--------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 176 UNIX Ref: CGR00019 Date: 12/21/95 From: DOMINIQUE TRINE Time: 07:51am \/To: WALTER VAUGHAN (Read 12 times) Subj: Sun reliablity Hello Walter! Friday December 15 1995 23:26, Walter Vaughan wrote to All: WV> In the past two years I have seen more hardware failures with my nternet WV> providers than can believe. They are having equipment fail like I did WV> nearly ten years ago on our Tandy 6000. Hard-drives, memory chips, power WV> supplies (alot of these lately) amoung other problems. .....cut here ...... I've been working as a system administrator in a bank over here running the complete dealing-room and the private customer departments on SUN machines, like: IPC, IPX, Sparc 2, Sparc 10, Sparc 20, Sparc 1000 and lately Sparc 5. All these machines were running SunOs 4.1.3 respectively SunOs 4.1.3_u1 for the Sparc 5 without problem. The Sparc 1000 was running Solaris 2.2 (SVR4) without any problem. All these machines (about 50 units) worked 24 hours/day in real-time update getting informations from Service-providers like Reuters, Telerate,... using the Teknekron Software without one single failure in 2 years. I therefore must assume, that maybe your IP-supplier plays a but too much around, or that these machines have not been configured properly or are running in bizarre conditions. I'm running a Sparc 5 at home and never had a problem with it in the last 2 years. Best Greetings, Dominique.Trine@P152.F25.N270.Z2.Fidonet.org If dolphins are so smart, why did Flipper work for television? --- GoldED 2.50.Beta4+ * Origin: FidoNet: The mobile station :-) (2:270/25.152) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 176 UNIX Ref: CGR00020 Date: 12/21/95 From: MARC SLEMKO Time: 02:18am \/To: YOUSUF KHAN (Read 9 times) Subj: Re: GNU Tar From: marcs@alive.ampr.ab.ca (Marc Slemko) In <819176300@f506.n163.z1.ftn> Yousuf Khan writes: >I'd like to replace the standard tar with GNU tar on the HP boxes, but I >need to justify it with my sysadmin group. I mean the fact that I can >redirect files to a different subdirectory tree is nice, but it's not >compelling enough to go through the effort of porting, esp. when a tar >already exists. I need a few more reasons why I should do it. I would be suprised if it took any time at all to port. If you are lucky, you may be able to get by with just running configure after unpacking it, then doing a make. If some people are leery of replacing anything, you can just add it; call it gtar or gnutar, then you can use it if you want, and not use it if you don't want. >For example, can GNU tar read standard tar's files? I understand that there Yes. read and write. >is some POSIX standards about the tar format. Also the fact that Gtar can >interact with Gzip is a nice plus. When a Gzip'ed and Gtar'ed file is being >created, are GNU Zip and GNU Tar interacting continuously, or does Gtar do >its work first, and then it calls Gzip to compress the tar file later? This >would be compelling because if tar and zip interact continuously, then it >would save some space on some particularly crammed file systems without >requiring nearly twice the space, just to tar it first and zip it later. gnutar pipes the output to gzip; you can do the same thing with a regular tar, except you need to do some redirection while with gnutar you just need to add a z to the command line. eg. 'tar cvzf out.tar.gz /tmp' is the same as 'tar cvf - /tmp | gzip > out.tar.gz' ...and 'tar xvzf out.tar.gz' is the same as 'gzcat out.tar.gz | tar xvf -' -- Marc Slemko 1:342/1003@fidonet marcs@alive.ampr.ab.ca marcs@alive.ersys.edmonton.ab.ca --- ifmail v.2.8 * Origin: The Meaning of Life (1:342/1003@fidonet) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 176 UNIX Ref: CGR00021 Date: 12/21/95 From: JERKO GOLUBOVIC Time: 05:56pm \/To: WALTER VAUGHAN (Read 9 times) Subj: Keystroke Capture WV> use an old 286.. cheap, dependable. Hardware and software ~$300 max. WV> Free if they have any lying around. Setup time 5 to 6 minutes. WV> Shoot me.. but I use the best easist avaiable tool. It may run on Unix WV> or Dos or Windows. Heck I'd even use OS/2 if it did something I WV> *really* needed it for. I think taht better approach is to discover how to do it with redirections. Cheaper, you don't have to solder cables, hunt COMM ports, rumble boxes around, buy additional hardware. I stand that this may be solution only if everything else fails. Writing few lines is easy. Moving coputers around is defintely not. /\/\ ... Go straight to the docs. Do not pass GO. Do not collect $200! --- Blue Wave/DOS v2.20 [NR] * Origin: Sprint BBS, Zagreb, Croatia * +385 1 455 5266 (2:381/112) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 176 UNIX Ref: CGR00022 Date: 12/21/95 From: WILL BURROW Time: 11:26am \/To: YOUSUF KHAN (Read 9 times) Subj: GNU Tar Yousuf Khan, In a message on 16 December, wrote : YK> For example, can GNU tar read standard tar's files? I understand that the That is my understanding, tar is a standard format. YK> some POSIX standards about the tar format. Also the fact that Gtar can in YK> with Gzip is a nice plus. When a Gzip'ed and Gtar'ed file is being create YK> GNU Zip and GNU Tar interacting continuously, or does Gtar do its work fi YK> and then it calls Gzip to compress the tar file later? This would be comp Compresses on the fly. Just checked this to be sure, and that is indeed how it is done. Works fine in constricted file space too. A truncated gzip-tar file is still usable (though tar complains unexpected EOF) and files can be extracted even when low on disk space. Will. ... * ATP/Linux 1.42 * When you go to the market, use your eyes, not your ears. --- PCBoard (R) v15.22/5 * Origin: TAD 1:255/101 (1:3615/51) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 176 UNIX Ref: CGR00023 Date: 12/22/95 From: MODERATOR Time: 03:03am \/To: ALL (Read 9 times) Subj: Weekly Traffic Report Status report for: UNIX ==================================================== Checked on : Fri Dec 22 03:02:31 1995 ==================================================== Number of nodes : 146 Number of messages : 280 Earliest message : Wed Nov 01 07:00:18 1995 Latest message : Fri Dec 22 00:10:11 1995 Messages per week : 38.6 over 7.2 weeks ---------------------------------------------------- Average msg hops: 6.6 Maximum msg hops: 11 ---------------------------------------------------- Top DOUBLE DIGIT Posters Posts Name Average Size Address ---------------------------------------------------------------------- 88 Lawrence Garvin 1535 1:106/6018 23 John Poltorak 1428 2:250/313 19 Yousuf Khan 2004 1:163/506 19 Barry Pearce 1388 2:252/18.27 10 Walter Vaughan 1247 1:379/4 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Total = 280 by 58 authors. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- --- SendMsg/2 v1.00 --- Squish/386 v1.11 * Origin: Squish Added This Line -- It Didn't Have One Before (1:106/6018)