--------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 176 UNIX Ref: CDP00005 Date: 09/17/95 From: SHELDON HILDEBRAND Time: 09:16pm \/To: ALL (Read 10 times) Subj: Computer For Sale For Sale, 1 AT&T Unix computer with 67 meg harddrive. Works fine, monochrome monitor, Unix v3.5, and an internal 1200 baud modem (I think). Comes with most of the system manuals as well as an extra UNIX guide book. I will consider any offer. If interested, give me a call at 1-306-945-2061. --- * Origin: The Edge:Your Gaming BBS 306-382-7049, 7039, 7038 (1:140/122) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 176 UNIX Ref: CDP00006 Date: 09/18/95 From: OSCAR BAL Time: 10:29pm \/To: ALL (Read 9 times) Subj: UNIX <-> Novell network connection Hi All! At this moment I am busy with setting up a UNIX Internet-server, connected with a Novell 3.12 Local Area Network. On this network , several standard DOS- and Windows applications are installed for the users. The workstations of this network all have a workstation number, which is also the login name for the user, that is logging in on the network. The users (students of The Hague polytechnic) are not individually known to the system. On the UNIX-system of course all users have an own account. In this project the UNIX server is connected via a router to the Novell-network, and we want to use the workstations of the LAN to run DOS or Windows client-applications like a mail-client, a WWW-client (Netscape), etc. For some of the clients it is not necessary to identify the user, for some clients it is (Mail- and newsclient). We don't want our users to permit a telnet-login on the server, from a point of security. My question: I want the users to identify themselves once to the UNIX-server at the start of a session and then only allow them access via the client-applications, which are actually running on the workstation PC as a DOS or Windows application. Is this possible and which programs should I use? Kind regards, Oscar sysop InfoTechniek BBS --- GEcho 1.00 * Origin: Sysop InfoTechniek BBS, The Hague, The Netherlands (2:281/914.1) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 176 UNIX Ref: CDQ00000 Date: 09/17/95 From: THOMAS PETROCELLI Time: 08:34am \/To: GREG MARSHALL (Read 9 times) Subj: Re: Linux TO:Greg Marshall DATE: 09-09-95 01:06 GM> I am thinking of trying out Linux. Does anyone have any advice? GM> Such as how to avoid compatibility problems with CD-ROM, GM> printer(BJ-200e) and soundblaster card. Perhaps a good book good be GM> recommended? I was looking at "LINUX Unleashed", which comes with a GM> copy of Linux on CD... any suggestions would be appreciated. thanks... GM> -!- GM> ! Origin: The TERMINAL BBS (403)327-9731 Lethbridge,AB,Canada GM> (1:358/1) I had LINUX running on an old 486 and it ran like a charm. I installed it from a CD ROM and had no compatibility problems. In fact, the hardest thing was getting LINUX off my hard drive. It installed the boot strap loader in a place that I had a very hard time getting to. It was almost like a virus. In the end I had to repartition the hard drive with the /msb setting. Nasty. ... Help stamp out philately! ___ Blue Wave/QWK v2.12 --- WILDMAIL!/WC v4.12 * Origin: The Buffalo IBM-PC User Group (1:260/110.0) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 176 UNIX Ref: CDQ00001 Date: 09/19/95 From: NEETI RAY Time: 02:01pm \/To: LAWRENCE GARVIN (Read 9 times) Subj: Which mail to use? Lawrence, LG>* Reply to a message in PERS6018. LG> LG>Neeti Ray said in a message to Lawrence Garvin: LG> LG>LG>And are these domains issued to a -Canadian- corporation and a -Canadian- LG>LG>network service, or are they U.S. systems providing services in Canada? LG> LG>NR> There are plenty of Canadian site's w/ .org, .net or .com, like LG>NR> io.org, hookup.net, inforamp.com, idirect.com etc, all ISP's. LG>NR> Oddly enough, there's a uu.north.net (Canadian) and a LG>NR> uu.net.ca . LG> LG>Interesting. LG> LG>Oh well, email to Canada really wouldn't be a concern anyway. Following up on this (yes, I know this is old). Just read a report that there .com domains in *54* coiuntries, .net domains in *57* countries, .org in 27 and .edu in 16. So much for limiting email to the US :). The reports were done by a couple of Net consulting firms, and can be read on www.nw.com & www.tic.com . Kin Lau (gabe@io.org) --- * UniQWK v3.3a* The Solution for Multilingual Messages --- QScan/PCB v1.17b / 01-0348 * Origin: FidoNet: CRS Online, Toronto, Ontario (1:229/15) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 176 UNIX Ref: CDQ00002 Date: 09/06/95 From: IAIN HIBBERT Time: 10:39pm \/To: ALL (Read 9 times) Subj: Re: TAR From: plunky@skate.demon.co.uk (Iain Hibbert) John Poltorak writes: > The basic stuff like 'tar x' and 'tar c' is simple enough, but tar has options > such as 'tar --generation i' and tons of other parameters. I just wish their was > a book of handy hints and tips which would let you get the most out of tar. One > of the things I have problems with is trying to extract particular files or > subdirectories from an archive. I'm sure there are ways of specifying this, but > I have difficulty working it out. yeah, I know what you mean - I generally end up making a small tar file with some interesting files on it and trying to extract the buggers.. it sure beats sitting there and waiting while the tape streams back and forth :) why not write the book! -- ]ain --- ifmail v.2.8c * Origin: