--------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 182 60'S 70'S ROCK Ref: DEX00000Date: 10/24/96 From: BOB DUNN Time: 04:23pm \/To: GARY SMITH (Read 2 times) Subj: Renaissance GS> Good afternoon! GS> I tried to start a thread about Spirit some weeks back...with no success. GS> Everyone either has forgotten them or didn't know of them at all. GS> well, here's attempt #2: anyone want to talk about Renaissance? I have GS>three of their albums. Do you have "Turn of a Friendly Card"? Bob * OLXWin 1.00b * It's starting to rain, .SQZ the animals into the .ARC * LAKOTA v1.5 --- Alexi/Mail 2.02b (#33) * Origin: * Glass Onion * Ansonia CT * USA * (203) 732-5746 * (1:141/1295) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 182 60'S 70'S ROCK Ref: DEX00001Date: 10/27/96 From: GARY SMITH Time: 10:32am \/To: STUART DUBOIS (Read 2 times) Subj: the radio show Stuart: Just thought I'd give you a report on the Taylor-Smith radio duet. Now, despite what Pedro Sena CLAIMS, OURS was definitely a show to be reckoned with!!!! heh heh Two solid hours of fine music. My only complaint is that the time flew by. Well, come to think of it, I do have one other minor complaint: Mike started off the last half-hour with this unbelievable piece of crip Oops...I meant to say "unbelievable piece of CRAP" by some group called Kultivator. Man, oh man...and everything up until then was really good! For example, we started the last hour with a piece by Passport, which reminded Mike of a song by Kraan, which reminded me of a song by Spirit. And the whole show was like that...back and forth, he'd choose, I'd choose. I REALLY liked the song by Ozric Tentacles, and there was a good one by Gentle Giant, too. And Mike enjoyed my Passport and Jade Warrior selections. Even got a couple of phone calls approving of the Passport tune ("Abracadabra"). Tom Waits gave a nice twist to the otherwise smooth course, and Gryphon provided a somewhat folky-rocky surprise. I'll tell you: it was just a very nice two hours. Mike and I yacked during songs and talked about the groups we were playing and all. He turned out to be a knowledgeable gentleman. AND....I got a return invitation! Oh, by the way, I was kidding about Kultivator being crap. I really did like that song! Honest. Mike suggested that I call it crap just to get a reaction from you. heh heh He also said he'd post the play list, so you can see just exactly what we played. I'm sure you'll recognize the other selections, as well. So when are YOU coming to do the show? Gary Now playing: "The Gardens of Babylon" by Jean-Luc Ponty --- Maximus 3.01 * Origin: Orion's Sword-Bush,LA-(504)867-9701-V.* (1:3828/1) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 182 60'S 70'S ROCK Ref: DEX00002Date: 10/27/96 From: JOSH RYMAN Time: 12:12pm \/To: BILL HARRIS (Read 2 times) Subj: Re: SILLY QUESTION...? -- This was in a message from Bill Harris to Josh Ryman -- BH> hehehehehehee.......OK, I'll take you up on it. First off, BH> Union(or Onion, as BH> I sometimes call it) is not as good as it could have been. Agreed. I admit, I'm a closet Union fan. Most of it, anyway. I pretty much like the first half "I Would Have Waited Forever" - "Without Hope..." ("Saving My Heart" does not count), but the second half isn't very memorable, though I kind of like "Dangerous". The album defintely could have been a lot better, though. BH> "Around The BH> Would In Eighty Days" that was outstanding. I also saw them live BH> as well on BH> the Onion tour and they did some killer versions of some Onion BH> songs. But If I'd have been obsessed with Yes five years ago, I probably would have gone to one of the shows. I can only hope they'll come my way again. BH> songs. But BH> overall I think Union is a good Yes album, although not a great BH> one. Better than _Tormato_ or not? :) And when is the new album supposed to arrive on the scene? --- * Origin: We're having Post FUN!! in KC at 816-942-5641 (1:280/103) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 182 60'S 70'S ROCK Ref: DEX00003Date: 10/27/96 From: JOSH RYMAN Time: 12:18pm \/To: BILL HARRIS (Read 2 times) Subj: Re: Genesis -- This was in a message from Bill Harris to Josh Ryman -- BH> God only knows what Jon is going on about. It's one of those BH> things he loves BH> to sing about. I've heard other songs from his solo stuff where BH> he sings about BH> "the song of the age" and so forth. It's kind of like his BH> fascination with the BH> sun. Sit down and count up all of his references to the sun. It's BH> rather BH> humorous to me, but it's one of the reason I like him so much. Yes just oozes mysticism...suns, eagles, ages, and assorted other neat stuff. Did you ever notice the thing about moments and movements? _Close to the Edge_ has numerous references to moments and movements, and the phenomemon bleeds over into _Relayer_! But, like they have said, it's not as important that the words themselves