--------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 115 RUSH LIMBAUGH Ref: F2K00030 Date: 02/13/98 From: MIKE ANGWIN Time: 09:20pm \/To: ALL (Read 0 times) Subj: Tobacco Settlement Has anyone raised objections to the pending settlements with the tobacco industry? It has just occured to me this is a ground breaking act that may prove to be the sort of history making event that we will all live to regret. Consider, for a moment, what we are talking about here. Government is selling our right to just compensation and civil litigation. Your spouse and mine, our children, if by some chance we should die or be disabled due to the effects of tobacco, will be foreever denied the fundamental right of taking a tobacco company to court, despite whatever evidence and strength of a case we may have, and receiving just compensation. Once this door is opened what will follow? Will airlines, pharmacutical compaines, who knows who be lining up in Washington and the state capitols seeking to buy immunity from civil liabilities from politicians desperate for cash to fund their pet programs? I haven't seen this question raised by anyone and it has always been my belief that the right of each citizen to seek compensation for harm done him by anyone to be one of the most fundamental rights we have. This appears to be heavy stuff! /\/\ike --- RBBSMail/386 v0.997 * Origin: (713) 664-0002 Lightspeed Systems - 24hrs (1:106/7.0) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 115 RUSH LIMBAUGH Ref: F2K00031 Date: 02/14/98 From: ROBERT PLETT Time: 08:34am \/To: MIKE ANGWIN (Read 0 times) Subj: Tobacco Settlement On 02-13-98, MIKE ANGWIN declared to ALL: MA> Has anyone raised objections to the pending settlements with the MA>tobacco industry? Yup. I'm surprised you missed it. MA>It has just occured to me this is a ground breaking MA>act that may prove to be the sort of history making event that we will MA>all live to regret. Yes, it is. It is an absolutely heinous precedent. MA> Consider, for a moment, what we are talking about here. MA>Government is selling our right to just compensation and civil MA>litigation. Your spouse and mine, our children, if by some chance we MA>should die or be disabled due to the effects of tobacco, will be MA>foreever denied the fundamental right of taking a tobacco company to MA>court, despite whatever evidence and strength of a case we may have, MA>and receiving just compensation. I have a problem with the idea of suing tobacco companies in the first place. Whatever happened to personal responsibility? MA> Once this door is opened what will follow? Will airlines, MA>pharmacutical compaines, who knows who be lining up in Washington and MA>the state capitols seeking to buy immunity from civil liabilities from MA>politicians desperate for cash to fund their pet programs? How about the possibility of say, the beef industry, being subjected to the same extortion as the tobacco companies under the pretense of paying for health problems caused by it? How about the same thing being applied to manufacturers of walkmans and other sound systems that damage hearing because of their capability of being turned up too loud? How about milk products that give problems to the lactose intolerant? Or maybe all restaurants that serve cheeseburgers and fries. Almost anything could be subjected to such extortion which is what makes the precedent such a dangerous one. MA> I haven't seen this question raised by anyone and it has always MA>been my belief that the right of each citizen to seek compensation for MA>harm done him by anyone to be one of the most fundamental rights we MA>have. This appears to be heavy stuff! It's heavy stuff all right, but IMO, for different reasons. Bob /\-/\ - proud Ilk homebody@galstar.com C.A.T. ( o o ) Chapter Ilks == ^ == Green Country - Oklahoma http://www.galstar.com/~homebody/ * SLMR 2.1a * Getting old is not for sissies. * Origin: Shadow of The Cat (1:170/1701.10) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 115 RUSH LIMBAUGH Ref: F2K00032 Date: 02/14/98 From: ROBERT PLETT Time: 08:12am \/To: GAYLEN HINTZ (Read 0 times) Subj: Yet another Bimbo On 02-12-98, GAYLEN HINTZ declared to ROBERT PLETT: GH> RHI> Mr. Plett. I have found that one cannot have a balanced GH> RHI> conversation with Rush's Dittoheads. GH> RP> If it's reasonable conversation you want, waltzing in here GH> RP> with insults directed at Rush, his listeners, and those who GH> RP> frequent this forum isn't the way to get it. When you behave GH> RP> like a boor, expect to be treated accordingly. GH> Uh... Robert.. you can hand him back his head anytime now.. I'm GH>getting tired of his fluids spattering my monitor and I