--------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 176 UNIX Ref: D3I00013 Date: 03/13/96 From: NEETI RAY Time: 10:59am \/To: BOB NIGHTINGALE (Read 7 times) Subj: Re: Free??? Bob on 03/11/96 said to Neeti, BN>-=> Quoting Neeti Ray to Bob Nightingale <=- BN>NR> what about installations where the Unix box is a turnkey operation, o BN>NR> dedicated admin? A BN>NR> few thousand here and there will definitely make a difference between BN>NR> the consultant getting the contract or not. BN> BN>The cost of tools will definitely make an impact on design decisions. BN>Platinum AutoXfer (the remote installation tool) uses a C-Tree BN>database on each workstation. The royalties could add up since most BN>customers that buy AutoXfer do so for hundreds or thousands or BN>workstations at a time. I might add here, that small businesses really stand to benefit even more from cheaper software too. For many smaller companies, a free Unix server can make a difference of quite a few thousand $$$$. [snip] BN>I think you just realized a business opportunity for anyone who wants BN>to take it up. All you have to do is partner with InfoMagic or one BN>of the other Linux re-packagers. The get a 900 number to handle BN>technical support calls per currently distributed version of Linux. BN>As long as you can keep wait times on the phone to less than five BN>minutes and your service is just as good as Sun or HP, then you have BN>it made. Perhaps Digital Equipment would have an interest since BN>Linux runs on DEC Alphas. Just a thought. Too late. It's been done already. DEC is selling Red Hat's Linux Alpha package w/ their machines, w/ support included (by Red Hat). Red Hat also offers support for the i386 version that they sell. Between Red Hat & Caldera, they're also supporting the Intel SMP, Sparc and PPC ports, presumably w/ the same plan in mind. Kin Lau (gabe@io.org) --- * UniQWK v3.3a* The Windows Mail Reader --- QScan/PCB v1.17b / 01-0348 * Origin: FidoNet: CRS Online, Toronto, Ontario (1:229/15) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 176 UNIX Ref: D3I00014 Date: 03/14/96 From: LAWRENCE GARVIN Time: 01:22am \/To: DARRELL BOWMAN (Read 7 times) Subj: RISC or Pentium Darrell Bowman said in a message to All: DB> Here's another question or two... DB> 1. How comparable is a Pentium to a RISC 6000 as far as power. DB> I've got an IBM RISC/6000 running AIX and a Pentium 133 running DB> SCO Openserver 5.0. Will the P133 give me the same kind of DB> performance of the RISC? What if I go to a multiple processor CPU? Need more information, Darrell. What speed is the RISC 6000? How much memory in each system? What type of drive subsystems, and what type of filesystems are in use? Probably it's a tossup, though. RISC AIX is optimized for that processor; whereas, SCO OpenServer was compiled for the i486, and to my knowledge, there is not yet a Pentium-optimized version available. DB> 2 Could a person run SCO Openserver 5.0 on the IBM? Nope. SCO products are almost exclusively Intel-based, although I've seen statements elsewhere insinuating a non-Intel version of SCO. lawrence@garvin.hd.co.harris.tx.us --- * Origin: The Enchanted Forest | Houston, Texas (1:106/6018) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 176 UNIX Ref: D3J00000 Date: 03/14/96 From: JOHN DONOHUE Time: 10:31am \/To: STEVE ROY (Read 7 times) Subj: file space SR> A couple of years ago an internet e-mail address was SR> special, but now they are just like belly buttons - SR> eveyone has one! SR> Its a throwback from my hot rodder days when a chevy SR> engine was considered a belly button I thought maybe it was because the '@' was in_the_middle, and sort of looked like a belly button. When I was in high school and college, the Mopar and Blue Oval guys also likened Chevy SB's to an anatomical feature that everybody has, but it _wasn't_ the belly button. =8-O --- Maximus 2.02 * Origin: McAllen Memorial Library FidoNet (1:397/5258) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 176 UNIX Ref: D3J00001 Date: 03/11/96 From: JOHN POLTORAK Time: 09:33am \/To: ALL (Read 7 times) Subj: X for OS/2 A N N O U N C E M E N T O F X F R E E 8 6 / O S 2 This text is posted to various newsgroups and mailing-lists, as well as sent as private mail to a number of persons. If you have seen this text in your mailbox or a mailing-list, please don't reply to this mail (even not for thanks or flames). Use other resources below. This letter shouldn't be interpreted as a chain letter either, this would only annoy people. My apology, if you are no longer interested in the subject, but you have asked - probably long ago - for the subject. This is the announcement of XFree86-3.1.2D, the first public test version of a free implement of The X Windows System for OS/2. The intended auditorium for this code is the experienced developer, not the end user. This system is an