--------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 182 60'S 70'S ROCK Ref: E2T00007Date: 02/19/97 From: DAVID MARHEINE Time: 06:27pm \/To: KENNETH NEWMAN (Read 1 times) Subj: Gibraltar V7 #2B From: Bill Berends bberends@mosquito.com Subject: Mastermind Date: 11 January 1997 Greetings! 1996 was a good year for Mastermind and things are off to a good start in 97. Our new release UNTIL ETERNITY is gathering momentum worldwide and our first tour of Japan takes flight later this month. The 2nd album BRAINSTORM was re-mixed and released in Japan in October '96 and will be re-issued in Europe in the coming months. We are currently booking dates for our first ppearances in Europe for May and June and will have more domestic shows in the coming months ahead. We would like to thank everyone who has supported the band over the last decade; 1997 is our 10th Anniversary recording and performing as MASTERMIND and it looks like it will be the best year for us yet. For more info about MASTERMIND recordings and concerts: http://www.mosquito.com/~bberends/mastermind If you would like to be removed from this list or are receiving multiple copies, please send email and you will be accomodated. Thanks. All the best in '97! Bill Berends c/o MASTERMIND ========================================== Bill Berends bberends@mosquito.com http://www.mosquito.com/~bberends/ ========================================== Reply to this message in Gibraltar From: Acid Dragon Magazine Subject: New Issue Date: 8 February 1997 hello, new acid dragon issue out soon... Thanks for mentionning it in Gibraltar. All the best, ts IQ INTERVIEW PENDRAGON INTERVIEW MARGELICHT INTERVIEW DARK SUN INTERVIEW THINKING PLAGUE INTERVIEW 40 REVIEWS LETTERS TO THE EDITOR ... AND MORE ! Reply to this message in Gibraltar From: Jeroen wieldop@worldaccess.nl Subject: Odyssice Date: 27 January 1997 My name is Jeroen van der Wiel and I live in The Netherlands. I play eyboards in an instrumental symforock band called 'Odyssice'. We are about to release our first (mini) CD and just setup a website where people can read about us, hear bits of music from us and order the CD. I was wondering if you could print the following in your next news letter. >'Odyssice' is a Dutch Symphonic Rockband and just released their first CD. >The music can be compared with 'Camel', 'Rush', and 'Pink Floyd' and is >instrumental. If you would like to know more about this band and hear bits >from their new CD, check; http://www.worldaccess.nl/~wieldop/odyssice.html >This is something you don't want to miss! Thanks, Jeroen Rick Wakeman Fan Page http://www.worldaccess.nl/~rwfp rwfp@worldaccess.nl also check: http://www.worldaccess.nl/~wieldop/odyssice.html the progressive rockband I play in, you gonna love it... Reply to this message in Gibraltar From: Gary Davis artshop@artist-shop.com Subject: Synergy, Mike Pinder, Gongzilla and more Date: 20 January 1997 [This is actually a compilation of several messages dating from November through January....MT] Hello Friends: Lots of exciting news at The Artist Shop. First of all, we now have SSL Secure Transaction Processing! We're delighted to be able to offer you this new ordering alternative through which you can do secure credit card urchases from the website. I hope you'll check it out. Mike Pinder has finally emerged from his studio with the second installment n his series of children's stories, "A People with One Heart." This is a wonderful collection of stories told by the same voice responsible for most f the Moody Blues poetry tracks on their Core 7 albums. The music underneath these stories is absolutely wonderful and will transport you to another orld. Check out the soundbite for this in the Shop. The monster is back and this time he's tripping! Gongzilla returns with the brand new recording, "Thrive," an ambient swirl of jazz, rock and fusion. his album includes guitarist Bon Lozaga, bassist Hansford Rowe and mallet percussionist Benoit Moerlen from the first Gongzilla album teamed up with David Torn on guitar and loops and drummer Gary Husband from Allan Holdsworth's band. I tell you, this one sneaks up on you. Also new from oLo records guitarist Geno White's new album, "Standing in Stereo." You can hear soundbites from both in the Shop. Fans of Mike Keneally needn't be alarmed to find Mike missing from the New Label page. He hasn't left us. In fact, we've given him his own area of the store, so check out his new page. Here's some news that will be of interest to Synergy fans. As you know, arry Fast has regained the rights to his music and has re-released his first two albums, Electronic Realizations and Sequencer. He has been bombarded with requests from his die-hard fans regarding his other titles. Seems not veryone can wait for the re-release schedule. To accomodate those people who just cannot wait, Larry has decided to make a very special offer. All Synergy albums will eventually be re-released, but if you can't wait for that to happen, then go to http://www.artist-shop.com/newlabel/synergy.htm to check out Larry's special offer. The Artist Shop now has Mike Keneally's new video, Soap Scum Remover. This s a video of live performances with his band, Beer for Dolphins, shot at the Burbon Square in Van Nuys. These performances are not the same as are on his live CD, Half Alive in Hollywood (which, of course, we also have) and even includes some songs not found on the CD. You'll find both at http://www.artist-shop.com/immune. Mike recently finished an American tour with Steve Vai. I caught the show at the Odeon in Cleveland. It was great! Mike and Beer for Dolphins opened the show, then he joined Steve for his set. Word has it Mike only gets a very short break before heading back on the road with Steve, this time to Europe. As soon as I get those dates, I'll post hem on the bulletin board. A number of people have inquired about laserdisc versions for King Crimson's Live in Japan video and Yes' Keys to Ascension video. Presently these are only available as expensive Japanese imports which we can get. The King Crimson laserdisc is $74.99 and the Yes laserdisc (last years perfomance at SLO) is $134.99. The latter is about 150 minutes. As far as U.S. release, Discipline has only released the VHS version of the Crimson video and has no plans at this time to release a laserdisc in the U.S. It is my understanding that Keys to Ascension will get a U.S. release in laser disc format sometime this year, possibly spring or summer. We've got several new members in The Artist Shop and I couldn't be more excited to have these two aboard. A big welcome to Keith Emerson, Kitaro, Patrick O'Hearn and Peter Hammill!!! Keith Emerson from the early days of The Nice to ELP to film scores and solo albums has always been one of rocks greatest keyboardists. With special thanks to his manager, Will Alexander, you'll now find Keith and his hristmas Album on our New Label page. Kitaro comes to us by way of the independent Domo Records. Kitaro draws deeply on his