--------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 176 UNIX Ref: CEE00002 Date: 10/09/95 From: CARY CONOVER Time: 01:59pm \/To: BARRY PEARCE (Read 9 times) Subj: TCP/IP Hi Barry Pearce, hope you are having a nice day 02-Oct-95 23:07:10, Barry Pearce wrote to John Poltorak Subject: TCP/IP >> Well I have mounted Unix directories on my OS/2 server without >> too much bother, but haven't got it working the other way round >> yet? >> When I'm using OS/2 as the client I need to run: >> [c:\]mount -u -g x: sun:/etc >> This works fine, but I can't figure out the Unix command line >> for doing it the other way round. OS/2 or Windows under FAT file systems will work with the / slash when coming from or to them. Which means the same style command line should work to mount that drive. mount ServerName:/remote/directory /local/directory This should work. Let me know how it comes out. 8-) Ŀ > Sincerely Cary Conover --- Terminate 3.00/Pro * Origin: All Saints Health System Point Place (1:124/5026.2) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 176 UNIX Ref: CEE00003 Date: 10/09/95 From: CARY CONOVER Time: 02:59pm \/To: JOEL SUTTON (Read 9 times) Subj: Telnet Hi Joel Sutton, hope you are having a nice day 01-Oct-95 11:30:00, Joel Sutton wrote to Peter Van Schaik Subject: Telnet JS> @MSGID: 3:635/503.3@Fidonet 890b3832 JS> @REPLY: 3:620/243.0 3069d3bd JS> @PID: FM 2.02 JS> Peter, >> Does anyone know a good way to stop a user from telneting? >> We have a user who must be allowed to telnet to our RISC6000 system >> running >> AIX 3.2, but for security reasons they cannot be allowed to telnet from >> our >> system to other systems on our network. Any suggestions? You need to check the Security section of the System Management Guide under Trusted Computing Base Overview 3-7 ... This is the entry that needs editted in the /etc/security/sysck.cfg file. Specifically the mode entry to eliminate the ability for the users below a specific privelage can not execute the file. /usr/bin/telnet: class = inventory,apply,bosnet.tcpip.obj owner = root group = system mode = TCB,SUID,r-xr-xr-x symlinks = /usr/ucb/telnet,/usr/ucb/tn,/usr/ucb/tn3270 type = FILE checksum = "03875 141 " size = 144219 Hope this helps. 8-) Ŀ > Sincerely Cary Conover --- Terminate 3.00/Pro * Origin: All Saints Health System Point Place (1:124/5026.2) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 176 UNIX Ref: CEE00004 Date: 10/09/95 From: CARY CONOVER Time: 05:03pm \/To: JOHN VAN HARE (Read 9 times) Subj: Re: I know nothing about unix\linux Hi John Van Hare, hope you are having a nice day 06-Oct-95 19:52:22, John Van Hare wrote to Shaun Dunmall Subject: Re: I know nothing about unix\linux SD>> SD>> Linux IS a Unix clone, and that's it. SD>> RC> But need it be. Linux at the momment is like a collection of SD>> RC> different pieces of string, what I am suggesting principally is SD>> RC> for a few ends to be tied,( all be it loosely.) JVH> I was considering getting the Linux system to put on a cloneBM system to JVH> play JVH> with. I am fairly new to the Internet, having ground my teeth (the next JVH> step JVH> after cutting them) on DOS based BBS systems. I run a local Fidonet JVH> (NC) and JVH> was looking into setting up an Internet site or gating across the two JVH> nets(Internet & FidoNet) I know others are doing this already, but I JVH> like to JVH> play...hands on you know. It seems from your postings that you are JVH> quite JVH> knowledgeable in this area, so I would like to take some of your time JVH> and ask JVH> some *dumb* questions. First you may want to consider FreeBSD as it is closer to the majority of the systems that you will run into on the internet and be able to get assistance from the hosts that you will be connecting with. JVH> Can I put unix on an ibm clone PC? Big time yes. I have done it with my 486DX33 with good results using Linux. JVH> What ram requirements would I need, With 16 MB RAM you will want to run a very fast hard drive and use a 50 MB partition as your swap partition (cache) UNIX uses this as virtual ram and puts some of the tasks out there. JVH> how much disk space? For LINUX if you do a complete installation with all pieces it will use 160 MB's. This will include X11 code and your gnu and a c code compiler. JVH> Where could I get UNIX install disks, Walnut Creek CD-Rom has a very good slack ware copy of it that will run from the CD freeing up harddrive space. It may be slightly slow though depending on your CD-ROM speeds. JVH> how much JVH> would it JVH> cost? Slackware LINUX is 39.95 for the latest version. FreeBSD 4.4 runs 39.95 from Walnut Creek also. 1-800-786-9907 