--------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 182 60'S 70'S ROCK Ref: E3F00003Date: 03/09/97 From: JOHN WITTERSHEIM Time: 04:58am \/To: MICHAEL DOYLE (Read 0 times) Subj: YES & PINK FLOYD TRIBUTES Yeah where can I buy it, mail order company address? Let me know asap. John --- FLAME v1.1 * Origin: The Republic 908-679-2680 Old Bridge, N.J. (1:107/612) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 182 60'S 70'S ROCK Ref: E3F00004Date: 03/08/97 From: STEVEN VAN IMPE Time: 03:51am \/To: GEORGE ERDNER (Read 0 times) Subj: New Temporary Moderator Hello George. 03 Mar 97 00:01, George Erdner wrote to Steven Van Impe: SVI>> I am thinkin about making a text file with all sorts of ProgRock SVI>> bands, hyperlinked to other. GE> If you are going to do that, you should first change the definition of GE> Prog-Rock the echo is based on away from one that defines MUSIC and GE> instead one that defines ARTISTS. I've just posted my definition in which I do this, sorta. In short: Prog bands are bands that have certain aspects that are unbreakebly related to ProgRock (length, cover art, instruments, ...). If a band is found Prog, then all of its music is Prog. GE> Now, does that fact that only two compositions out of a band's catalog GE> of hundreds of works fit the definition fo Prog-Rock mean that those GE> two isolated works must be excluded by the Prog-Rock police? Does the GE> fact that Genesis has recorded a few songs that don't fit the GE> Prog-Rock definition mean that all their works that do fit should then GE> be excluded? This is also solved in my definition (this is getting scary): Non-Prog bands can make Prog songs. These songs must also have some Prog aspects (unusual instruments, strange music, deeper lyrics, ...). Of course, this definition can be stretched. And I definitely need more criteria. -/_-, Steven NP: ECHOES.MID - Pink Floyd (This is really the best .MID I ever heard) --- FMail/386 1.02 * Origin: Wish You Were Here... (2:292/867.5) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 182 60'S 70'S ROCK Ref: E3F00005Date: 03/09/97 From: MARLA ROMESBURG Time: 11:54pm \/To: KENNETH NEWMAN (Read 0 times) Subj: Re: Metal KN> For the publicly well-known Holdsworth you are probably KN> right. His stuff with UK and Gong, or his solo albums KN> like _Metal Fatigue_ really don't go beyond the Satriani KN> thang. Nor Steve Morse, for that matter. Steve Morse is now with Deep Purple. Ritchie Blackmore and Steve Morse are from 2 different molds...not like my opinion of Holdsworth and Satriani. You're last statement on this message is my EXACT opinion of Blackmore/Morse. And...I'd like to know if anyone's heard Blackmore's Rainbow's newest? What style is it? KN> but once you've KN> tasted real cheese it's hard to go back to Velveeta. --- Renegade v5-11 Exp * Origin: Baud Bandit * (412) 439-2487 * Uniontown, PA (1:2615/14) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 182 60'S 70'S ROCK Ref: E3G00000Date: 03/10/97 From: KENNETH NEWMAN Time: 07:34am \/To: VIK KAMBLI (Read 0 times) Subj: FLOYD AND YES! On 03-09-97 VIK KAMBLI wrote to GEORGE ERDNER... VK> Dark Side of the moon was one of the most progressive albums of all time. When it first came out it completly shocked the music comunity. All and all it spent over 450 weeks on the billboard charts for top 100 albums. Now if that isn't progressive I don't know what is! They weren't talking about whether or not the album was "progressive" as in making advances forward, they were talking about whether the album sounded like prog, a genre of music to which this echo is devoted (i.e. Genesis, Yes, ELP, King Crimson, Tull, Zappa, Gentle Giant, etc etc). _DSotM_ was clearly one of the greatest albums of all time, a milestone. As a mainstream pop/rock album it was unarguably very "progressive" as you say. But as a prog album, it wasn't really very proggy. Do you see what I'm saying? Cheers, Kenneth --- * OFFLINE 1.58 * I have a 9600bps modem and 1.5bps fingers --- FidoPCB v1.4 [ff238/x] * Origin: OnLine Now Thunder Bay ON, Canada (807)-345-1531 (1:229/510) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 182 60'S 70'S ROCK Ref: E3G00001Date: 03/10/97 From: CHRIS ROBBINS Time: 07:00pm \/To: GEORGE ERDNER (Read 0 times) Subj: New Temporary Moderator *** Quoting George Erdner to Steven Van Impe dated 03-03-97 *** > > Again, I have to submit that the Beach Boys songs "Good Vibrations" > and "Heroes and Villians" fit the definition of Prog-Rock, though none > of their other works do. Now, does that fact that only two compositions > out of a band's catalog of hundreds of works fit the definition fo > Prog-Rock mean that those two isolated works must be excluded by the > Prog-Rock police? Does the fact that Genesis has recorded a few songs > that don't fit the Prog-Rock defnition mean that all their works that > do > fit should then be excluded? [------------------------- End of Quote --------------------------] Huh? How is Good Vibrations prog rock? Good song, but I would not think of it as that... --- T.A.G. 2.7c Standard * Origin: The Chessplayer's Forum (1:2410/278) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 182 60'S 70'S ROCK Ref: E3G00002Date: 03/10/97 From: CHRIS ROBBINS Time: 07:04pm \/To: KURT J. TISCHER (Read 0 times) Subj: ProgRock definitions *** Quoting Kurt J. Tischer to Steven Van Impe dated 03-02-97 *** > SVI>- They all have a basic instrument set of Vocal, Guitar, Bass, > Drums and > SVI>Keyboard. > > They all have at least one song (or part of a song) that uses > an > odd time signature and usually this time signature has a numerator > which > is larger than the denominator (i.e. 5/4, 7/4, etc.). > [------------------------- End of Quote --------------------------] Hehehe...or several! Hmm...given these qualifiers...I can almost see death metal as progressive rock...or maybe it's a new sub-sub-genre: death-prog! That's it, where's the death prog echo... --- T.A.G. 2.7c Standard * Origin: The Chessplayer's Forum (1:2410/278) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 182 60'S 70'S ROCK Ref: E3G00003Date: 03/10/97 From: CHRIS ROBBINS Time: 07:07pm \/To: SARAH WEDEHASE (Read 0 times) Subj: Metal *** Quoting Sarah Wedehase to Pedro Sena dated 03-04-97 *** > -> -=***> Chris Robbins on the Metal <***=- > -> CR> Please, there is more to musicianship that playing it fast and > -> loud! CR> Satriani deserves all the credit he gets, and I don't even > -> see how you CR> can say he plays too "softly"...He has the feel and > -> songwriting CR> ability (as in he can actually write one) that not > -> many other CR> instrumental guitarists do... > > I agree with Chris! > > *!* QScan/PCB v1.17b / 01-0154 [------------------------- End of Quote --------------------------] Well, thank you very much, dear! Let's try to get things on topic a wee bit, tho...like any prog rock? --- T.A.G. 2.7c Standard * Origin: The Chessplayer's Forum (1:2410/278)