ancestral roots in Japan for a music that is very spiritual. ot only is Domo releasing new Kitaro material, but are making their business to gather together his entire back catalog and remastering those albums with 20 bit digital processing. Before begining a very successful solo career, Patrick O'Hearn was a member f Frank Zappa's band as well as Group 87 (with Mark Isham) and Missing Persons (with other Zappa alumni). Patrick began his solo career on Private Music which, at the time, was a label owned by Peter Baumann, formerly of Tangerine Dream. I remember when I bought my first CD player I asked the owner of my favorite record store for some CD recommendations. I wanted not only good music, but a clarity that would really highlight what a CD player could do. One that he recommended highly was Patrick's first album, Ancient Dreams, a very good recommendation as it turned out. I don't think Peter Baumann is still associated with Private Music. Anyway Patrick began to feel that Private was neglecting his work. Eventually he started his own label, Deep Cave. His very first release on Deep Cave, Trust, earned him a Grammy nomination! You'll find Patrick on our New Label page http://www.artist-shop.com/newlabel. Much thanks to his label manager, Doreen D'Agostino for helping to make this happen. Peter Hammill started his music career in the band Van der Graaf Generator. This band has developed a very strong cult following as has Peter's solo ork. He has also appeared on albums by Robert Fripp (check out the track, hicago, on exposed...sheer ecstasy!) and Peter Gabriel. Gabriel included one of Hammill's tracks on the excellent Plus from Us collection and also on the earlier WOMAD collection, Rhythm and Music. Peter is a musician who does not feel at home in any one style and his diversity, although welcome to his legion of fans, is viewed as anathema by the corporate heads who strive to make us all one big homogenous consumer. Thank God he started his own label, Fie!, to make his music as he sees fit. Unfortunately Fie! Records have not been very easy to find, not even as imports. So that makes us all the appier that Peter is making his catalog available to The Artist Shop. That catalog also includes his fellow Van der Graaf band member, David Jackson. Be sure o check these out at http://www.artist-shop.com/fie. Gary ************************************************************** Gary Davis The Artist Shop The Other Road http://www.artist-shop.com OtherRoad@aol.com SUPPORT THE INDEPENDENT ARTIST!!! ************************************************************** Reply to this message in Gibraltar CHAT From: Peter Cole pcole@sseyod.demon.co.uk Subject: Eno's Music on the Web Date: 5 February 1997 Hi folks, Following on from Sandy's post about Brian Eno's diary in Gibraltar, I hought I should point those of you interested in his music to http://www.sseyo.com : the SSEYO Koan Music web site. For those of who don't know, on the site there are a number of free generative Koan Music pieces by Brian Eno, similar to those on his mould-breaking Generative Music 1 (published by SSEYO, and also available on the site); together with free software with which to play the pieces. Incidentally, for those who like to know these things, the picture on the cover of "A Year With Swollen Appendices" is the same as that on the box of "Generative Music 1" ! :) Have fun ! Pete P.S. For the record, I'm probably biased - I'm the technical director of SSEYO ! :) - ----------------------------------------------- Pete Cole pcole@sseyod.demon.co.uk Moderator of Door X, the David Torn mailing list - mail me for details ! http://ott-outreach.engin.umich.edu/torn/ - ----------------------------------------------- Reply to this message in Gibraltar From: Dave Anastasi daanasta@student.berklee.edu Subject: RE: King Crimson Video Date: 5 February 1997 I, too, have the "King Crimson: Live In Japan Video". I was surprised when I heard it because it is the same recording as it is on the CD "The Double Trio," which was released about a year before the video came out. It's a reat recording, one of the best live recordings that I have on CD. But the CD oes not include "Matte Kudasi," "Three Of A Perfect Pair," "People," and "THRAK". I also believe that there is a couple other songs that are on the Video, but not the CD. I definately recommend the CD AND the video. They are both really good. . . especially the extended drums at the beginning of "Indiscipline". -DAve Reply to this message in Gibraltar REVIEWS From: Alan J. Mallery ajmaller@ouray.cudenver.edu Subject: Mathematicians, Nuova Era Date: 15 November 1996 Mathematicians: Factor of Four =============================== Here's a band that sounded promising, after reading a review of their first album Irrational Numbers. This is their newest, and described as better. The group is a quartet of guitar, bass, keys, and drums, with guitar in the fore-front. On a couple songs they have a guest violinist to good effect. I guess you could describe their sound as guitar lead instrumental rock/fusion. Their main influence seems to be the Vai/Morse camp, with some Dregs thrown in. Well, after listening to the album a bunch of times, I came away disappointed. It took a few listens before I understood why. The musicianship isn't the problem, as all the musicians are competent on their instruments. The problem is, none of the compositions come away as being memorable. They are simply average, nothing to get excited about. The exceptions were the second track, which is basically a cover of Edgar inter's "Frankenstein," and the fifth track, which is a nice up-tempo rocker. If ore tunes had been like this, the album would be a lot better. For an example, take the third track. It's a predictable minor chord progression that epeats over and over as a vehicle for soloing. There is no development, or even melody to speak of. Another problem I have is with the production. Everything is recorded pretty dry, which makes it sound more like a demo in y opinion. Also the guitarist and keyboardist use pretty much the same tone a lot, which contributes to the bland sound. I think this band has some good chops and talent, so if they can take their song writing to a higher level, and use a little more creativity in the sound department, they should be a band to watch out for. Nuova Era: IL Passo Del Soldato =============================== To be honest, Nuova Era has been around a little while, and was one of the first bands I heard about in the "Indie Prog" world, but I have never bought any of their CDs. So this, their fourth album, is my first listen to them. Apparently their previous guitarist/vocalist has left the band, so the music is now primarily keys/bass/drums with a new vocalist, and the keyboardist brother(?) to write lyrics. With this format, obviously the keys are going to be the standout. Walter Pini rings a lot of mileage out of that dirty/percussive Hammond organ sound, ala "Tarkus." In addition there are a lot of monophonic