voice ftp.cdrom.com announymous user and ftp either. I don't know their directories or I would point you there. JVH> What apps are available for UNIX OS? This is something you will have to research. I did not get too much into this area. There are applications that will help with mail like Pine or Elm for email. Also a Mosaic server is possible as well as an FTP sight (built into your software) UUCP comes with it also so you can do newsgroups also. GNU is a good all around word processor from the Freedon Software Foundation. Check them out also they will have allot of good stuff too. JVH> Will all UNIX apps run on LINUX? Usually code comes in the form of C or C++ and you will have to compile it before being able to run it. GNU has a compiler as well as so does LINUX and FreeBSD 4.4 JVH> In general is LINUX a decent OS, or JVH> should I JVH> hold out for the real thing? LINUX is good and so is Free BSD. It is up to you as to who you will want to talk to for assistance. UNIX users in the corporate invironment or UNIX users in a group similar to FIDONET. The first group corporate will be able to assist you with FreeBSD 4.4. The later will be able to help with LINUX. JVH> How expensive would it cost be to put up an JVH> Internet site? This all depends on the access that you want SLIP/PPP. Continuous or dialup as needed. Static IP or Dynamic IP. These all have associated costs. The as you need it dial up with Dynamic will be the least expensive. However to run an FTP site or a WEB site you will need a static IP and a Domain Name. These can be difficult to get. However that all depends on they service provider that you are going to use. I recommend that you shop around and compare prices on this. I have seen prices for service plunging as of late and you will be able to find good deals and better deals as you dig. JVH> Do I have to apply for a site, or is it just a matter of JVH> setting it up, and hooking to the others? Get setup except for your IP info and contact your Provider for this information. JVH> Thanx for your time- JVH> John Hope this helps. Ŀ > Sincerely Cary Conover --- Terminate 3.00/Pro * Origin: All Saints Health System Point Place (1:124/5026.2) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 176 UNIX Ref: CEE00005 Date: 10/09/95 From: LAWRENCE GARVIN Time: 02:29am \/To: PAVEL TKATCHOUK (Read 9 times) Subj: I know nothing about UNIX Pavel Tkatchouk said in a message to All: PT> so I'm planning to install one of the x86 UNIX-clones to my PT> home 486/SX-25, 4MB RAM, 800MB HD (I realize, it's not a great PT> machine to run UNIX but at least capable, or I'm wrong?). A 486sx/25 with 4MB RAM should be sufficient for running a single-user character-interface shell. It will not be sufficient for running an XWindow environment. As a matter of fact, after having run SCO Open Server Release 5 for a couple of months on a 486dx/33 ISA with 20MB RAM and a 486dx2/66 EISA with 16MB RAM I'm of the opinion that anything less than 32MB is marginal for any productive use of the XWindow system; although it is quite sufficient for learning the interface. Note specifically, the problem is with availability of memory -- and not with the speed of the machine. PT> There are numbers of UNIX for different platforms- AIX, HP-UX, PT> Solaris (or it's just a GUI for SUN UNIX, correct me if I'm PT> wrong, my knowledge in this area is limited),SCO UNIX, LINUX, PT> FreeBSD, BSD386, SOLARIS x86, etc. There are multitudes of 'flavors' of Unix -- you've listed all of the major players above. The GUI, however, is pretty much standardized now. It's based on the Motif Window Manager developed by the Open Software Foundation. An older system, called OpenWindows, based on the Open Look Window Manager, may be found on older SunOS v4.1 and earlier systems. PT> My questions are: PT> 1. Who is the leader in the world of "big UNIX guys" (Solaris? PT> AIX?)? This question has various answers depending on how you define 'leader'. SCO has the largest market share of Intel-based Unix systems; however, I'd venture to say that in terms of most large-server Unix platforms, Sun is undoubtely the leader in that category. PT> 1.1. For which platform it's available (HP, SGI, SUN, PT> RS-6000,...)