--------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 182 60'S 70'S ROCK Ref: E1X00004Date: 01/27/97 From: MICHAEL DOYLE Time: 01:29pm \/To: ALL (Read 1 times) Subj: Doug Waters/Metal discuss DW> [ReGaRDiNG]: Metal DW> --[ Reply if You Want, I Don't Mind ]-- DW>-------=======] You stated the following... [=======-------- DW>> or "I could never really get into deep purple". This is at least the 2nd DW>> person you write to calling their musical tastes crap and garbage. Prett DW>> soon your limited musical tastes will start to offend people. DW>> DW>-------=======] And my response is.... [=======-------- DW>good...i want a good arugment...they can deal with it.. DW>Doug Waters Where the hell is our moderator(s)? Is this still the progressive rock echo? --- OLX 2.1 TD Eat right, exercise, DIE ANYWAY. * Origin: Power Windows! is Win95 & MIDI! 205-881-8619 (1:373/27) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 182 60'S 70'S ROCK Ref: E1X00005Date: 01/27/97 From: MICHAEL DOYLE Time: 05:45pm \/To: SCOTT RHODES (Read 1 times) Subj: Scott's back! SR>.MSGID: 1:3641/224 0005dfcc SR> DW> i will only listen to stuff that started metal...no led zeppellin, no SR> DW> doors, none of that crap...led zeppellin started butt rock...robert SR> DW> plant started glam ..just look at the poser....the new wave of ritish SR> DW> heavy metal is good to listen to..saint vitus, black sabbath, judas SR> DW> priest, ac/dc, and iron maiden are good old bands to get into SR> DW> ...anything else old just plain sux..case closed.. SR>None of this has anything to do with Progressive Rock, therefore nothing you SR>are discussing is on topic. Please take this discussion to netmail or to SR>another echo. SR>Scott D. Rhodes SR>Moderator, 60S_70S_PROGROCK You're back! The moderator's here! Praise the . -.\\. --- OLX 2.1 TD The paranoids are out to get me! * Origin: Power Windows! is Win95 & MIDI! 205-881-8619 (1:373/27) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 182 60'S 70'S ROCK Ref: E1X00006Date: 01/27/97 From: STEVE SCHWARZ Time: 04:03pm \/To: BILL DOBIESZ (Read 1 times) Subj: la;sdjkf -=> For a good time, call Bill Dobiesz, data at (203) 263-5922 BD> Ever listen to the music of J.P. Sousa? I have every piece. Semper Fidelis is a personal favorite. I'd ask you if you've ever listened to Joplin, but this is not the appropriate message ea. .- Stephen Michael Schwarz The RoadHouse Blues BBS (203) 263-5922 - 1:141/1244 --- Ketchup v1.5 * Origin: -=The RoadHouse Rock (203) 263-5922=- (1:141/1244) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 182 60'S 70'S ROCK Ref: E1X00007Date: 01/26/97 From: KENNETH NEWMAN Time: 10:52am \/To: SCOTT RHODES (Read 1 times) Subj: Bands On 01-20-97 SCOTT RHODES wrote to JASON HOWARD JR.... SR> The only Kiss album which comes anywhere close to being SR> Progressive Rock would be _The Elder_, and even that would SR> be a bit of a stretch. I believe Paul Stanley is on record as saying it sounds like "a really bad Genesis album." Cheers, Kenneth --- * OFFLINE 1.58 * I am in total control, but don't tell my wife. --- FidoPCB v1.4 [ff238/x] * Origin: OnLine Now Thunder Bay ON, Canada (807)-345-1531 (1:229/510) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 182 60'S 70'S ROCK Ref: E1Y00000Date: 01/28/97 From: JOSH RYMAN Time: 10:10am \/To: IAN FITCH (Read 1 times) Subj: Re: King Crimson! -- This was in a message from Ian Fitch to Josh Ryman -- IF> You must get 'In the Court of the Crimson King' - it's great! IF> especially 20th century schizoid man. Starless and bible black IF> is a bit much for me I'm afraid, charming though it is. Hmm...groovy. I seem to find 'Court' grabbing my attention as is, so I think I'll pick it up. And yeah, 'Starless and Bible Black' is a little on the very unusual side, but it's still good to me. --- * Origin: We're having Post FUN!! in KC at 816-942-5641 (1:280/103) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 182 60'S 70'S ROCK Ref: E1Y00001Date: 01/24/97 From: SCOTT RHODES Time: 02:45am \/To: DOUG WATERS (Read 1 times) Subj: Metal DW> -------=======] You stated