just ran out GH>of Windex. :) Incredible, isn't it? He complains when he's taken to task in the International FANS of Rush Limbaugh Conference for insulting Rush and everybody who listens to the show, and then says he can't get balanced conversation when he's yet to post anything of substance! Sheesh! Bob /\-/\ - proud Ilk homebody@galstar.com C.A.T. ( o o ) Chapter Ilks == ^ == Green Country - Oklahoma http://www.galstar.com/~homebody/ * SLMR 2.1a * Rush taught conservatives how to have fun being right. * Origin: Shadow of The Cat (1:170/1701.10) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 115 RUSH LIMBAUGH Ref: F2K00033 Date: 02/14/98 From: ROBERT PLETT Time: 08:28am \/To: DAVID HARTUNG (Read 0 times) Subj: Re: Libertarian Party On 02-13-98, DAVID HARTUNG declared to MIKE ANGWIN: DH> There is much good to be said about privatizing the education system, DH> the only reservation I have is that there are some kids whose parents DH> caouldn't afford to pay for an education, how would we(or would we, for DH> that matter) ensure these kids access to to an education? Plenty of kids' parents can't afford to pay for a college or university education either. Do you think WE should ensure everybody gets one? If so, then to what extent? ... 2 year certificate? ... BA degree? ... Doctorate? ... on what basis? What's the difference between that and elementary thru high school education being the entitlement government has made of it? AFAIC, the way to handle it is the way it was done before any government involvement ever existed. Bob /\-/\ - proud Ilk homebody@galstar.com C.A.T. ( o o ) Chapter Ilks == ^ == Green Country - Oklahoma http://www.galstar.com/~homebody/ * SLMR 2.1a * The one room school-house ... best education model known. * Origin: Shadow of The Cat (1:170/1701.10) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 115 RUSH LIMBAUGH Ref: F2K00034 Date: 02/14/98 From: MATT MUNSON Time: 11:59am \/To: DAVID HARTUNG (Read 0 times) Subj: townhall -> TID: PX/Win v2.0 PX95-0309M -> MSGID: 1:123/522 1329d9f9 -> -=> Quoting Matt Munson to All <=- -> MM> has anyone visited the townhall limbaugh discussion room? -> Huh? where can this be found? -> david.hartung@mcione.com -> Ilks of Metropolitan Walls/LENS -> Proud member of White House Enemies database www.townhall.com --- Platinum Xpress/Win/Wildcat5! v2.0 * Origin: The Edge of Insanity Akron, Ohio 330-896-4251 (1:2215/180) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 115 RUSH LIMBAUGH Ref: F2K00035 Date: 02/13/98 From: R.ANDREW HOOTON I Time: 12:23pm \/To: ALL (Read 0 times) Subj: Liars 2/2 TE> [ continued from last message ] TE> TE>------------------------------------------------------------- TE>In 1992 Clinton said that his enemies were targeting him for a TE>woman he didn't sleep with and a draft he didn't dodge. Liberals TE>knew in their hearts that both claims were lies, but they told TE>themselves that this didn't matter. TE> TE>In the Whitewater affair, liberals were presented with a case of TE>political corruption of a sort that they had classically fought, TE>a conspiracy by a circle of political insiders to loot a savings TE>and loan and to defraud a government loan program for women and TE>minorities. Whitewater too, liberals decided, didn't signify. TE> TE>When Hillary Rodham Clinton was found out to have made $100,000 TE>on a no-risk $1,000 investment in commodities deals with a lawyer TE>who represented one of Arkansas' largest regulated businesses, TE>liberals who had taken to the streets against Reagan's Decade of TE>Greed said -- oh, never mind. When the Clinton 1996 campaign TE>subverted the entire system of campaign finance laws, liberals TE>said, well, everybody does it. Lately, with independent counsel TE>Starr getting troublesome, liberals have been saying it is time TE>to scrap the liberal independent counsel act. TE> TE>And now this. On "Meet the Press" last Sunday, Tim Russert asked TE>Rep. Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) whether the allegations that the TE>most powerful boss in the world had sexually exploited a TE>21-year-old female intern raised questions about Bill Clinton's TE>treatment of women. No, no, said Pelosi, they raised questions TE>about Ken Starr's treatment of women. TE> TE>"There's a point of sensitivity that women have about Kenneth TE>Starr's attitude toward women; how he's investigating, exploiting TE>Monica Lewinsky, how he used Linda Tripp to do that," said TE>Pelosi, with a face so rigidly straight it seemed it might crack. TE>"The Susan McDougal case comes back to mind, because here again TE>is a humiliation of a woman because she won't tell him what he TE>wants to hear in that case. And