--------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 176 UNIX Ref: CGW00005 Date: 12/26/95 From: YOUSUF KHAN Time: 09:01am \/To: CHRIS JACKSON (Read 10 times) Subj: Jobs CJ> Greetings, CJ> I've been looking for a job which involves UNIX programming/ CJ> system admin etc.. and I've had a little or no replys to CJ> all the places I've applied for. CJ> Is there anyone out there know of any jobs going at the CJ> moment? I've gained a Degree in computer science CJ> and 1 yrs experience programming UNIX workstations (SUN, CJ> SOL, NEC, DEC, SGI and HP). CJ> If you have any information or can help, please contact me CJ> :) CJ> HAPPY XMAS! I got no job for you, unfortunately; just some advice about job hunting. When you're looking for a particular type of job, beit programming or beit system admin, then you should just emphasize that portion in your resume. If you're looking for programming jobs, then emphasize just that portion, and just mention system admin as a side note; do the opposite for system admin jobs. You have to keep the employer's attention, and that means keeping the resume short and easily scannable. Send out two separate resumes to the same prospective employer if you want to apply for a programming or a system admin job with them. And of course mass mail the resumes even if you don't see an ad in the paper from these employers. Yousuf Khan --- Maximus 3.00 * Origin: Ready & Determined (1:163/506) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 176 UNIX Ref: CGW00006 Date: 12/26/95 From: LAWRENCE GARVIN Time: 04:53pm \/To: JOHN POLTORAK (Read 10 times) Subj: Boot partitions John Poltorak said in a message to Lawrence Garvin: LG> Well, it -could- be done, but it would take an enormous amount LG> of time and manual effort to create a stripped down root LG> filesystem, then you'd need to cpio or tar it to a tape, LG> manually rebuild the root partition to the minimal size LG> necessary, boot from a floppy, and tar/cpio the archive back to LG> the root partition. LG> And the critical question is what to strip and what not to strip. :) JP> I'm really surprised that there isn't a well established JP> procedure for doing this already in place. What happens if JP> someone has accidentally reformatted your hard disk and you JP> need to restore a system from tape? Well, then I have to rebuild the filesystems anyway. :) And also it means that I have to =restore= everything that was stored on that drive. JP> With OS/2, I can boot from a single floppy, access a tape JP> across a network, and restore from that. Most modern Unix releases that have TCP/IP support will also provide the capability to do this as well. But note that neither OS will permit you to do this if the drive media has been 'reformatted'. lawrence@garvin.hd.co.harris.tx.us --- * Origin: The Enchanted Forest | Houston, Texas (1:106/6018) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 176 UNIX Ref: CGW00007 Date: 12/25/95 From: BILL PETREE Time: 10:57pm \/To: BILL.PETREE@SOURCEBBS.COM (Read 10 times) Subj: TEST MESSAGE This is a test of FIDONET access. No responses desired. --- PCBoard (R) v15.22/M 10 (08-29-95 1 * Origin: On-Line with WBCB - (804) 865-4499 (1:271/71) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 176 UNIX Ref: CGX00000 Date: 12/25/95 From: REMO CORNALI Time: 05:39pm \/To: LAWRENCE GARVIN (Read 10 times) Subj: Re: tar: directory checksum error Salute a te, Lawrence, In a message of 25 Nov 95 You wrote to Bruce Feist : BF>> I find that sometimes when trying to use tar to unload files BF>> on a tape produced by someone else, I get a message saying BF>> that there is a 'directory checksum error'. What causes BF>> this? LG> Generally, either (1) the tape is not a 'tar' formatted tape, or (2) LG> the tape was created with a non-standard 'tar' utility, or (3) the LG> format of the tape is incompatible with your tape drive. None of the above, at least in a harrowing experience I had. In making the contents of the last years of "Corriere della Sera", Italy's largest daily newspaper, available on Internet (http://globnet.rcs.it), in a WAIS searchable format, I had to transfer about two gigabytes from our IBM mainframe to a SUN Web server, on Sprint premises. Intermediate stage: an IBM R/6000, connected via token ring with the mainframe. Not knowing if my data could be accomodated in one hunk on the SUN, I decided not to melt the hunks I had (30-50 MB each) but to keep them separated, in tar format, about ten tar files per 4mm DAT tape. First surprise: /dev/rmt0 is unknown in SunOS, and it took me some searching and experimenting to find the name of the tape device (/dev/rst0). Is my tape readable? tar -tvf... Perfect! File is read without errors. I write a shell script with as many tar -xvf.. commands as there are tar files on that first tape. I run the script... first file OK, then some directory checksum errors, second