the following... [=======-------- > or "I could never really get into deep purple". This is at least the 2nd > person you write to calling their musical tastes crap and garbage. retty > soon your limited musical tastes will start to offend people. > DW> -------=======] And my response is.... [=======-------- DW> good...i want a good arugment...they can deal with it.. You're still posting a ton of off-topic messages. Stop it now. Scott D. Rhodes Moderator, 60S_70S_PROGROCK ... - ___ Blue Wave/QWK v2.12 OS/2 --- PCBoard (R) v15.22/M 2 * Origin: R&B Skeletons In The Closet 919-286-4542 (1:3641/224) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 182 60'S 70'S ROCK Ref: E1Y00002Date: 01/27/97 From: JOHN WITTERSHEIM Time: 01:05pm \/To: SCOTT RHODES (Read 1 times) Subj: Bands -> -> KISS may rule, but they still aren't on topic. Please do not -> -> discuss them in this echo. -> -> -> -> Scott D. Rhodes -> -> Moderator, 60S_70S_PROGROCK -> -> -> -> JHJ> kiss is on topic dude. this is 60's and 70's rock right. Well ki -> JHJ> formed and played music in the years 1973-present day. So they -> are -> JHJ> definetly on topic. -> -> -> Excuse me, but don't you find it a little presumptuous to be telling -> the moderator of an echo what is and isn't on topic? Do you really -> think I don't know the topic of my own echo? -> -> And in any case, this is *not* an echo for *all* rock from the 60's -> and 70's. The official name of the echo, as noted above, is -> 60S_70S_PROGROCK. This is short for "60's and 70's Progressive -> Rock". Progressive Rock is a particular style of rock involving -> heavy influences from classical music, use of odd time signatures, -> and song structure which heavily strays from the standard "Tin Pan -> Alley" format of verse-chorus-verse-chorus-solo-choru Some of the -> more well-known examples include early Genesis (back w Gabriel was -> in the band); Emerson, Lake, and Palmer; and King Cri only Kiss -> album which comes anywhere close to being Progressive Ro be _The -> Elder_, and even that would be a bit of a stretch. -> It may be that your sysop has mistakenly used the name "60's & 70's -> Rock" or something similar to describe this echo on his BBS. There -> is, unfortunately, nothing I can do to control this. If this is the -> case, your original confusion is understandable, and I would -> appreciate it if you would ask your sysop to change the name to -> "Progressive Rock" or something similar to avoid similar confusion -> in the future. -> In any case, Kiss *is* off topic, so please do not discuss them any -> more here. -> -> Scott D. Rhodes -> Moderator, 60S_70S_PROGROCK -> -> -> -> ... Click...click...click...damn. Out of taglines. -> ___ Blue Wave/QWK v2.12 OS/2 -> -> --- PCBoard (R) v15.22/M 2 -> * Origin: R&B Skeletons In The Closet 919-286-4542 (1:3641/224) PLEASE NO MORE OFF TOPIC posting of this kind!!! --- WILDMAIL!/WC v4.12 * Origin: Fresh Start BBS * Edison NJ * (908) 248-1678 * (1:107/310.0) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 182 60'S 70'S ROCK Ref: E1Y00003Date: 01/27/97 From: JOHN WITTERSHEIM Time: 12:56pm \/To: DOUG WATERS (Read 1 times) Subj: Black Sabbath -> [ReGaRDiNG]: Black Sabbath -> --[ Reply if You Want, I Don't Mind ]-- -> -> -------=======] You stated the following... [=======-------- -> > I completely agree with you on this statement. If it wern't for sa -> > there would probably be no heavy metal. That means no metalica or -> mega death -> > ect. Sabbath Bloddy Sabbath is without a doubt one of the biggest -> albums of -> > all time. -> > -> -------=======] And my response is.... [=======-------- -> -> darn right.....i think sabbath started things getting heavier etc...b -> also think that there were many bands along the way that created the -> metal scene we have now....celtic frost, hellhammer, etc were the fat -> death metal...bathory started up black metal...sabbath and then -> later on saint vitus and cathedral started doom metal....but long -> live heavy metal...it will never die...its just weeding out all the -> falses and posers at the moment... -> -> Doug Waters -> -> A Message From The City of Thought -> -> the city of thought -> Sysop: The Unbeliever 904.645.8850 The adventure -> awaits you -> -> --- VFIDO 7.00.00 -> * Origin: ****** the city of thought 904.645.8850 ****** (1:112/124) The Band Black Sabbath are not PROGRESSIVE ROCK but are Heavy Metal,stay with the SUBJECT of this forum. --- WILDMAIL!