now you see the humiliation of TE>Betty Currie." Yes, Susan McDougal was humiliated, and so was TE>Betty Currie. But the agent of their humiliation wasn't Ken TE>Starr; it was Bill Clinton. And he is the agent, too, of the TE>humiliation of Nancy Pelosi. TE> TE>The problem with Clinton is not only that he lies; it is that he TE>makes liars out of everybody else. The problem is not only that TE>his moral standards are low; it is that he requires that TE>everybody else lower theirs to meet his. By the time he is TE>finished, so too will be the quaint idea of a higher ground in TE>politics. TE> So sayeth our God, Rush Bob --- * PowerAccess 1.50 Renegade Tagline!! We're tired of Being Kidnapped!!! * Origin: Abacus PC Online www.abacus2.com (1:128/246) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 115 RUSH LIMBAUGH Ref: F2K00036 Date: 02/13/98 From: R.ANDREW HOOTON I Time: 12:29pm \/To: MARK WILSON (Read 0 times) Subj: ditto..... MW>Hello R.ANDREW. MW> MW>10 Feb 98 12:36, R.ANDREW HOOTON I wrote to ROBERT PLETT: MW> MW> RI> The name "Dittohead" came about after a woman came on and MW>told Rush MW> RI> "Ditto" pertaining to her agreement to what Rush was spouting MW>on that MW> RI> particulard day and all days previous. MW> MW>BZZZZT..!!!!! MW> MW>WRONG ANSWER.... MW> MW>Go back to square one. Wrong answer for a Dittohead. Which truth would you like to hear? Bob --- * PowerAccess 1.50 This product cruelly tested on defenseless furry animals. * Origin: Abacus PC Online www.abacus2.com (1:128/246) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 115 RUSH LIMBAUGH Ref: F2K00037 Date: 02/13/98 From: R.ANDREW HOOTON I Time: 12:33pm \/To: ROBERT PLETT (Read 0 times) Subj: Yet another Bimbo RP>On 02-10-98, R.ANDREW HOOTON I declared to ROBERT PLETT: RP> RP>RHI>Mr. Plett. I have found that one cannot have a balanced RP>conversation RP>RHI>with Rush's Dittoheads. RP> RP>If it's reasonable conversation you want, waltzing in here with RP>insults RP>directed at Rush, his listeners, and those who frequent this forum RP>isn't RP>the way to get it. When you behave like a boor, expect to be RP>treated RP>accordingly. Sooooo, your motto would be "Blind, stupid and loving it." I forgot that all worshippers at the throne of Rush would prefer to have the same thoughts = those that Limbaugh gave them. Bob --- * PowerAccess 1.50 4 yers ago I cudnt spel vise prezidant; now I are won!" * Origin: Abacus PC Online www.abacus2.com (1:128/246) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 115 RUSH LIMBAUGH Ref: F2K00038 Date: 02/13/98 From: R.ANDREW HOOTON I Time: 12:37pm \/To: ROBERT PLETT (Read 0 times) Subj: Dufus Waterloo? RP>On 02-10-98, R.ANDREW HOOTON I declared to ROBERT PLETT: RP> RP>RHI>RP>Nine years, eh. If you want anybody here to believe you've RP>RHI>RP>listened at all, much less nine years, you first need to RP>show you RP>RHI>RP>know the meaning of the term, "Dittohead". Frankly, from RP>what RP>RHI>RP>I've seen, you haven't a clue as to what it actually means, RP>RHI>RP>something that is well known RP> RP>RHI>The name "Dittohead" came about after a woman came on and told RP>Rush RP>RHI>"Ditto" pertaining to her agreement to what Rush was spouting RP>on RP>RHI>that particulard day and all days previous. RP> RP>Wrong! The term "ditto" was used by a caller expressing agreement RP>with RP>a previous caller who had praised the show and said they hoped it RP>would RP>never go away, and has meant that ever since. A "Dittohead" is RP>quite RP>simply an avid listener. RP> RP>Neither term is an expression of agreement with all the things RP>that Rush RP>says. That idea exists only in the minds, such as they have, of RP>certain RP>of Rush's critics, a fact that makes them immediately obvious, as RP>you RP>made yourself obvious by your own incorrect usage. RP> RP>RHI>Detractors of Rush coined the word "Dittohead" to designate RP>that RP>RHI>these people, like yourself, blindly follw his spouting. Rush RP>tried RP>RHI>to put a spin on the detractors to make "Dittohead" an RP>acceptable RP>RHI>term for the Mobius Strip Rush fan club. RP> RP>What Rush's detractors mean by it is immaterial - I asked you what RP>it RP>means to Rush and his listeners, and you blew it. RP> RP>RHI>I used to say, like most Dittoheads, that Rush was speaking RP>openly RP>RHI>of what I, myself, thought. I have an adversary on another RP>talk RP>RHI>line that constantly says that but he quotes the Rush Limbaugh RP>party RP>RHI>line as you do. RP> Again, so sayeth our God, Rush. Even YOUR writings and YOUR arguments all belong to Rush. Bob --- * PowerAccess 1.50 Excuse me, I have to recharge my flamethrower. * Origin: Abacus PC Online www.abacus2.com (1:128/246)