analog sounds used. The bass and drums are merely competent, and don't stand out in any way. I was surprised by the vocalist though, he has a strong and clear voice, almost as good as Alberto Piras (of Deus Ex Machina). Musically, the organ and synths lead the way, so this has a mostly '70s sound, fitting in with some of the heavy Italian groups of that decade. It's not as crazy as some groups, like DeM, but not "neo-prog" either. Most songs have a couple vocal choruses, then stretch out into long instrumental excursions, with organ as the basis. Some odd-time, but more of the time somewhat basic chord progressions that are the vehicle for crazy Emerson-like synth playing. In total, this isn't a ground-breaking album by any means, but I found it to be very pleasant. If you like keyboard-lead prog, or the heavy Italian 70's sound, this album would probably be to your liking. ============================================== Alan Mallery/aka: ajmaller@ouray.cudenver.edu\aka2: Emerson@aol.com ============================================== Reply to this message in Gibraltar ... Pull any finger to continue ... --- * Origin: *YOPS ]I[* 3.1 GIG * RA/FD/FE RADist * Milwaukee, WI (1:154/750) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 182 60'S 70'S ROCK Ref: E2T00008Date: 02/19/97 From: DAVID MARHEINE Time: 06:29pm \/To: KENNETH NEWMAN (Read 1 times) Subj: Gibraltar V7 #2C From: Henry Schneider henry@iapc.net Subject: Musea Label and Various Indie Bands Date: 2 February 1997 Thistle: Thistle (1996; Ventricle CD-7) 44m ======================================= What a pleasant surprise I had the other day when I found this treasure in my mail box! Thistle is the latest release of mysterious-cosmic-eerie female vocal-electronic music from Ventricle. Up until now this small private lable has only released Dusty Lee's projects of Mauve Sideshow and Torn Curtain. Ventricle is growing and Thistle represents the first non-Dusty release. Like Mauve Sideshow and Torn Curtain, Thistle is a duo (Kelly on instruments and effects and Danielle on vocals). There the similarity stops. Rather than the trippy recitatives and mellotron of the other two bands, Thistle explores the analog electronic realms of deep space. Their debut CD seems like one long composition, the nine songs flowing seemlessly from "Circle Star" to "Remember." Kelly paints his usical canvas with exquisite drones and electronic watercolor washes highlighted by Danielle's heavily processed and mystical "little girl" voice. This is great music and at nearly 44 minutes, it is just too short! Another departure for Ventricle with this release is the accompanying artwork. The album cover contains a Photoshop altered photo of a young woman (Danielle?) with a tatooed shoulder and swathed in branches. The photo is framed by an organic whispy material that gives it an appearance similar to a Nettwerk release. The booklet contains other photos of her as well as one enigmatic portrait of Kelly (?) staring at you with half of his face covered by hair and the other half by a tiny gold chain spider web attached at his eyebrows, nostrils, and lips. Strange and gothic images to accompany the music. Thistle and the other Ventricle artists are in a class of their own. Space music and experimental music officiandos will enjoy Thistle. You probably won't find it at your local Tower Records so contact Ventricle directly and support the independents! Mandra Gora Lightshow Society Ovid's Garden (Swamp Room Records LC 4149) ================================================ The Mandra Gora Lightshow Society is a contemporary German neo-psych band and their debut (?) release Ovid's Garden is a limited vinyl edition of 750 copies on Swamp Room Records from Germany and 250 copies on Delerium from the UK. However there is a noticeable lack of band and album release information in the sleeve. Since the Mandra Gora Lightshow Society recorded the title track in April 1994 at Hannover's Cafe Glocksee, I surmise the album release was 1995 or 1996. The conglomeration of trippy nonsensical lyrics, organ, piano, xylophone, electric and acoustic guitars, gongs, drums, percussion, didgeridoo, and vocal arrangements contributes to over 45 minutes of modern psych/Krautrock music which has more than a passing resemblance to Amon Duul II. Side one contains a song about a one-eyed cat, another complaining about today's boring music and mentioning some underground bands (Metabolismus and The Cosmic Gardeners), and two mind expanding songs. The second side ontains the side-long title track which is a mixture of cacophonous psychedelic weirdness alternating with some heavy organ riffs. As the song develops, the band leaves the trippy sounds behind and kicks in with heavy bass lines, Hammond organ chops, and even some vocal recitation. This is a killer cut to close out a surprising album. Ovid's Garden will be hard to find, but well worth the effort if you are successful. Highly recommended. Shylock: Ile de Fievre (1978; Musea FGBG 4177.AR) 48m ================================================= Recording their second album in 1978, Ile de fievre, Shylock finished their musical career with a tour de force. The six tracks from the original LP are a collection of superbly crafted symphonic rock combining influences from ick Wakeman, Genesis, Gentle Giant, King Crimson, Zappa, and Heldon. Musea also included a seventh bonus track recorded a year after the album just as the band was breaking up. This track, "Le dernier," does not have the sonic clarity of the rest of the album and Shylock's performance is subdued in comparison. As usual, Musea provides extensive liner notes covering hylock's history from Gialorgues to the band split in 1979. An excellent release that closes out the chapter on one of France's finest bands of the seventies. Cliffhanger: Not To Be or Not To Be (1996; Musea FGBG 4213.AR) 73m =============================================== Not to Be or Not to Be is Cliffhanger's second release and Musea's promotional material raves about this band. However I find the music to be derivative of Genesis-era Lamb/Wind and Wuthering. There are occasional moments of interest but Rinie Huigen's nasal voice can be annoying as he ries to emulate Peter Gabriel. Cliffhanger does shine during its instrumental breaks with Sewers and Ragnarok featuring some excellent musicianship. The final song, "Moon," is a quiet four minute instrumental, yet on the CD it is 16:30. At the end of Moon there are 12 minutes of silence followed by 2 minutes of music that is more experimental and interesting than anything else on this CD. It's one of those "Easter Eggs" you occasionally find on a CD. Cliffhanger is a band to watch. The extra two minutes of music and some scattered other moments demonstrate that this a band that could successfully develop a style all their own. Gerard: The Pendulum (1996; Musea FGBG 4195.AR) 39m =============================================== Gerard, a Japanese band led by keyboardist Toshio Egawa, has