--------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 176 UNIX Ref: DFJ00005 Date: 11/10/96 From: LAWRENCE GARVIN Time: 10:24am \/To: RUNE JOHANSEN (Read 4 times) Subj: Ancestor tree of Unix Rune Johansen said in a message to All: RJ> Can anyone present a "ancestor tree" of the different Unix flavors RJ> for me? A tree that presents whic flavor that comes from wich, and RJ> where they parted in different systems etc. Hmmmm.... I'm not sure there would be much to the tree, Rune. Essentially what happened is that when AT&T (Bell Labs) invented Unix, they gave source code licenses to universities all over the world, free of charge. One university -- the University of California at Berkeley (UCB) -- took their free copy of Unix seriously, and spent a great deal of time modifying and enhancing the product. This is where the BSD (Berkeley Software Distribution) series of products comes from. After AT&T started selling the product commercially, a startup company called Microsoft (long before they'd met IBM) acquired a source code license from AT&T and released a product called Microsoft Xenix. Tandy/Radio Shack picked up on that, and used it with their Model 6000 (Motorola 68000 processor) in what was the first commercially available implementation to the consumer. Microsoft licensed their Xenix to another startup company called Santa Cruz Operations, and that's where SCO Xenix came from. Later SCO obtained a Unix license direct from AT&T, and began selling their own release of SCO Unix. Here's a basic tree though: Ŀ AT&T (Unix) Ŀ Ŀ Ŀ UCBerkeley Microsoft SCO (BSD Unix) Ĵ (Xenix) Ĵ (Xenix) Ŀ SCO (Unix) Ĵ Ŀ Ŀ Unix Unix Vendors Vendors lawrence@eforest.houston.tx.us --- * Origin: The Enchanted Forest | Houston, Texas (1:106/6018) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 176 UNIX Ref: DFJ00006 Date: 11/10/96 From: MODERATOR Time: 10:50am \/To: IAN KOENIG (Read 4 times) Subj: URGENT APPEAL !!!!!!! Ian Koenig said in a message to All: IK> * Crossposted from: Main Board (Tech Support) IK> PLEASE HELP IK> !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I return the request. Do NOT knowlingly violate these echo rules again. Posted from the U.S. Robotics Technical Support board, to boot! Lawrence Garvin Moderator, UNIX lawrence@eforest.houston.tx.us --- * Origin: The Enchanted Forest | Houston, Texas (1:106/6018) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 176 UNIX Ref: DFJ00007 Date: 11/10/96 From: LAWRENCE GARVIN Time: 10:44am \/To: PAUL BOOTH (Read 4 times) Subj: Help! Paul Booth said in a message to Chris Russell: PB> Hi Chris, -=> Chris Russell wrote to All <=- CR> 1) How are IP addresses defined, or rather, how can you recognize a CR> particular organisation. CR> CR> IE: All the servers here at Uni of Sunderland seems to start with CR> 157.228.xxx.xxx so, are the 1st 2 numbers the organization/site ID ? PB> You can apply, and are allocated, by the relevant body (RIPE, PB> Internic, etc) a bunch of ip addresses, these are known as a PB> classes. The domains are A.B.C.D, and your university will have PB> been allocated a class C domain, which will give 256x256 hosts. Correction, Paul, all IP numbers are now issued by the Internet Service Provider. The classes are A, B, and C. The IP network 157.228 is a Class B network. When one is issued numbers, they are issued a NETWORK number not a 'class'. 'Class' is merely an descriptive term to identify the number of available host addresses in a particular network address. Class A networks have 256^2 x 254 hosts. Class B networks have 256 x 254 hosts. Class C networks have 254 hosts. lawrence@eforest.houston.tx.us --- * Origin: The Enchanted Forest | Houston, Texas (1:106/6018) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 176 UNIX Ref: DFJ00008 Date: 11/09/96 From: CHAD SIMMONS Time: 08:46pm \/To: KURT WEISKE (Read 4 times) Subj: Unix for a 286 ? Hi Kurt Weiske, hope you are having a nice day 06-Nov-96 21:20:46, Kurt Weiske wrote to Charlie Kirchenbauer Subject: Unix for a 286 ? KW> MINIX will - it's a UNIX-like OS that Andy Tanenbaum wrote to KW> support his OS classes, complete with a good book on OS design. The KW> source code and executables can be distributed for educational or KW> non-commercial use, and it's been ported to Atari, 68K Macs, and KW> other platforms. How big is it, and can I have my computer switch between it, and dos at startup?