ALPHA version, i.e. expect numerous bugs and even system crashes, which could even worse damage hardware or software. There is absolutely NO WARRANTY, and neither I nor anyone else is responsible for any damage or data loss. If you don't accept this, then simply do not obtain the software. How to obtain: -------------- The system is currently available from ftp.xfree86.org /pub/XFree86/beta/OS2 but should be available from hobbes.nmsu.edu and ftp.leo.org very soon. The directory contains zip files of about 26MB totally, but you won't need all of them. In order to save net bandwidth and save money, get the files 00README.1ST and 312Dbase.zip first and leave the other files alone until you have read what you really want to have. You might also get the files README.OS2, X11OS2.FAQ, and LATEST.OS2 for more detailed information. Other sources of information: ----------------------------- We'll use the news groups comp.os.os2.announce for announcements, comp.os.os2.programmer.porting for porting/programming issues, and comp.os.os2.setup.misc for installation problems and will also be present in these newsgroups. Please avoid excessive cross-posting, and use an appropriate subject. You might also find new information from the URL http://borneo.gmd.de/~veit/os2/xf86os2.html. There is no mailing list yet, but we'll try to establish one provided there is sufficient interest. Please note that if you got this message via e-mail that this is not a mailing list and won't work for broadcasting. Please report bugs to me (Holger.Veit@gmd.de), not to a newsgroup, because I would possibly miss them otherwise, but read all the enclosed documents and X11 documentation first to be sure that this is really a bug. Have fun Holger Veit, Sebastien Marineau and the XFree86 Project --- * Origin: (2:250/313) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 176 UNIX Ref: D3J00002 Date: 03/12/96 From: MIKE JAGDIS Time: 07:30pm \/To: BARRY PEARCE (Read 7 times) Subj: X.400 standard BP> > You can't. You have to buy them. Although you could try reading BP> Do you?!! I thought they were openly published by ITU (was BP> CCITT) I thought I had some sat on a cdrom somewhere BP> though.... I know at least some are freely available. I thought they worked like most of the other standards bodies and used profit from selling copies to fund the process. BP> > one of the freely available implementations such as PP and I BP> > think Prentice Hall have an (expensive) X.400 book out. BP> no chance of an ISBN then. What about EDI specs such as BP> TRADACOMS, X12, EDIFACT? Any ideas where one could pick up BP> specs? I think there might be an EDI book in the series too. Probably worth adding a PH catalogue to the collection. Mike --- * Origin: The Purple Tentacle +44 1734 266974 (2:252/305) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 176 UNIX Ref: D3J00003 Date: 03/14/96 From: JEFF COLE Time: 11:17pm \/To: MATT CRAWFORD (Read 6 times) Subj: Unix |------------------|Matt Crawford wrote: MC>Where can Unix be purchased and how much does it cost? MC> |------------------|about Unix Well, you can contact Bell Labs and they'll be more than happy to sell it to you for quite a nice price. However, I'm going to make an assumption here. You want to run Unix on your computer. Well, if your computer is a IBM Compatible, then your in luck! You can purchase Linux, the PC version of Unix, and a book for around $20 - $30. I suggest getting the Slackware Linux as it is highly regarded by most people in the Linux echo. It comes on a CD, and full installation is around 250 MB. However, you can get it down to 10 MB if you don't install everything. ... "There's never a 70 year old around when you need one." - 007 -!- * Tag-X Pro v1.40 * --- * Origin: * My Place BBS * Bowie, Md USA * V.34 * (301)805-1602 * 1:109/570) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 176 UNIX Ref: D3J00004 Date: 03/13/96 From: MARK SHAW Time: 09:36pm \/To: ALLEN WITTENAUER (Read 6 times) Subj: Re: Linux X-windows on Mach64 Hello Allen 05-Mar-96 09:34:00, Allen Wittenauer wrote to Kenneth Cheng Subject: Re: Linux X-windows on Mach64 Hope you don't mind me routing this reply to Kenneth via you! 2 thoughts: 1)Have you made a link to the new Mach X-Server? In your /usr/X11R6/bin you should have a file X linked to the mach server. Do an #ls -al X* and see if the link is in place. 2)If you startx X with the following it will write a log file called x.log in your current directory which you can read with vi; #startx x.log 2>1& you will then be able to see how far the server gets before bombing. BTW to kill the server when it blanks your screen press Ctr+Alt+Backspace. If you know any or all of this feel free to ignore me! -=> Yours Mark Shaw <=- email:mark@kaisun.demon.co.uk 13-Mar-1996 --- Terminate 3.00/Pro * Origin: Operating Systems are personal- unless you use Win95 (2:256/303.5)