been recording since 1984 and The Pendulum is their fifth album. Gerard has gone through a number of changes since 1984 and the present line-up consists of Egawa, Atshushi Hasegawa on bass, Masuhiro Goto (famous Japanese heavy metal rummer) on drums, and Robin Suchy (Canadian rhythm 'n blues singer) on vocals. Empty Lie, Empty Dream" opens the album with the sound of clocks chiming and immediately segues into powerful and energetic keyboard dominated music that continues throughout the remaining 39 minutes. Egawa's heroic compositions and masterful keyboard orchestrations complemented by Suchy's Meatloaf-like vocals will make you want to stand tall and raise your fist in the air. To augment the listening experience Musea included an extensive band history, discography, lyrics, and an exquisite full color cover art reproduction picture CD. The Pendulum is virtuoso prog rock and, to my ears, the best rog release of 1996! HIGHLY RECOMMENDED! XII Alfonso: The Lost Frontier (1996; Musea FGBG 4183.AR) 71m ================================================= XII Alfonso is a new French band whose debut release The Lost Frontier is a concept album about Hadrian's Wall. Similar to Musea's other Celtic inspired band Kadwaladyr, XII Alfonso weaves a cinematic tapestry of ambient sounds nd contemporary, Celtic, and medieval themes. Mostly instrumental, the music is relaxing and perfectly played at times reminding me of Anthony Phillips. Unfortunately XII Alfonso chose to include three vocal tracks by Caroline Lafue that detracts from the music. Her voice does not have the depth necessary to deliver the lyrics and she occasionally slurs words. That minor gripe aside, The Lost Frontier is the perfect companion to snuggle up with in a blanket and a good book. Or you can close your eyes, let your mind rift with the music, and conjure your own "documentary" images of Hadrian's Wall. Volkor: VOLKOR (1976/1981; Musea FGBG 4197.AR) 69m ============================================== This new Musea CD is a reissue of both Didier and Francis Lockwood's first releases: Jazz Rock and Debbi. Due to the loss of the master tapes, Musea had to resort to recording the CD directly from vinyl and tidying the sound p to remove the pops and scratches. The result is a crisp clean sound. In addition, due to contractual problems, Musea released this CD under the name Volkor, a track from Jazz Rock. Falling somewhere between Return to Forever, Zao, and Magma the music on Volkor is an excellent audio document of the French jazz-rock scene of the late seventies. Listening to this music today, Didier's electric violin and Francis' keyboard chops are as fresh as ever. Sustained tempos, rapid rhythms, and frantic solos abound throughout Volkor's 69 minutes. Volkor is the best reissue of the 1996 and one release not to be missed by aficionados of the genre. HIGHLY RECOMMENDED! Luc Marianni's Seltae Beat Up and Down (1996; Musea FGBG 4185.AR) 60m ==================================================== Musea seems to be releasing a number of concept albums lately. Up and Down, their latest and Luc Marianni's sixth album, is a bit unusual in that it is exactly 60 minutes long. Up and Down is a science fiction story set in the year 2160 when man is forced to draw all his energy from the sea in order to survive. The thin plot (how much can you achieve with 60 minutes of music?) lies somewhere between Waterworld, The Abyss, and Mad Max. However the music does not exactly give you the same impression. What Marianni produced is one hour of very pleasant and melodic rock ballads that for some reason reminded of both Al Stewart and Pink Floyd's Dark Side of the Moon. There is nothing adventurous or innovative about this music and neither are there any experimental synth sounds. An interesting aside is that the CD booklet contains the lyrics printed in English, German, Japanese, and French even though Caroline Crozat sings them in English. So if you are looking for some expertly played melodic rock that tells a story, this is the release for you. Brainstorm: Smile a While (1972; Musea FGBG 4215.AR) 63m ==================================================== German guys in foundations and girdles??? This is one of those albums that will immediately catch your eye as you browse the CD racks. Not being aware of this band or album I was skeptical of their music after noticing the fetching figures cut by the band dressed in lingerie. Was Brainstorm a trend setting band that set the stage for glam rock? Probably not. Instead they were one of Germany's best progressive bands from the early seventies playing a complex and harmonically rich jazz-rock music like that produced by Moving Gelatine Plates, Soft Machine, and Caravan. Brainstorm's music is characterized by Ronald Schaeffer's killer distorted sax solos, Rainer Bodensohn's flute, and Eddy van Overheidt's organ and funky wailing. Definitely not toe tapping music and not a good idea to play if you are under a lot of stress or your kids are running around the house yelling. This is high brow energetic music that demands your full attention. Fortunately for us, along with the original Smile A While recorded in 1972, Musea also included three bonus tracks originally recorded for SWF radio in 1971. Overall another excellent reissue from Musea's vaults. Jacky Maestracci: Symphonia (1996; Musea FGBG 8402.AR) 40m ====================================================== Jacky Maestracci is a new French multi-instrumentalist with a penchant for middle of the road New Age keyboards on his debut solo album Symphonia. Nothing exciting happens on this disk, no keyboard pyrotechnics, no adventuresome orchestrations, just well executed symphonic New Age music that I find a bit boring. And there is a certain sameness that pervades hroughout the nine tracks. Not exactly a CD to write home about. There may be those f you that will lap this music up, but it didn't do it for me. Bertrand Loreau: Sur Le Chemin... (1996; Musea AM 8400.AR) 64m ========================================================== Bertrand Loreau's third album Sur Le Chemin... is the first to appear on Musea's new sub-label Amplitude, an outlet for what Musea calls electronic modern music. Loreau creates pretty dreamlike melodies powered by percussive sequences that are fairly derivative of recent Tangerine Dream efforts. Like Maestracci's Symphonia, nothing of interest happens on this disc. Sur Le Chemin... is your standard New Age fare. If you like subdued background melodies this may be the disc for you. Since I prefer my music on the edge, Sur Le Chemin ... did not pass the muster for me. The Smell of Incense: Why Did I Get So High?