? Any and all. I believe it's safe to say that there are NO contemporary platforms for which one cannot find at least one implementation of Unix. PT> 1.2. It's pluses and minuses in compare to the rest of the PT> "big's"? There are volumes and volumes of books written on this subject. :) It's biggest pluses, IMO, are that it's stable, powerful, very rich in productivity and programming tools, it's well supported throughout the world, it's multiuser, multitasking, and multithreaded, and as previously mentioned, works on every contemporary hardware platform in existence. If it has any 'big' disadvantage, it would be that it requires a large breadth of knowledge to properly maintain a multiuser system -- a single user system is a bit more forgiving, and companies such as SCO are making administration tools easier with each release. Still, there is much to know conceptually, even if we've finally been able to abandon the command line/text editor mode of administration. PT> 1.3. Any idea who will survive? All of the big players -- Sun, SCO, IBM, HP, Digital, Linux (in the form of it's various distribution organizations). PT> 2. Is it possible to get comparative analysis of NON-COMMERCIAL PT> X86 UNIX's in terms of: We can certainly try. :) PT> 2.1. Who is the leader (LINUX?) and why? Yes -- because they's the ones with the mostest, although it's arguable that FreeBSD is an equivalent product in quality. Alas, it's been much less strongly marketed -- and certainly received much less hype. PT> 2.2. Closest relative of each clone (i.e. LINUX-System V, PT> FreeBSD-BSD ver?.? or whatever)? Perhaps, may be there are few PT> different "small brothers" for some of big guys. All Unix 'clones' basically derive from either the AT&T flavor, or the BSD flavor (which is actually a stepchild of the AT&T flavor). The BSD flavor, though, has all but died, except in the FreeBSD product, and some releases of Linus products. Sun was the last great holdout in BSD-type systems, but they convered to SVR4 (nee AT&T flavor) with the release of Solaris 2. PT> 2.3. Which is the easiest to install? They get easier as they get newer. I daresay nothing can touch the SCO OpenServer Release 5 on CDROM for ease of installation though. PT> 2.4. Which is the most stable, reliable? Hmmm.... they all crash sooner or later.... although the SCO OSR5 has not yet crashed in the two months I've had it installed. Then again, my SCO OSR3 has never crashed either in the ten months that it's been installed. OTOH, my SunOS v4.1 system has crashed a couple of times in the past year (attributable, though, I think, to a buggy release of an HP OpenView addon module, which has since been upgraded again). PT> 2.5. Which has more applications ported from "big world" (may PT> be there even exist ported Oracle, Sybase, Ingres?)? I'd say it's a tossup between SCO and SunOS/Solaris. PT> 2.6. Which has more supported peripherals? No doubt, SCO. They now publish an 80-page "Hardware Compatibility Handbook" with their product that lists every type of hardware. PT> 2.7. Which has the best C++ compiler capable develop apps PT> for X-Windows GUI? As far as applications development and compilers, I believe it's the GNU products that are the most widespread. Most Unix vendors aren't even shipping development kits with their base products anymore. SCO never has. PT> 2.8. Who will survive? No doubt, GNU products will. They're free and well written, and a de facto industry standard due to their wide range of platform availability. PT> 2.9. Which one will allow easiest migration from "home" UNIX PT> to "corporate" UNIX (is it always right that shortest way is PT> between closest relatives?)? "Home" UNIX is a misconception, IMO. There are some who are running Unix on machines at home, but in almost every case there's an underlying motivation that has it's roots in a commercial issue -- with the exception of those running it purely for the hobby/exploration angle. I'm not aware of anybody using Unix as the OS of choice for their 'family computer'. PT> I realize there is no one simple opinion about this matter PT> so any help would be really appreciated. And hopefully you'll receive differing viewpoints from mine that you may make a more informed decision. Mine is but one of a million in a sea of a million valid viewpoints. lawrence@garvin.hd.co.harris.tx.us --- * Origin: My Mail Point * Houston, Texas * (1:106/6018) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 176 UNIX Ref: CEE00006 Date: 10/09/95 From: LAWRENCE GARVIN Time: 02:57am \/To: BARRY PEARCE (Read 9 times) Subj: broken feed/link... Phillip Barker said in a message to Barry Pearce: PB> Hi Barry.... BP| > BTW has nearly everyone else left this echo? It seems to have BP| > gone very quiet of late. BP| hmm. not sure...looks like the states link is down...I hope that guy BP| didnt [...] Lawrence's feed... PB> FWIW, I have no evidence of a broken link as I've received PB> yr msgs here in Oregon. Cheers! ........Phillip Barker Well, I didn't receive your original reply, Barry, but I am getting