file OK, then some directory checksum errors, and again, and then the script ends, without seemingly having executed all tar commands. I can't understand why, but if not all files are restored, let's run the script again. About the same happens, with varying numbers of directory checksum errors. But I note that the sum of restored files plus directory checksum errors is constant, and equals the number of tar commands in the script. So it appears every error message 'consumes' one tar command. Now what would happen if the 'tape mark' on the IBM tape device were much longer than the Sun tape device expects? After a successful tar restore the tape would be positioned in the middle of the 'tape mark' and the next tar command(s), trying to read directory information, would read garbage. Then let's try positioning the tape. The tctl (tape control) command, right? Nossir! It's mt in SunOS, and it took me another hour to find that one. :-( Adding one mt fsf command after each tar command in the script, the script ran without errors. All files restored. Phheewww! BF>> Is there a way to resurrect the info on the tape? LG> Send it back to the originator and ask them to make you a new tape that LG> you -can- read. :) Again not applicable in my case, since I was the originator. You too, I suppose, just LOVE those messages which direct the hapless programmer to System Support, when those messages happen to you, the hapless System Support. ;-) Ciao! Remo Cornali --- Point Manager 3.20 #8202 * Origin: CIO' CHE E' OVVIO per te NON E' sempre OVVIO per me! (2:331/301.2) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 176 UNIX Ref: CGX00001 Date: 12/23/95 From: WALTER VAUGHAN Time: 03:23pm \/To: LAWRENCE GARVIN (Read 10 times) Subj: More folklore LG> Walter Vaughan said in a message to All: WV> Just got to thinkin... LG> the 68000, and then OEMed to Tandy for sale on the LG> upgraded Model 16 and the subsequent Tandy 6000. (I LG> have the dubious honor of having sold and supported LG> those Tandy 6000 Xenix systems). LG> Note also, that those systems only supported three or LG> four simultaneous users in a character-terminal ONLY Just last week had to fire up a 16B. Needed to get a copy of corporate board minutes from 1989. We ran eight terminals off that sucker for a year! WV> I say that because today any new Intel based Unix is expected WV> to run a 8086 binary from 1983 until the cows come home. LG> Not quite. Perhaps an i386 binary -- but then the LG> instruction sets for the i386, i486, and Pentium are LG> basically the same. The only thing that would differ is You may want to check. Games that came with Xenix were for the most part complied to run on 8086 (run the hd or is it hdr command?), and I know that you could compile with the Xenix development system for MS-Dos, and 8086, 80286, and 80386 Xenix with the proper flag. Gosh, that brings back memories. I haven't wrote any real apps (C based) since Visual Basic came out! WV> proprietary 8086 architectures (Altos), LG> Albeit, single user systems. :) I Sold Altos computers :). I'd bet that 98% were used as multi-user machines. The popular 586 Altos supported 5 users, the 986 suported 9. The 186 was a single user machine, but I never saw a single one sold. (I also sold Kaypro's to put it in perspective... Kaypro also had the first 80286 compatible and they went belly up, Compaq beat IBM with a 386, and look who's still making a profit) LG> Can't see any reason why a minority stockholder not LG> involved with product development would need to be LG> subject to an NDA, though. Because Microsoft need SCO to remain a strong niche player. They don't want Intel based Unix to suceed too good, or badly. Microsoft investors don't get a return on their stock when I by a CDrom of Linux. I believe in the Linux concept, but nothing good can come from it if it overtakes the entire PC Unix world. All of those developers all over the world have to eventually be paid a salary from someone. It's not like Sun giving Java away.. they are getting programmers hooked on a language that must be licensed from Sun by MS and Netscape. Sharing ideas is fun and exciting, but eventually you have to eat, buy a car, build a house. You can't do that giving away all of your talent. I like my job, and would gladly do it for fun. The only problem is eventually I would have to do something that society would be willing to pay me sometthing for so I can feed my wife, child, and the new baby on the way. --- Maximus/2 2.02 * Origin: The Programmer's Assistant - Charlotte, N.C. - OS/2 (1:379/4) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 176 UNIX Ref: CGX00002 Date: 12/26/95 From: CHRIS PITZEL Time: 10:51pm \/To: BARRY PEARCE (Read 10 times) Subj: Text-Editor for AIX BP> Hi Wolfram, > does anybody know an easy to handle texteditor for example like > the DOS- > Edit, which I could use instead of the "VI" under