/If Not This Time/Coming Down (September Gurls Records SGs 17) 7in. 2:12/3:20/4:00 ========================================================================= Here we have the new single from The Smell of Incense. While these three songs pay homage to sixties psychedelic music, it doesn't have the magic of their debut CD All Mimsy Were the Borogroves. "Why Did I Get So High" is a bit intriguing with its harpsichord ostinato and "Coming Down" does have its moments with strange synth sounds. But I don't feel compelled to sing along as I do with their other singles "I'm Allergic to Flowers," "The Smell of Incense," or "A Visit with Ashiya." This single does not represent what they can achieve. If you want an introduction to this group seek out their CD or other singles. This single is only for the completist. Truth in Advertisement: Balance (1996; Virtue Music vmcd 9601) 58m ============================================================== Balance is the debut solo effort of Truth in Advertisement a.k.a. Mark Reynolds, an accomplished progressive rock and jazz drummer living in Seattle. In addition to drums Mark also sings and plays keyboards, synths, and tapes. Though drums do not stand out above the music, they do dominate each of the 10 songs which is novel with today's music. Mark is an excellent drummer and his music is surprisingly good with just the right blend of jazz and progressive rock. His use of quirky sound bites peppered throughout the disc reminds me of Bill Nelson. In the promotional material Mark states that Balance expresses the ideals of striving for the Perfect Life and that he arranged the songs to emulate the dynamics of daily living. I don't know if I would go that far, but the music does flow nicely from song to song and I find the final song "Ponderances on Things Above" to be he best song on the disc. The water sounds and Gina Scollard's voice are just the right elements to accompany Mark's keyboards and drums. Balance is a noteworthy debut effort by an independent artist. Jonathan Block: After (1996; Ironing Board Recordings IBR 2-9603) C-60 Either (1996; Ironing Board Recordings IBR 4-9611) C-60 ================================================================== Imagine that you're taking an afternoon nap and are trying to wake up after a short but deep sleep. You are semi-aware (background voices, sounds, etc.) but you can't make your body move. Every time you rally you slip back. Somehow Jonathan Block has captured this experience on his new tape. ethargic electronics wash over your ears and brain as you progress from "After," "Burrow In, Burrow Out," through to "Inevitable." After is consummate relaxation music. Unfortunately I was unaware of its effects and made the mistake of previewing After while driving to work. Jonathan's hypnotic electronics were so relaxing that I had to rely on auto-pilot to arrive in ne piece. Jonathan should have included a disclaimer cautioning you about listening to this music while operating a motor vehicle or heavy machinery. Jonathan's other new tape Either is much more upbeat than After. Either consists of three songs: "Ping," "Engine Room," and "Eardrum." Propelled by pentatonic sequences popularized by mid-period Tangerine Dream, Jonathan crafts an hour of excellent electronic music. Moving, swirling, and constantly changing chords and sequences makes for an enjoyable listening experience. Help support this independent musician. Unit 13: Tranceponder (1996; no label info) C-60 =========================================== Tranceponder is the new cassette release by the Pennsylvanian synthesist Unit 13 a.k.a. Chris Cooper. Over the years Chris has released quite a umber of solo cassettes and Tranceponder appears to be his best yet. The song titles conjure up images of space travel: "Van Allen Probe," "Levity," " Meteor Beat," "Entry/Departure," "Stargate," "Phase Reaction," "Hyakutake," "Landing Co-Ordinance," "Class-M," "Trajectory Sequence," "Decoder," "Gaelic Expedition," "Sub Quadrant," and "Hale-Bopp." Chris, a long time fan of Tangerine Dream and Chrome, composes and plays superbly crafted electronic soundscapes that can compete with contemporary artists of this genre: Helios Creed, Harvey Bainbridge, Moonloonies, and Mandragora. Unlike Chris' other musical project Arttek, there are no background found sound/cartoon ecordings on Tranceponder. However, underneath the electronics of "Hale-Bopp" Chris has a female voice counting and reciting numbers in Spanish. If you hunger for more cosmic electronic music that Tangerine Dream and Klaus Schulze no longer deliver, Tranceponder is for you. HIGHLY RECOMMENDED. Reply to this message in Gibraltar ... Pull any finger to continue ... --- * Origin: *YOPS ]I[* 3.1 GIG * RA/FD/FE RADist * Milwaukee, WI (1:154/750) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 182 60'S 70'S ROCK Ref: E2T00009Date: 02/19/97 From: DAVID MARHEINE Time: 06:31pm \/To: KENNETH NEWMAN (Read 1 times) Subj: Gibraltar V7 #2D From: Brown, Ken BROWNKJ@imsint.com Subject: Porcupine Tree - Signify Date: 4 November 1996 Bornlivedie 1:41 Signify 3:26 Sleep of No Dreaming 5:24 Pagan 1:34 Waiting (Phase 1) 4:24 Waiting (Phase 2) 6:15 Sever 5:30 Idiot Prayer 7:37 Every Home is Wired 5:08 Intermediate Jesus 7:29 "Light Mass Prayers" 4:28 Dark Matter 8:57 Well it is here in America finally, the new CD from Porcupine Tree. The American versions and the British have the same track listings. I say that because last year's The Sky Moves Sideways the two versions had slightly different tracks. Ok for those still living under a rock, Ptree is the brain child of Steve Wilson, one of the most promising song writers in music today. He has two groups and it seems unclear which came first: No-Man with Tim Bowness vocals) and Ben Coleman (violin), which is a dance-oriented band; or Ptree, Steve's one man prog-psych-rock band. There were two tapes (Tarquin's Seaweed Farm nd Nostalgia Factory) which led to Ptree first CD On the Sunday of Life. The remaining tracks from the two tapes were later released in a limited edition CD called Yellow Hedgerow Dreamscapes. While the first CD had it short comings (many styles and lousy drum machines) one could see the glimmer of things to come. That arrived with Up the Downstair a stunning work, of rich imagination and playing. Then came The Sky Moves Sideways an instant classic. (Please don't tell me that it sounded like Pink Floyd, take the time and really listen to it, it is a record Floyd wish they could make). The best CD from last year and also the start of Ptree as a band. Up until this point Mr. Wilson had played everything, but in order to play live he needed other musicians. He brought on Richard Barbieri on keys (ex-Japan), Chris Maitland on percussion and Colin Edwin on bass. While the band is credited for playing on some of the tracks, it still basically Mr. Wilson's show. The band played ton of dates and became very tight. I say this because the new CD reflects . I believe that the new CD shows the differences between the one man gig and a full band. While Mr. Wilson's bass and drum machine parts were adequate, with the addition of a bass player and drummer his music comes alive more. I am sure that Mr. Wilson brings finished demos to the studio, much like Pete Townshend did for the Who. Pick up either Scoop CD by Mr. Townshend and one can hear how complete