traffic from you on other threads. As for the traffic in general, check the weekly reports that are posted from here every Friday morning and verify that my counts are what your counts are. If ever you don't receive that Weekly Echomail Report, that would be a reasonable indication that something is broke. lawrence@garvin.hd.co.harris.tx.us --- * Origin: My Mail Point * Houston, Texas * (1:106/6018) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 176 UNIX Ref: CEE00007 Date: 10/09/95 From: HARALDS JAKOVELS Time: 03:39pm \/To: JOEL SUTTON (Read 9 times) Subj: Telnet Hello Joel! 01 Oct 95 11:30, Joel Sutton wrote to Peter Van Schaik: >> Does anyone know a good way to stop a user from telneting? >> We have a user who must be allowed to telnet to our RISC6000 >> system running AIX 3.2, but for security reasons they cannot >> be allowed to telnet from our system to other systems on our >> network. Any suggestions? JS> Perhaps you could use permissions and groups to restrict access JS> to the telnet software on the RISC? That way they can telnet in, JS> but they don't have a telnet client to run of the RISC. umm... anyway, that guy can copy his own telnet client... the best way is chroot'ed account with no ftp and telnet available, imho... another way without chroot'ing is to disable /etc/services and /etc/protocols for this user, he won't be able to do anything with network at all :) ('cept telnet in)... Haralds 09 Oct 95 - 15:39 --- GoldED/386 2.50.B0822+  Joel Sutton * Origin: The Evil Spirit (2:5100/21) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 176 UNIX Ref: CEF00000 Date: 10/09/95 From: ROB WEHRLI Time: 07:11pm \/To: PHILLIP BARKER (Read 9 times) Subj: BROKEN FEED/LINK... On 7 Oct 95 08:59pm, Phillip Barker wrote to Barry Pearce: PB> Hi Barry.... PB> BP| > BTW has nearly everyone else left this echo? It seems to have PB> BP| > gone very quiet of late. PB> BP| hmm. not sure...looks like the states link is down...I hope that PB> guy didnt BP| Lawrence's feed... PB> FWIW, I have no evidence of a broken link as I've received yr msgs here PB> in Oregon. Cheers! ........Phillip Barker PB> * SLMR 2.1 * Kernel Panic: /dev/coffee.pot not found. Sorry...I have nothing constructive to say...but did you read Matt Welsh's Writing Man pages using groff in Linux Journal? (Oct 95, pgs 18-21) It documents a "device" that controls a remote coffee machine. I had to laugh... the "bugs" state...may require human intervention if coffee supply is exhausted. Worth a quick look at any rate :) Rob! Rob's Wanna BBS 204.188.89.18 56k Internet Access 24 Hours LIVE ... Please weight...Spell Checker at work. * Silver Xpress V4.01 SW22963 --- Synchronet+SBBSecho v1.00 * Origin: Rob's Wanna BBS (808) 739-2682 Honolulu, HI (1:345/38) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 176 UNIX Ref: CEF00001 Date: 10/09/95 From: ROB WEHRLI Time: 07:11pm \/To: JOHN VAN HARE (Read 9 times) Subj: I KNOW NOTHING ABOUT On 6 Oct 95 07:52pm, John Van Hare wrote to Shaun Dunmall: Hope you don't mind me jumping in here uninvited like this... SD>> RC> for a few ends to be tied,( all be it loosely.) JV> I was considering getting the Linux system to put on a cloneBM system JV> to play with. I am fairly new to the Internet, having ground my teeth JV> (the next step after cutting them) on DOS based BBS systems. I run a JV> local Fidonet (NC) and was looking into setting up an Internet site or JV> gating across the two nets(Internet & FidoNet) I know others are doing JV> this already, but I like to play...hands on you know. It seems from JV> your postings that you are quite knowledgeable in this area, so I would JV> like to take some of your time and ask some *dumb* questions. JV> Can I put unix on an ibm clone PC? What ram requirements would I need, There are several different flavors of unix available for the x86, including Linux, SCO Unix, Solaris, NextStep, BSD and many more....so, basically, yes. Ram is a relative thing. You'll need enough to boot the OS, service processes and system / user requirements and a decent amount of swap space for those intensive days. For Linux, I'd recommend a minimum of 8mb and a 386-33 or better...with at least 400mb of drive space for Linux itself and user space...more if you have it...a lot more if you have it and wanna run X. JV> how much disk space? Where could I get UNIX install disks, how much Linux is readily available on many different CDROM distributions. I've got probably 20 or 30 of them, many which are useless to me now as Linux (as stated by Shaun) is constantly undergoing changes. I highly recommend two distributions, but I think that just about any