AIX 3.2.5 ? BP> arghh! Surely you cant be serious? Porting DOS stuff to BP> UNIX? vi is extremely powerful, okay its not very easy BP> to get to grips with, but im sure a look at one of the BP> O'Reilly (ok spelt wrong but...) books should give you BP> a hand - they are very cheap and can give you the BP> helping hand you need. BP> If you dont like vi you could try emacs but I cant BP> gaurantee it being on AIX. BP> Regards, I think this gentleman would find the "pico" editor very agreeable for him. When I first started using Unix (on a DEC Ultrix machine) a few years ago, that was one of the first programs I found and compiled for it. CP> pitz@arbornet.org --- Maximus/2 3.00 * Origin: Freeman's Brother - 6 Gig, 2 Lines 33.6 USR v.34+ (1:140/65) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 176 UNIX Ref: CGX00003 Date: 12/26/95 From: CHRIS PITZEL Time: 10:58pm \/To: SAM SLADE (Read 10 times) Subj: opinion on DEC OSF/1 CP> Of course, DEC OSF/1 is the more modern of CP> the two variants of Unix, CP>but does anyone have any opinions about either of CP>them from both a user and SS> among other things has added a new file system... the advanced file SS> system, which will give much quicker and reliable recovery than SS> the standard unix file system... of course it has the expected SS> immediate learning curve which requires one to spend a bit of time in SS> the man pages/bookshelf which brings me to the point of all this ... SS> and that is that I personally feel that the DEC Unix documentation on CD SS> is VERY good... much better than what I have run into in other flavors. SS> Alpha's are impressive systems! :-) Indeed, even though they require much more in terms of resources to do the same job a VAX does. Running under OpenVMS V 6.2, I compared the times to compile a copy of Lynx 2-4-2 (a WWW browser) between a DEC VAX 3100-95 with 128mb of RAM, and a DEC AlphaServer with 256 mb of memory, and 4 200mhz processors (I forget the exact model number though). The VAX managed to complete the compile in 50% of the time that the DEC alpha took. Also note that there were no other processes or users running on either of the machines, so nothing else could have been loading them down. Of course, I think OpenVMS sucks compared to Unix, but the release of Version 7 apparently has been certified to POSIX standards, so technically, it is Unix.. CP> --- Maximus/2 3.00 * Origin: Freeman's Brother - 6 Gig, 2 Lines 33.6 USR v.34+ (1:140/65) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 176 UNIX Ref: CGX00004 Date: 12/26/95 From: BARRY PEARCE Time: 01:32pm \/To: JOHN POLTORAK (Read 10 times) Subj: Routers Hi John, > I have both vol 1 & 2, but they are far too academic for me. I oh....im not quite with you about what you want then....you mentioned HDLC I understood you wanted to know about protocols... > need something more practical. After several years pursuing > this, I've been told I need an an adapter with an X21 interface > on it, but there isn't even a mention of X21 in Comer's book. aha...well thats h/w. He wont mention it.... > Doesn't HDLC work with Kilostream links? Um......Kilostream is h/w its protocol afaik is unrelated but this is now out of my depth... > All I'm trying to do is find out how a Netblazer supplied by > Pipex is configured. It's connected to a BT NTU via one cable > and to a PC via another cable. The router to PC part, I > understand, but the router to NTU remains a mystery. well. I think you have been told. X21. THis is the cable requirement. Now are you talking about h/w or s/w configuration of the router... > BTW do you know if it's possible to use two X25 cards and > connect them directly using something like a null modem cable to > simulate a wide area X25 connection? oooh....dunno....beyond me...would be VERY handy though... Regards, Fidonet : 2:252/18.27 (Faulty Towers) Barry Pearce Internet: barry@sapient.demon.co.uk 100443.3631@compuserve.com --- FMail 0.98 * Origin: (2:252/18.27) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 176 UNIX Ref: CGX00005 Date: 12/26/95 From: RICHARD VOUT Time: 08:09pm \/To: NEETI RAY (Read 10 times) Subj: GNU Tar -=> Quoting Neeti Ray to Yousuf Khan <=- What is tar short for or stand for? Had a Happy Christmas? and a Merry New Year BFN ._ |_} | \ichard. ... "Bother" said Pooh as the vice squad took his gifs. --- Blue Wave v2.12 [NR] * Origin: DoNoR/2,Woking UK (44-1483-725167) (2:440/4) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 176 UNIX Ref: CGX00006 Date: 12/26/95 From: WAI_KEE TSANG Time: 06:49pm \/To: BARRY PEARCE (Read 10 times) Subj: Re: Daemons & Shell Variables Hi Barry, Wai_kee was suiting up for battle when Barry Pearce interrupted Thanks for the info. It's given me a few things I can think about. See ya, Wai Kee ... New Mail not found. Start whine-pout sequence? (Y/N) --- OMX/Blue Wave v2.12 * Origin: Slice Of Reality (2:2500/603.11)