songs were when brought to the band. The band then dded the Who stamp to them. I feel that Mr. Wilson has this same vision of his music in his head and with a band he can achieve that goal. So what does the new CD sound like, well it doesn't sound like The Sky Moves.. volume 2. The CD isn't as mellow as that CD was, nor is it the hard driving metal prog that many of today's "prog" bands play. The CD starts as all Ptree cds start with mellow, almost ambient beginnings with some sample dialog bits, its then moves into "Signify" an almost "Red" sounding rocker. Immediately, one can hear what the rest of the band brings to the Ptree ound. Because not only did Mr. Wilson form band but he found incredible musicians o play with him. The next track "Sleep of No Dreaming" is an exceptional track (Well to be honest all the tracks are) Mr. Wilson use the slow/fast flow to most of songs and he makes it work all the time. The theme of the CD seems to be about life and how difficult it is. (Lyric study is not my strong suit) ut again in the way that Mr. Townshend spoke for a generation of boys who had trouble coping with growing up, so Mr. Wilson seems to be his generations voice. (Well at least with this CD.) This song is killer and one of the few that could easily win radio audiences over. Next "Pagan" is an ambient piece that leads into what has to be the single of the year "Waiting." Most bands would die to write just one song that comes close to this. It is the same old as "Stars Die" but about half way through kicks into a rocker with some fantastic wah-wah playing. Have I failed to mention that Mr.Wilson is one of the great guitarist of our time? Again the lyrics seem to be pointing to the desolation of growing up. "Waiting Phase 2" is another instrumental, eaturing a great drum solo by Mr. Maitland that kicks it into gear. Next is "Sever" whose beginning reminds me of "Tomorrow Never Knows." Again another great ong for the radio. Mr. Wilson never fails to amaze me in that the notes always seem to fit a song. "Idiot Prayer" is an ambient/techno piece that Mr. ilson does to great effect. What sounds like some 'tron is there for the progheads. It's another piece that ebbs and flows through out. The only piece that features drum samples. These are the pieces that help link No-Man to Ptree. Lots of dance rhythms and taped voice samples. "Every Home is Wired" is the ninth track and starts of with acoustic guitar, the song tells of the age of every one being wired into the world 'net. It could end up being the theme song for the 'net generation. "Intermediate Jesus" seems to be a jam song as all four members are credited. Techno/jazz/prog might be the best way to describe it. Again featuring some great playing by Mr. Wilson. "Light Mass Prayers" is the only track that Mr. Wilson didn't write, Mr. Maitland wrote and performed the majority of the track. Its an ambient piece that puts you right in the mood for the closer "Dark Matter," one of those epics songs that close out LPs. Its closest comparison is probably "It Will Rain For a Million Years" from the first CD. It again is amazing song. The vocals are ncredible, the playing fantastic. It doesn't get much better then this. The song seems o deal with Mr. Wilson becoming a star, something this CD should help him become!!!! Overall this is an excellent CD, especially when listened to as a whole. some of the shorter pieces ("Bornlivedie" or "Pagan") would suffer out of context but fit in beautifully to the whole CD. This is a masterpiece, one that could put prog back on the map. It is a must have as was "The Sky Moves Sideways." It is not often one gets to see a band that will change the way rock is listened to, but Ptree is such a band!!! Keep the Faith (in the Music) Ken Brown Reply to this message in Gibraltar From: Mike Taylor gepr@plato.museum.tulane.edu Subject: Somnambulist, Musea Label releases, Lefty's Head Date: 9 February 1997 Somnambulist: Somnambulist (1996; The Laser's Edge LE 1027) 56m =========================================================== Totally insane and with attitude! Those were the only words that came easily for this album. The music on Somnambulist is too varied to be pigeon-holed and too unique for comparisons. The only predictable aspect of this album is that any mellow passage is going to get heavy at one point or another. In their own way, Somnambulist are as relentless as Anekdoten. And speaking of the Swedish greats, "Conqueror Worm" could easily have come from the nekdoten playbook, with layers of mellotron, thumping bass lines, rattling drum fills, and guitar leads with a gothic air. The schizophrenic "Pinocchio" opens with a piano and guitar passage that could have come from any '70s Dutch/Euro-prog album. But the madman awakens, splitting the personality between traditional" prog and total insanity. The resolution of conflict (for the moment) comes as a brief keyboard solo that will make Rick Wakeman churn out weekly new-age albums named after the shags in his carpet. Wait until Somnambulist get crankin' in the second half of "Globos Formas Para Manana." If you've been lucky enough to hear the cassette-only release by Atavism of Twilight, you'll immediately recognize the similarity to the distinctive, arpeggiated riff rom "Glorified Form." A variation on the theme recurs in "Multum In Parvo" before going into a classical passage of acoustic guitar and harpsichord. The theme then returns with some barrelhouse piano and freaky guitar. omnambulist can and do venture off in any direction at the drop of a hat. You never know when the hat is going to drop, and you never know which way the compass is pointing. Yet, Somnambulist is cohesive, inventive, aggressive, adventurous and 100% recommended. Tale Cue: Voices Beyond My Curtain (1991; Musea FGBG 4030.AR) 63m ============================================================= Although I had heard several good things about Tale Cue, I was dissatisfied with Voices Beyond My Curtain, ultimately an album of neo-progressive rock, albeit rather good for the style. The album features six songs between 7-15 minutes in length. This five piece band consists of Laura Basla (vocals), Davide Vicchione (bass), Giovanni Porpora (keyboards), Filippo Oggioni drums) and Silvio Masanotti (guitar). The album opens up with the 15 minute "The Knell." After a brief classical guitar statement, the album moves squarely into Twelfth Night/IQ territory where it remains for the entire album. The electric guitar that swirls between the speakers is not unlike the main uitar riff of Twelfth Night's "East To West" from Live at the Target, and the overall flow is similar to "Sequences," also from Live at the Target. In fact, Masanotti's style throughout the album often reminded me of Twelfth Night's guitarist, Andy Revell. To Tale Cue's credit, they create a very good atmosphere, dark and somber, that pervades Voices. The enigmatic lyrics, and Basla's mid-register voice, fit well with the mood. To Tale Cue's discredit, did