/WC v4.12 * Origin: Fresh Start BBS * Edison NJ * (908) 248-1678 * (1:107/310.0) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 182 60'S 70'S ROCK Ref: E1Y00004Date: 01/27/97 From: JOHN WITTERSHEIM Time: 01:04pm \/To: KENNETH NEWMAN (Read 1 times) Subj: new purchases -> On 01-20-97 FRANK SWARBRICK wrote to ALL... -> -> FS> FM -- _Black Noise_: This album reminds me quite a bit of UK's -> FS> _Danger Money_. Some good prog, but maybe a little too much pop -> in -> FS> it. I like it, especially the instrumentals and the 10 minute t -> FS> track, but I was hoping for a little more "prog." Still, it's pr -> FS> good. Dunno if I'd get more of there stuff, even if I could find -> -> They have another album called _Surveillance_ which is -> very similar in both quality and style with exactly the -> same good and bad points as _Black Noise_. None of their -> other albums are worth listening to tho IMO, certainly not -> proggy. I think the UK comparison is very valid, BTW. -> -> Cheers, -> Kenneth -> --- -> * OFFLINE 1.58 * Hey Rocky - watch me pull a sysop outta my hat! -> --- FidoPCB v1.4 [ff238/x] -> * Origin: OnLine Now Thunder Bay ON, Canada (807)-345-1531 -> (1:229/510) If you think The Canadian band FM was not Prog,than I suggest you do a little closer listening,for FM was one of the BEST progressive bands EVER!!! Some people who post here DONT KNOW WHAT THE TWO WORDS "Progressive Rock" really mean,read the Progressive Rock History post I have on here. And get with REAL-CLASSIC-PROG!!! --- WILDMAIL!/WC v4.12 * Origin: Fresh Start BBS * Edison NJ * (908) 248-1678 * (1:107/310.0) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 182 60'S 70'S ROCK Ref: E1Y00005Date: 01/27/97 From: JOHN WITTERSHEIM Time: 12:54pm \/To: ALL (Read 1 times) Subj: Progressive Rock HISTORY Over twenty years ago, pioneering bands in Britain and, eventually, every developed country in the world, evolved rock from a simple music form valuing base emotions and attitude, to an elaborate form able to incorporate involved compositional structures and sophisticated melodic, rhythmic, and harmonic elements. Classical, Jazz, folk, and electronic music elements were integrated; musicianship and instrumental ability were emphasized. This genre came to be known as "progressive rock or art-rock". By the end of the 1970's, these bands had written themselves out of the market by making music over the head of the average pop listener (not to mention the rock media). Progressive rock has to two prerequistes: intelligence and musical sophistication - commodities not highly valued in the rock industry. This is not music for clueless kids desperate to be in on the latest popular band. Progressive music is dedicated to those who still champion the old-fashioned ideals of beauty, lyricism, and grandeur in art. Progressive artists know how to marry the cerebral and the visceral, infusing the energy that defines rock with music that does not insult the intellect. Progressive artists know that emotion is still the raison d'etre of music. However, these are not the emotions of frustrated teenagers or disturbed art-school students. These are the much more diverse and subtle emotions that can only be evoked by those versed in the craft of music. Progressive does not mean simply new or different. The word is meaningless without stating the goal one is progressing toward. I hope that goal is now clear. After years of enduring a music industry pretending that rock never grew up, I believe there are many more ready to take the leap from rock-as-fashion to rock-as-high art. It's only PROGRESSIVE ROCK N' ROLL, and we LOVE it! --- WILDMAIL!/WC v4.12 * Origin: Fresh Start BBS * Edison NJ * (908) 248-1678 * (1:107/310.0)