--------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 176 UNIX Ref: CGZ00019 Date: 12/26/95 From: JOHN POLTORAK Time: 12:29pm \/To: LAWRENCE GARVIN (Read 10 times) Subj: File Systems Hello Lawrence! Sunday December 24 1995, Lawrence Garvin writes to John Poltorak: JP>> I'm not sure that has any relevance to anything. It does not JP>> mean that they can determine the future development of Unix. JP>> Source code in itself is not much use because Unix has now been JP>> defined in terms of functionality, and how it achieves that JP>> functionality is unimportant. LG> Another useful point to keep in mind is that while SCO may own the OURCE LG> CODE to the product, they do not own the TRADEMARK!! LG> Have you noticed that SCO products no longer claim to be 'Unix' -- but LG> rather are being marketed as "SCO Open Desktop" and "SCO Open Server" BP>> HP are in league with SCO to further UNIX. Now that is a BP>> pretty impressive line up. JP>> Sounds like a possible merger/takeover somewhere down the JP>> line... LG> Uh, I think it already happened . Of course, the question I don't ave LG> the answer to is what influence, if any, that SCO and HP have over the LG> X/Open Consortium (vis-a-vis the trademark rights, use, and ownership). JP>> Is SCO purely an Intel based Unix? LG> SCO Open Desktop/Server products are exclusively Intel-based products. This is the main reason why their long term survival must be called into question. With the PowerPC almost upon us, its performance advantage over Intel based machines is likely bring about a migration to systems which support it. Currently these are AIX and Solaris (currently still in beta), and maybe Linux. HP may be aware of the potential size of this market, so it sounds as though snapping up SCO and devloping a PowerPC port of the SCO product line would be a judicious thing to do. John ---------------------------------- mailto://jpolt@bradnet.demon.co.uk --- * Origin: (2:250/313) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 176 UNIX Ref: CGZ00020 Date: 12/26/95 From: JOHN POLTORAK Time: 12:45pm \/To: LOU ARRUDA (Read 10 times) Subj: Linux Saturday December 23 1995, Lou Arruda writes to John Poltorak: -=>> Quoting John Poltorak to Lawrence Garvin <=- JP>> Can you get the X Window System for DOS? LA> Not for DOS per se, but you can get it for Windows. I was wondering if a native X Windows System was available for DOS as a possible replacement for Windows... John ---------------------------------- mailto://jpolt@bradnet.demon.co.uk --- * Origin: (2:250/313) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 176 UNIX Ref: CGZ00021 Date: 12/26/95 From: JOHN POLTORAK Time: 12:48pm \/To: LAWRENCE GARVIN (Read 10 times) Subj: Routers Hello Lawrence! Sunday December 24 1995, Lawrence Garvin writes to John Poltorak: BP>> architecture 2nd ed. by Douglas E. Comer, Published by BP>> Prentice-Hall. JP>> I have both vol 1 & 2, but they are far too academic for me. I JP>> need something more practical. LG> Bad news, John. TCP/IP -is- academic. There's no easy way around it. :) I would disagree. I got TCP/IP working *in spite of* Comer's book. The book made everything sound so complicated that I ended utterly confused. There is no real need to understand how it works to get it working. You don't need to know how a power station works to switch on a light bulb! :-). LG> I'm currently reading Comer's Volume 1 3rd edition. I've read a couple f LG> other TCP/IP books, and Ethernet networking books, and various other books LG> on technical subjects pertaining to networking. I recently bought a book called 'Internetworking LANs and WANs' by Gilbert Head simply because it was the only book I found which had WAN in the title. I have no idea if this book is 'rated' by specialists in this area, or how useful, relevant or uptodate it is, but at least it exposes me to some terminology which may be worth knowing. If you come across any books covering this area, feel free to share your impressions. LG> Comer's book is regarded as the 'bible' for a reason. It's one of the LG> best. Trust me, they don't get any easier. :) I keep peeking at it every so often, and a few thing start making sense, but only as a result of practical experience I have acquired. John ---------------------------------- mailto://jpolt@bradnet.demon.co.uk --- * Origin: (2:250/313) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 176 UNIX Ref: CGZ00022 Date: 12/27/95 From: RICHARD VOUT Time: 03:35am \/To: DAVE LANDRETTE (Read 10 times) Subj: Hexen Herectic -=> Quoting Dave Landrette to All <=- DL> If anybody out there knows how or where to find the fire key in this DL> blasted game please fill me in so I could get on with my life!! Dare I say it?...Wrong button! :-) BFN ._ |_} | \ichard. ... "Transporter chief Landrette, beam the landing party to the bridge" --- Blue Wave v2.12 [NR] * Origin: DoNoR/2,Woking UK (44-1483-725167) (2:440/4) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 176 UNIX Ref: CGZ00023 Date: 12/28/95 From: BARRY PEARCE Time: 12:58am \/To: JOHN POLTORAK (Read 10 times) Subj: File Systems Hi John, > Is SCO purely an Intel based Unix? AFAIK. Regards, Fidonet : 2:252/18.27 (Faulty Towers) Barry Pearce Internet: barry@sapient.demon.co.uk 100443.3631@compuserve.com --- FMail 0.98 * Origin: (2:252/18.27) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 176 UNIX Ref: CGZ00024 Date: 12/28/95 From: BARRY PEARCE Time: 01:03am \/To: YOUSUF KHAN (Read 10 times) Subj: Linux Hi Yousuf, > simple processor. DEC's original Ultrix Unix was just a shell > running under VMS. I take it you mean the very early days as this was not the case by 1990. > Many of the IBM mainframe operating systems are also booted into > memory by another operating system. This has been the case for > years, each operating system is basically assigned its own > portion of resources (memory, CPU, peripherals, etc.) and they > control them entirely. Indeed aparently IBM have AIX which you can run under mvs. Regards, Fidonet : 2:252/18.27 (Faulty Towers) Barry Pearce Internet: barry@sapient.demon.co.uk 100443.3631@compuserve.com --- FMail 0.98 * Origin: (2:252/18.27) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 176 UNIX Ref: CGZ00025 Date: 12/28/95 From: LAWRENCE GARVIN Time: 02:42pm \/To: VYTAUTAS KASPARAVICIUS (Read 10 times) Subj: Slackware ?????? From: Lawrence.Garvin@f6018.n106.z1.fidonet.org (Lawrence Garvin) Subject: Slackware ?????? Organization: Barney's Rubble Vytautas Kasparavicius said in a message to All: VK> Hi All , hope you are having a nice day VK> What is difference between %subj% Linux and "classic" Linux VK> ?????? "Linux" is a reference to the kernel itself. Slackware is a -distribution- of a Linux kernel packaged with selected utilities, applications, capabilities, etc. lawrence@garvin.hd.co.harris.tx.us --- * Origin: Usenet: Barney's Rubble InternetBarney's Rubble (2:25/25.0)