be understood, but that the *word sounds* be heard. That's a wonderful system to use... BH> I've never BH> really considered the Moraz element in "Arriving UFO". THe next BH> time I have it Well, it doesn't sound like much Wakeman material. It's much more frantic and loopy, like Moraz. Just a thought. --- * Origin: We're having Post FUN!! in KC at 816-942-5641 (1:280/103) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 182 60'S 70'S ROCK Ref: DEY00000Date: 10/27/96 From: BILL HARRIS Time: 10:21pm \/To: JIM DORSCH (Read 2 times) Subj: Re: Bill Frisell On 26 Oct 96 07:08:08, Jim Dorsch said the following to Bill Harris: JD> Bill, I've been curious about Frisell. Any way you can describe him or comp JD> him to other artists? I'm also curious about Derek Bailey. JD> JD> Jim Since I'm new to him, it's hard to describe. He's one hell of a guitar layer. Terrific tone. His music is all over the place. Touches of jazz, movie music, blues and Zappa in an instramental setting. He uses a bassist and a drummer and occaisionally, horns. The Zappa influence is the most prominant. He also writes beautiful melodies. I'm not familiar with Mr. Bailey. Regards, Bill --- GEcho 1.00 * Origin: Hawkmoon's Realm * Youngsville, NC * (919)556-4678 (1:151/131) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 182 60'S 70'S ROCK Ref: DEY00001Date: 10/27/96 From: FRANK SWARBRICK Time: 06:43pm \/To: PAUL CHARBONNEAU (Read 2 times) Subj: Recent Aquisitions On 10-26-96 13:59, shipwrecked and comatose, Paul Charbonneau said: PC> Here are some quick thoughts on recent stuff that I heard: PC> Il Berlione - both PC> Not as good as I thought, based on strong expectations. Don't care PC> much for the sax playing but very original and full of energy. Has PC> that urban-schizo quality that you find in Happy Family but shows a PC> bit more melodic work. I can't imagine you finding this disappointing. The first album is utterly brilliant. Especially the guitar heavy "Make You Die, Your Brain" and the sax heavy "Kouenji, Memories In The Rain" (along with it's blistering guitar solo). This is one album that I loved upon first listen, and have yet to tire of. The second album I found quite disappointing upon my first few listens, but I've grown to like it quite well. Jazzier, while the first is bluesier. Anyway... Frank now playing: "Anything She Does" --Genesis ... Let them eat static! ___ Blue Wave/QWK v2.12 --- WILDMAIL!/WC v4.12 * Origin: The Bailey Info Exchange BBS, 28.8k 303.914.3646 (1:104/825.0) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 182 60'S 70'S ROCK Ref: DEY00002Date: 10/28/96 From: MARTIN RIDGLEY Time: 07:09am \/To: CLARK RAY (Read 2 times) Subj: Brand X / Percy Jones =-> Quoting Clark Ray to Martin Ridgley: CR> There was another Brand X CD released in late '95 or maybe early CR> this year. I can't remember what it's called and I don't have it, CR> but it was released. Mr. Goodsall told me himself at one of his CR> gigs in L.A. :-) Cool. I'll go looking for that one! So, how was the show? I haven't seen Brand X `live' since about 1978 or 1979! ;-( CR> And, there was _Brand X The Plot Things - A History of Brand X_, which CR> is just a compilation. Yeah, I think I'll pass on that one, because the only other album I don't have is _Product_. MR> Percy Jones ... one of my all time favourite bass players. CR> Well, there's _Marscape_, which is by Robin Lumley and Jack Lancaster. CR> Jones plays bass on it and Collins plays drums. I highly recommend CR> this album. Ah yes. Great album! I forgot to mention it but I've got that one. CR> And, I just ordered _Peter The Wolf_ performed by members of Brand X. CR> I'll let you know what it's like when I get it. Yeah, please do. CR> Also, Brian Eno's "Music For Films" is supposed to have Jones on it. Okay. A friend of mine has that one so I'll check it out, too. CR> Then there's some band called the Intergalactic Touring Band which CR> had all kinds of people you'd recognize like Anthony Phillips, Annie CR> Haslam, Rod Argent, Dave Cousins, Meatloaf, members of Staus Quo, and CR> others. Hmmm... there's another one I haven't heard of. Sounds intriguing. CR> From the Genesis Discography from alt.music.genesis: CR> Hex -- Jones had a band called Hex, which has never released an album, CR> They did do gigs, and played mostly tunes from Cape Catastrophe.... Yes. I heard about them from a friend who saw them in New York City. CR> That's all I can think of, but I'm sure I'm missing something. Well, there's a few there to add to my list That'll keep me busy for a while. Thanks a lot for the info, Clark! :-) Cheers, Martin ~~~~~~~~ --- Blue Wave/386 v2.30 [NR] * Origin: The Eclectic Lab (1:153/831) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 182 60'S 70'S ROCK Ref: DEY00003Date: 10/28/96 From: MARTIN RIDGLEY Time: 10:51am \/To: CLARK RAY (Read 2 times) Subj: Genesis =-> Quoting Clark Ray to Martin Ridgley: =-> re: _Voyage