(I have a 486dx2-50 w/4megs of mem, but the bad part is a 45 meg HD) Chad Simmons Written on Sat 9 Nov 1996 at 20:48:33. ... Error 15 - Unable to exit Windows. Try the door. --- Terminate 4.00/Pro * Origin: Chads Point via Terminate 4.0 (1:142/550.4) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 176 UNIX Ref: DFJ00009 Date: 11/07/96 From: JONATHAN HUNTER Time: 11:21pm \/To: SEBASTIJAN HAVRLISAN (Read 4 times) Subj: Hello Sebastijan! 03 Nov 96 09:13, Sebastijan Havrlisan wrote to All: SH> Where i can find some help about UNIX?!?! In this echo? Jonathan ... If you can't beat your computer at chess, try kickboxing. --- FMail/386 1.02 * Origin: The Ninja BBS - +44 (0)161 283 1098 - <> (2:250/182) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 176 UNIX Ref: DFJ00010 Date: 11/07/96 From: PAUL BOOTH Time: 01:42am \/To: CHRIS RUSSELL (Read 4 times) Subj: Help! Hi Chris, -=> Chris Russell wrote to All <=- CR> 1) How are IP addresses defined, or rather, how can you recognize a CR> particular organisation. CR> CR> IE: All the servers here at Uni of Sunderland seems to start with CR> 157.228.xxx.xxx so, are the 1st 2 numbers the organization/site ID ? You can apply, and are allocated, by the relevant body (RIPE, Internic, etc) a bunch of ip addresses, these are known as a classes. The domains are A.B.C.D, and your university will have been allocated a class C domain, which will give 256x256 hosts. There is no 'rhyme or reason' as to which domain has which address. An address in the 145.123.X.X might be in the states where as 145.123.X+1.X might be in France. However, generally speaking, large naming commitees are allocated blocks under which the sub-allocate to companies like ISPs and the like. CR> 2) Is there any way to attach a name to an allocated port in UNIX CR> (ie: I`ve written a program in C (for unix) which opens to ports CR> (7000 and 7001 currently)), is there any way to attach names to those, CR> like you would tasks on an amiga. CR> CR> SO it admin listed the ports in use, it would come up with that text? CR> CR> (Sorry I am not too UNIX literate ATM) I'm not quite sure what you mean, but I think the answer is the services file. You would have to give the given port number a reference to a particular service (a mud?), and then if someone did a netstat or queried the port then it would show up as 'your_mud'. I think :). Paul. ... and God said: nohup make World >& World.log & --- * Origin: The Field BBS * 01706 868997 * 24 Hours V34+ (2:250/121) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 176 UNIX Ref: DFJ00011 Date: 11/07/96 From: JOHN ANDERSON Time: 10:17pm \/To: KURT WEISKE (Read 4 times) Subj: Minix Hi, All! KW>I currently have a MINIX box up with several users, serving mail, FTP, KW>and web pages, on a 286-12 with 2 megs of RAM and 100 megs of Disk. KW>MINIX can also install on as little as an XT with 2 360K floppies - it KW>was meant as a teching tool for college students, so the overhead KW>costs for the students had to be low. Sounds great:-)) and I have an old XT lying arround doing nothing, it would therefore be nice to put it to some use and give me a chance to learn something about Unix:-))) One problem, I don't have Internet access :-(( is there anywhere else that I could get more info ??? Thanking you in advance Best Regards John ... How do you tell when you run out of invisible ink? --- FMailX 1.20 * Origin: THE CLAN +44 (0)161 861 7161 USERS & POINTS Wanted (2:250/183) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 176 UNIX Ref: DFJ00012 Date: 11/08/96 From: JACKY VAN DEN BROEK Time: 02:23pm \/To: JONATHAN HUNTER (Read 4 times) Subj: Rebroadcast of SCO Free Offer... --- FMail 1.0g * Origin: G.O.E. MultiLine BBS 32-3-2300056 (5 lines) (2:292/812) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 176 UNIX Ref: DFJ00013 Date: 11/09/96 From: RUNE JOHANSEN Time: 11:00am \/To: ALL (Read 4 times) Subj: Ancestor tree of Unix Can anyone present a "ancestor tree" of the different Unix flavors for me? A tree that presents whic flavor that comes from wich, and where they parted in different systems etc. Rune --- BBBS/2 v3.33 How-C * Origin: BarCode BBS - Norway (2:210/20) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 176 UNIX Ref: DFJ00014 Date: 11/04/96 From: RJ AGUILA Time: 06:15pm \/To: MAKSYMILIAN WRZESINSKI (Read 4 times) Subj: unix vs linux? MW> RA> what's the differance between linux and Unix? MW> There is no diff. Linux is one of unices. Oh ok thanks ___ SLMR 2.0 My reality check just bounced. --- Silver Xpress Mail System 5.4W1b * Origin: Jolly Roger BBS : +81-611-733-1464 (6:733/19)