little, if anything, to distinguish it from the many other neo-prog bands that have already done this bit. The musical writing is not overly complex and usually predictable. For example, at only seven minutes, "Craven Smiles" seems to go on way too long and the "climactic" guitar and keyboard solos happen right on cue. In the end, Tale Cue are basically welfth Night with a female vocalist. Tale Cue is very good neo-prog but only verage when considered against the prog scene as a whole. No doubt, fans of Tewlfth Night, IQ and so forth will find much to enjoy when listening to Tale Cue. Shub-Niggurath: C'etaient De Tres Grands Vents (1991; Musea FGBG 4042.AR) 45m ==================================================== Dark, spacious and often disturbing are the three best adjectives to describe Shub Niggurth's C'etaient De Tres Grands Vents CD released by Musea. The phrase "Shub-Niggurath" comes from the writings of one of the masters of the horror genre, H.P. Lovecraft. The music on C'etaient... would fit very well as a soundtrack for many of Lovecraft's stories. Instrumentation consists of bass (Alain Ballaud), electric guitar, piano, harmonium (Jean-Luc Herve), drums (either Michel Kervinio or Edward Perraud, both on "Promethee"), bass trombones (Veronique Verdier), and occasional voice (Sylvette Claudet). Analogy is perhaps the best way to describe Shub-Niggurath's music. Imagine a mix of Present or early Univers Zero with Henry Cow improvisations, playing while on downers. C'etaient opens with the seven minute "Glaciations." The song consists of quiet, icy emanations broken by occasional fissues of frenzied drums, bass and guitar. "Ocean" is four minutes of meandering trombone improvisation and distorted guitar, followed by one minute of ntense zeuhlish improvisation that calls to mind Happy Family, then a long fade into nothing. "Promethee" is a clear vocal line sung against crashing, discordant guitar chords. The vocals are eventually replaced with meandering bass, much like the trombone of "Ocean." Herve just bangs out distorted guitar chords or the entire five minutes. I think you are beginning to get the picture. ecause the instrumentation and improvisation is used sparse, the music is very spacious, often almost ambient in nature, perhaps as a result of influences from some avant-garde classical composers such as Penderecki. Yet, the atmosphere is always very tense, and songs don't always have detectable direction or musically resolved ending. Shub-Niggurath do not play music for casual listening and generally only for the experimentally-minded and those predisposed toward the avant-garde. Ilous & Decuyper: Ilous & Decuyper (1971; Musea FGBG 4173.AR) 45m ===================================================== Bernard Ilous (vocals, guitars, keyboards) and Patrice Decuyper (vocals, acoustic guitar) are a folk/rock duo who recorded just this one album of 13 songs. Musea's CD reissue includes two bonus tracks from a second single comprised of songs not on the LP. Ilous & Decuyper is a surprisingly strong album of experimental folk/rock/prog. Ilous and Decuyper shared common interests in the Beatles as well as folk and country rock artists like Bob Dylan, Joni Mitchell, and Crosby Stills Nash and Young. The duo also shared a common desire to fully exploit the 16-track studio to their fullest extent, s well as push their own musical limits. In fact, Ilous and Decuyper took one year to record this album, quite a long time for that era. Because of their love of vocal harmonies, the two spent a great deal of time arranging and recording subtle voicing and instrumental details, as well as layering harmonized voices one on top of the other. To achieve the sound they envisioned, they played most of the instruments themselves, often processing them in various ways to achieve new timbres. Occasionally, they drew help rom some friends. On their only cover song, a very nice rendition of the Beatles' "Eleanor Rigby," Jean-Pierre Alarcen (future Sandrose guitarist) provides a fantastic guitar solo. Alarcen also appears in a duet with Ilous on "L'espoir," the B-side of the second single. Here, Ilous played a guitar solo run through a Leslie cabinet draped with felt to achieve a very distinctive tone. But, the vocal harmonies are the real attraction of this album. Ilous, the main lyric writer, chose the French lyrics based on their sound, not heir meaning. (Recalls Jon Anderson, no?) With attention to engineering and production details, Ilous and Decuyper created harmonies of striking beauty and subtle detail. Unique as a "folk/prog" album in 1971, the album is still very fresh today. Lefty's Head: Changing Time (1996; Povis Records) 33m ================================================= Lefty's Head is Kevin Kmetz (guitar), Jim Foster (drums) and Tracy Miller (bass, vocals). Changing Time wastes hardly a moment of it's all-too-short 3 minutes. Packing nine songs into that time, Changing Time offers an upbeat et musical variety. Their style touches down in many areas but the strongest influence seems to come from a jazz and fusion base. Comparisons? The first thing that came to mind was Bruford (the band) without keyboards. Perhaps aal without the zeuhl influences. UZED with emotion? Ultimately, I think I ettled on Xaal for the best comparison. They even have guest trumpet on a song or two. You have three talented musicians (Kmetz has been featured in Guitar Player magazine) with great instrumental rapport playing a complex, jazzy fusion, and drawing from such diverse musical sources as funk, blues, classical and folk. Other than the short length of the album, the only other drawback I could find was the vocals. Of course, I've never been a fan of vocals, anyway, so it's easy for me to find a flaw in that department. In his case, the soft vocal style was somewhat discordant with the music. Miller's voice reminded me of Eric Johnson on his early records, when it seems like he's singing because it's expected but he'd much rather be playing. Only two of the songs have vocals, though, so my complaint is mostly insignificant. ou can hear too much good instrumental playing to worry about a few minor ocals. Recommended. -- Mike Taylor You can visit the Lefty's Head Home Page at http://leftyshead.simplenet.com. Reply to this message in Gibraltar Remember to say you heard about it in Gibraltar! Archives FTP ftp.museum.tulane.edu in /gib_issues WWW http://www.museum.tulane.edu/pub/gibraltar/gibraltar.html Progressive Rock Home Page at http://prog.ari.net/prog/ FAQ Files Frequently Asked Questions About Progressive Rock Gibraltar Encyclopedia of Progressive Rock Additional Good Reading Expose': 6167 Jarvis Ave.,#150, Newark, CA 94560 USA Expose' is an excellent newsletter (60+ pages) focusing on the world of progressive rock. Each issue contains a large number of reviews, including roundtable opinions, features, interviews, and more. $18 for a four-issue subscription in the USA. Elsewhere, inquire for rates. E-mail: ptlk@netcom.com. ... Pull