of the Acolyte_..... CR> It's Hackett's first solo album. About half of it is very very good, CR> but the other half rather annoys me. _Please Don't Touch_ is more to CR> my liking. I may have heard _Voyage of the Acolyte_ way back when, because I had a friend who was really into Steve Hackett, etc., but I don't recall it. I've only got _Please Don't Touch_, and _Spectral Mornings_. MR> I've also got all the Genesis albums from 1969 to 1980, but after MR> _Duke_ the group did nothing for me. CR> I like parts of every Genesis album after _Duke_, but _Duke_ is the CR> last one that I liked all the way through. Still, "Dodo/Lurker" from CR> _Abacab_ is a favorite of mine as is "Second Home By The Sea" from CR> _Genesis_. I'll have to give _Abacab_ another listen sometime. A couple of people here have mentioned it. CR> ...and "Do The Neurotic" and "Feeding The Fire" from the _Invisible CR> Touch_ sessions are good but were released only as B-sides. Hmmmm.... well, I don't think I'll be able to get my hands on those any time soon so I'll have to take your word for it, Clark! ;-) CR> NP: "Julia" -- The Beatles CR> (god, this is gorgeous) Yes, I agree! It's got to be one of the most beautiful songs John ever wrote! Cheers, Martin ~~~~~~~~ --- Blue Wave/386 v2.30 [NR] * Origin: The Eclectic Lab (1:153/831) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 182 60'S 70'S ROCK Ref: DEY00004Date: 10/28/96 From: MARTIN RIDGLEY Time: 10:52am \/To: CLARK RAY (Read 2 times) Subj: Survival of PROG =-> Quoting Clark Ray to Martin Ridgley: MR> ...Brand X's 1992 release called, _X Communication_. This album MR> could either be referred to as `Prog Rock' or `Jazz/Rock fusion'. CR> Or even avant garde and psych. _Xcommunication_ is a very complex CR> album (more so than any other Brand X album), but it's extremely CR> exciting. More complex than any of their others? I don't know. I'm certainly not at that level of musicianship, so it's hard for me to tell. ;-) It *is* very complex music though, and yes, it's definitely exciting! MR> Bela Fleck & the Flecktones are ... as much a fusion band as Brand X MR> and Mr. Holdsworth. I'd have to say that the Flecktones could also be MR> considered very progressive, although there's little if any `rock' MR> influence there. CR> ...I agree. I like the Flecktones very much, and I absolutely hated CR> banjo and harmonica in music before I heard them. They forever CR> changed my attitude. Probably as they have done with many people. I know a number of other people who never would have listened to anything with a banjo in it until they heard The Flecktones - and now they're rabid fans of Bela Fleck! MR> one of my favourite mid-70s Prog bands, Ambrosia. But Jellyfish are MR> definitely more pop-oriented. `Prog-Pop', I guess you'd call it!? CR> Bands like Supertramp, Kayak, Alan Parsons Project, Depeche Mode, mid CR> 70s ELO, and others like that are Prog Pop, or at least that's how I CR> describe them, and their music is in no way inferior to Prog Rock; CR> it's just another genre of Prog. CR> Then there's bands like Tool, Soundgarden, and Alice In Chains, who CR> all show aspects of Prog, but fit more in the alterna-metal category. CR> There's no denying the Prog influences, though. Yup. That's essentially what I was saying to Michael. Prog, like so many other musical genres has simply branched out in numerous different directions. Jazz artists, bluegrass players, and pop/rock bands, may all get influenced by Prog and take it in new directions based on their various tastes and other outside influences. So while `Prog', as played by the pioneering bands in the genre may not seem to be as prevalent as it once was, it certainly isn't dead. It's just taken on a wider scope with all these diverse influences and it may be a little harder to search out. Cheers, Martin ~~~~~~~~ --- Blue Wave/386 v2.30 [NR] * Origin: The Eclectic Lab (1:153/831) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 182 60'S 70'S ROCK Ref: DEY00005Date: 10/28/96 From: MARTIN RIDGLEY Time: 11:47am \/To: CLARK RAY (Read 2 times) Subj: Re: King Crimson =-> Mike Taylor said: MT> Actually, the band is named after a character in a Stephen King novel. =-> Martin Ridgley replied: MR> Are you sure? I thought it was the other way around. =-> Quoting Clark Ray to Martin Ridgley re: the above.... CR> Mike Taylor's having a bit of fun with you. Well, I think most people would have put a `smiley' or a after a statement like that, don't you? If that was the case and Mike was simply having a bit of fun with someone, he should make some sort of indication to that effect. It doesn't matter how many of the regulars might have picked up on it. It's simply bad `netiquette' not to do so for the benefit of the other participants and lurkers here. Anyway, thanks for the explanation, Clark. Cheers, Martin ~~~~~~~~ --- Blue Wave/386 v2.30 [NR] * Origin: The Eclectic Lab (1:153/831)