one of the ones I've seen are just as workable...but possibly not as new-user easy? I dunno. My favs are Slakware and the Caldera Network Desktop. I buy the un-official slakware distro from InfoMagic at $25 for a 4 cd set...which is as cheap as cheap comes IMHO. (I went a step further and bought the subscription, which is 6 releases when they're out for $150, but it was only after I bought the initial set that I went all out on it :) JV> would it cost? What apps are available for UNIX OS? There are probably around 8,000 applications available or easily compiled under Linux (and the others, too) of course, my numbers are just a rough estimate from my numerous hunting trips. Most of these applications won't impress you if you're used to Windows, except in their ruggedness. Even most of the X applications lack the lustre of a well-designed Win app...gad! I'd hate to think I said that...If you're interested in running the GUI, then I'd use the traditional GUI <-> hardware approach...buy / use more of everything to support the overhead it imposes. Bigger drives, more memory, faster processor....big tires with raised white lettering... JV> Will all UNIX apps run on LINUX? Kinda...if you have the source code and the inclination...you can port just about anything to anything else...but the answer I think you're looking for is that no, not all Unix apps will run on Linux. Many will or have been ported to Linux...many are being ported to Linux, many will never be ported to Linux...probably due more to copyright restrictions and ownership rather than an ability to be ran on a Linux machine. However, there are many 'happenings' in Linux. Linux is evolving at a rapid pace and without a body of direction that some feel is needed. However, it also isn't limited by what others think such a body would impose...so really it is sorta a rough and tumble bronc ride that is going everywhere fast. I stay about 3 months behind on kernels, but read everyday my newsgroup messages as to what happened that particular day with Linux. I'm developing a rather large Linux presence and its direction is of definite interest to me. I'm not terribly inclined to jump into the ring with the bronc, but once you find a saddle and get on...it's hard not to think that you might just be able to ride the horse out of the corral? (Use Linux to complete your goals) In general is LINUX a decent OS, or I am a Linux Activist, so my opinions maybe considered biased by others. Linux is a decent OS. It is a decent OS under construction. Like all construction sites, there is a bit of dirt...there is a bit of finished work, and there is a bunch of stuff that needs to be done. At every construction project completed, there is always someone who can walk in and say that this beam doesn't butt up against that beam just perfectly...or that this corner isn't exactly square...and so is Linux in every state it has been release in. There are very stable versions of it...and there are entirely volatile "developer's versions" of it. Each version 'threatens' to be much better than the previous attempts. What it boils down to is that Linux (in the stable versions) is a very decent operating system. There are many other very decent operating systems, too...but, I would recommend Linux wholeheartedly to just about anyone interested in exploring the power of Unix. (I'd recommend SCO or BSD, too! I'd recommend SunOS, HP-UX, AIX and Solaris, too...but some of these aren't available at such a low cost, or for the x86 at all...) JV> should I hold out for the real thing? Yeah. You should always wait until the very last moment...that way the technology train will have gained enough steam that it will be impossible to slow down, so that the engineers won't have any regrets about not trying to stop. "Another carcass...anyone seen the 409?" :) Seriously, my advice is to use the stable kernel versions, keep away from the development pieces unless you have time and patience to kill...or a special interest in it, and use the stable versions to your best ability. As will all unix products, it is a powerful operating system (I prefer to say environment, but then folks think you're talking about an interface) that should be used by all who can make use of its capabilities. Linux is an excellent tool for learning more about Unix. How expensive would it cost be to JV> put up an Internet site? The sky is truly the limit here....it depends mostly on where you are located and the cost of local access, the method and bandwidth of your access and the number and type of users you intend to support. Traditionally, providing robust Internet access services is