any finger to continue ... --- * Origin: *YOPS ]I[* 3.1 GIG * RA/FD/FE RADist * Milwaukee, WI (1:154/750) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 182 60'S 70'S ROCK Ref: E2T00010Date: 02/19/97 From: DAVID MARHEINE Time: 10:20pm \/To: KENNETH NEWMAN (Read 1 times) Subj: Your Wise Men Don't Know How It Feels --- Sez Kenneth Newman to David Marheine --- KN> On 01-30-97 DAVID MARHEINE wrote to KENNETH NEWMAN... DM> Thanks for the kind words about _War Child_ a while back, too. DM> Seems to be a better album than I remember... KN> That's right, it sounds better now than it did then. I'm KN> finding lots of albums like that these days. Some that KN> sound worse, too. Got any examples of the latter? The Three Dog Night albums I had in junior high didn't sound as brilliant after hearing the original versions of the Traffic, Free, Randy Newman, etc. songs they contained, but after dumping them in college, I later reacquired them at rummage sales, so I guess they sound good enough to allow nostalgia to overcome the embarrassment. I know I don't like ELP's _Pictures At An Exhibition_ as much as when it first came out, but I like it more than I did 15 years ago... I played it before taking the kids to see an orchestral version last year, and found that it didn't make me cringe the way it used to. Not a paragon of subtlety, that album, but I guess that's part of the appeal. Then, after twenty-whatever years I finally heard another Rick Wakeman album besides _Six Wives_. Had to buy it first, natch, but it's better than I'd feared. Neither excessive choral vocals nor obtrusive applause/crowd noise, but bombastic and overblown without getting completely ridiculous. Hey, and wossname from Wild Turkey's on there too, connecting the Yes and Tull family trees! Which makes a second path connecting Strawbs and Fairport. (Besides Sandy Denny, there's Strawbs to Wakeman to Pickford-Hopkins to Glenn Cornick to Ian Anderson to Dave Pegg & Mattacks!) Almost forgot, it's his second, _Journey To The Center Of THe Earth_. I also bought a Joy Of Cooking LP several weeks ago which sounds better than it probably ought to... But since neither it nor the Robbs' mid 60's LP on Mercury are Prog, I won't mention them, even though _The Robbs_ cost ten times more than the Joy Of Cooking. DM> Also got my own copy of _TAAB_ finally, primarily for the St. Cleve DM> Chronicle, but the vinyl's in better than average condition as well. KN> I have two 8 track copies, one with the St.Cleve cover KN> and one without. They sound surprisingly similar, though. What's on the cover of the other one? Kenny Rogers' Greatest Hits? Dave ... Okay, I'm weird! But I'm saving up to become eccentric.... --- * Origin: *YOPS ]I[* 3.1 GIG * RA/FD/FE RADist * Milwaukee, WI (1:154/750) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 182 60'S 70'S ROCK Ref: E2T00011Date: 02/19/97 From: DAVID MARHEINE Time: 09:32pm \/To: KENNETH NEWMAN (Read 1 times) Subj: Re: Brecht/Weill --- Sez Kenneth Newman to George Erdner --- GE> I'd like to hear any modern band GE> handle something as off the wall as Bertolt Brecht's "The Alabama GE> Song". Well, the Cure did a decent cover of "Hello I Love You"... KN> Speaking of Brecht/Weill.... KN> Check out the Art Bears doing Bertolt Brecht's "On KN> Suicide" which captures it perfectly. Only don't listen KN> when you're in a low mood. Or at least have some Leonard Cohen handy to cheer up with. KN> For that matter, Steeleye Span did a really good version KN> of "The Black Freighter." That's my favorite "accordian era" Span song by far... You'd probably enjoy a CD by The Sextet of Orchestra USA, _Theatre Music Of Kurt Weill_. Recorded in 64 & 65, tracks include Alabama Song, Havanna Song, As You Make Your Bed, (those three featuring Eric Dolphy and John Lewis as well as Mike Zwerin, Richard Davis and Connie Kay) plus Barbara Song and two takes each of Mack The Knife, Bilbao Song and Pirate Jenny which feature Davis and Kay on bass and drums, and arranger/conductor Zwerin on bass trumpet, plus Thad Jones on cornet, but not Dolphy, who had died in Berlin in '64... DM ... Double-check the redundancy generator, will you? --- * Origin: *YOPS ]I[* 3.1 GIG * RA/FD/FE RADist * Milwaukee, WI (1:154/750) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 182 60'S 70'S ROCK Ref: E2T00012Date: 02/19/97 From: DAVID MARHEINE Time: 10:17pm \/To: DAVE CLIFTON (Read 1 times) Subj: Spooky Tooth --- Sez E. Don Duck to Dave Clifton --- > I'm looking for an album by SpookyTooth, but I don't know the name of the > album... I just know what it looks like, so if you can help me, I'd > appreciate it. > It has a reddish cover background, with a man nailed to a cross. > The album came out before '75, and MAY not still be in print. > This inquery is for sentimental purposes, so please respond... Well, the album they did with Pierre Henry has an illustration of a guy nailing a hand to another guy's head, not a cross, but the background is a dark reddish brown, so maybe that's th one you're thinking of. _Ceremony_ is the title, and it's an "electronic mass", i.e. primitive synth twiddles overlaid over Spooky Tooth's heavy plod. I kinda like it. Their discography seems to be: It's All About (68) Spooky Two (69) Ceremony (70) The Last Puff (70) Tobacco Road (71) Witness (73) EDD> You Broke My Heart, So I Busted Your Jaw! (73) Mirror (74) I vaguely recall an album cover showing a guy on a cross perhaps called _I Can See Your House From Here_. If such a thing exists, it might be a Camel. Maybe not. Whatever. Hope this helps. DM ... I hate to advocate drugs or alcohol but they've always worked for me! --- * Origin: *YOPS ]I[* 3.1 GIG * RA/FD/FE RADist * Milwaukee, WI (1:154/750) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 182 60'S 70'S ROCK Ref: E2T00013Date: 02/13/97 From: PEDRO SENA Time: 01:24pm \/To: CHARLES WEBBER (Read 1 times) Subj: Spooky Tooth -=***> Charles Webber on the Black Sabbath <***=- CW> Did Gary Wright play in Spooky Tooth? Yes, he did. He created the group, I understand. Their history is actually rather interesting. There was a movie, called GROUPIES, and Spooky Tooth was one of its main features... notorious stuff.... ... gong___you are I, I am you, you am I, I am you... --- Blue Wave/DOS v2.20 * Origin: Oregon Trails BBS *503*655-4645* (1:105/208) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 182 60'S 70'S ROCK Ref: E2T00014Date: 02/13/97 From: PEDRO SENA Time: 01:27pm \/To: JOHN WITTERSHEIM (Read 1 times) Subj: Re: KRAUTROC \ -=***> John Wittersheim on the KRAUTROC \ <***=- -> You totally skipped Krautrock: Amon Duul, Ash Ra Tempel, Faust, Cosmi -> Couriers, Can, etc.. Echolyn? Man? Gong? JW> OOPS!!! And I'm a Kraut too,I should be sent to the gas chamber.I have JW> Amon Duul,Can,and Faust. I did mention Ramses,they are excellent JW> Progressive German rockers. Geee, I have all these and much more... ... freleng___that piglet will get his this time... --- Blue Wave/DOS v2.20 * Origin: Oregon Trails BBS *503*655-4645* (1:105/208)