hardware intensive. Cost escalation (even though the general cost per item is going down, down, down) is a real happening at our site. I started with the intention to spend about $5k or so, plus the 40k or so I had in equipment to make it happen. My eyes opened as I wrote check after check to cover various costs. Finally, I closed my eyes and invited everyone to a "here's my ATM-pin" party. However, more relevant to your question...I've been building turn-key Internet boxes with Linux and a web server / home page for business, including a 28.8 modem and labor for $3.5k plus the 24 hour modem (ppp) connection. The boxes are nothing special, a 1 gig scsi, 486-66 with 16mb and a 4x cdrom drive...so much of the cost is in labor, which is fairly substantial especially when you consider the effort required to make such a sale. There doesn't seem to be many providers willing to work with clients at the ground level. Do I have to apply for a site, or is it just You have to apply for a site name(s) as you need them. You'll find that addressing is usually provided by your Internet Service Provider (ISP), but Domain Name registration is provided by the InterNIC. JV> a matter of setting it up, and hooking to the others? JV> Thanx for your time- JV> John There are MANY many mannnnny challenges in building a connected site. The least of which isn't how much money you'll spend. My recommendation is to start small with the number of users you have now, add Internet mail and newsgroups until you can support a live feed _and_ have had time to learn more about the Internet and whichever unix (or other) software you use to make your connection. By all means...start by getting a local dialup access account of your own. As you become connected, you'll learn more about what it takes to connect others. It really isn't too difficult, but the road isn't paved and marked very clearly, cuz there are just too many ways to do it...that no one way is "perfect" for anyone. If you ever need any information, I usually will offer whatever I can to help. Hope this incredibly long reply helps in some small way... Rob! Rob's Wanna BBS Hawaii's Home of Linux Users 204.188.89.18 ... The best equipment for your work is, of course, the most expensive. * Silver Xpress V4.01 SW22963 --- Synchronet+SBBSecho v1.00 * Origin: Rob's Wanna BBS (808) 739-2682 Honolulu, HI (1:345/38) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 176 UNIX Ref: CEG00001 Date: 10/10/95 From: ROB WEHRLI Time: 10:38pm \/To: PATRICK WOLF (Read 9 times) Subj: WHY NOT USE A LINUX U On 9 Oct 95 11:32pm, Patrick Wolf wrote to All: PW> Far be it from me to claim that I am a Unix guru, PW> but why the hell is there so much discussion about Linux... PW> There happens to be other newsgroups that address Linux specifically... PW> I thought this was a place for good Unix questions... PW> -Patrick... PW> (who is not a Unix virgin) Well...I guess that it sorta goes back to if you have a basket for Red Apples, and a basket for Apples, which does one place one's apple? Either is at least as appropriate in the sense of a Unix discussion. Because Linux has its own basket doesn't make it a non-apple. You're right though. Most Linux specific discussions should be maintained in that echo...and most are so kept. Others may not have the Linux feed? Even if they do, they may have seen the Unix area messages as a place where a reference to Linux could be useful? Who really knows. Apparently you care. Tell 'em to get lost :) Rob! (Who is something of a Unix 'ho) Rob's Wanna BBS 808-737-2665 to 28.8 -or- 204.188.89.18 to 56k ... Birth, school, work, death. About sums it up, I think. * Silver Xpress V4.01 SW22963 --- Synchronet+SBBSecho v1.00 * Origin: Rob's Wanna BBS (808) 739-2682 Honolulu, HI (1:345/38) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 176 UNIX Ref: CEG00002 Date: 10/10/95 From: ROB WEHRLI Time: 10:38pm \/To: TERRY GOODE (Read 9 times) Subj: TAR? On 10 Oct 95 04:09pm, Terry Goode wrote to All: TG> any one out there ever "untar" a file from machine(a) over an ethernet TG> to a maching(b),where the untared files ended up on machine(b) and TG> still left the tared file on machine(a)?,and if so HOW? TG> samples are welcome--heheh TG> terry g. TG> and thanks for all the other examples you guys have geiven me "just in TG> case " i never thanked you-all. Do answers with NFS mounts count? Rob! Rob's Wanna BBS 23 CDs - 30gigs Hard Disks - 204.188.89.18 - 808-737-2665 ... Typical Bill Gates reprimand: "That code is ORIGINAL!" * Silver Xpress V4.01 SW22963 --- Synchronet+SBBSecho v1.00 * Origin: Rob's Wanna BBS (808) 739-2682 Honolulu, HI (1:345/38)