The Bath Room (2:250/320.33@fidonet) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 176 UNIX Ref: CDQ00003 Date: 09/10/95 From: MIKE JAGDIS Time: 09:39pm \/To: RICHARD CONYARD (Read 9 times) Subj: Re: I know nothing about unix\linux RC> Such as RC> above, Linux/68k, Sparc, and Alpha,( why this I don't know RC> isn't it packaged with a proprietory Unix already?). Depends what you buy of course. You can buy ISA/PCI Alpha motherboards for instance. RC> - Realising that it is a Single user system and RC> optimising. Huh? Even Windows is showing signs of recognising that multi user, network capabilities are vital if only to allow remote administration of local resources. RC> - Becoming Linux and not a Unix clone. Huh? Linux is a POSIX OS. Unix is a POSIX OS. OpenVMS is a POSIX OS. Hell, MVS is a POSIX wannabe :-). (Actually Unix is a group of OS', some with a common base, which have similar basic functionality but which span the complete range of systems from embedded controllers to parallel supercomputers). MS is, of course, out on its own but wants to convince us that we don't ever need anything more than a single desktop system... RC> - Removing the user completly from the Linux command Do it. There are *many* ways you could use Unix/Linux without exposing users to the command line. The traditional market for low end Unix systems is admin and accounting where users only ever see the relevant data entry screens. Just because the power is there doesn't mean you *have* to use. It's just nice to have when you need it :-). RC> - Consentraiting on both the strengths of itself and RC> the PC rather than trying to emulate a Workstation. "The strengths of [...] the PC"??? The typical PC required to run '95 and do your WP is in a higher class than workstations where just 5 years ago. Chances are you already *have* workstation class hardware - you just have, to coin a phrase, "shit for brains" :-). Mike --- * Origin: The Purple Tentacle +44 1734 266974 (2:252/305) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 176 UNIX Ref: CDQ00004 Date: 09/12/95 From: RICHARD CONYARD Time: 06:59pm \/To: ALL (Read 9 times) Subj: Unix utils under DOS Hi, Does anyone here know of any set of Unix utils that have been ported to DOS. Principally I'm interest in the more useful ones such as 'less'. Any Ideas. Richard. ... Open mouth, insert foot, echo internationally. --- Blue Wave/RA v2.12 [NR] * Origin: Pacific Lightning - Maidstone Kent (2:440/7) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 176 UNIX Ref: CDQ00005 Date: 09/20/95 From: TERRY GOODE Time: 11:44am \/To: BOB HOLIDAY (Read 9 times) Subj: Re: Defrag TG> except on a sparc using 1.1.2 or 4.1.4 . there TG> is no way to back up the TG> complete sys and reload as far as i know TG> "and" have it run. terry g. BH> Sure you can, Terry. All you have to do is restore the boot block. MIND expanding on this little tid-bit,i have wanted to do somthing like this for a while,save's on carrying a cd to reload the system. terry g. --- Maximus 2.01wb * Origin: THE GOLDEN COCO other's COMPUTER (1:106/941) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 176 UNIX Ref: CDQ00006 Date: 09/13/95 From: MARIO CAMILLERI Time: 07:26pm \/To: GREGORY WAYNE BREWER (Read 9 times) Subj: SHED A LITTLE LIGHT PLEAS @1:106/4100 QUOTE: Gregory Wayne (08-24-95 17:50) to David Reaves GW> Well if 2 files are on the same day more than a year ago, I might GW> want to know which is the most recent. I should have thought someone on this conference would have come up with the obvious answer ages ago, but since noone seems to have bothered, here's my dime's worth. You can always use the -t switch to list files in descending order of time/date of last file modification (add -u for sorting by time/date of last access). Oh, and _man ls_ should tell you all this and more ;-> Regards and DDAIWD mcam. ___ CMPQwk 1.42-R2 2101 How can I RTFM if I don't have the FM? * Origin: * Brought To You By The Gossip-Column.. [Malta] * (2:520/10) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 176 UNIX Ref: CDQ00007 Date: 09/13/95 From: RICHARD CONYARD Time: 10:36am \/To: MIKE JAGDIS (Read 9 times) Subj: Re: I know nothing about unix\linux Hi, REGARDING: RC> Such as RC> above, Linux/68k, Sparc, and Alpha,( why this I don't know RC> isn't it packaged with a proprietory Unix already?). MJ> Depends what you buy of course. You can buy ISA/PCI Alpha motherboards MJ> for instance. You really answered this looking to argue didn't you, I do not know enough about the Alpha to comment thus the ? . MJ> Huh? Even Windows is showing signs of recognising that multi user, MJ> network capabilities are vital if only to allow remote administration MJ> of local resources. You seem to confuse multiuser systems with networked systems. A TCP/IP box would be great, and as for remote configeration it wouldn't be to hard to use to existing TCP/IP sockets to allow remote configeration, since Netscape is unlikely to be run on such a system, perhaphs the secondary http port that netscape uses at 93, or along that vein. However in the majority of cases there will be one person to one computer relationship, also in a majority of cases the user will be using an inferior OS, such as Win95 or OS/2 warp. Given this making best use of this relationship would ensure for those users the chance to use something decent and above all something that wouldn't put dollars into Bills pocket. MJ> Huh? Linux is a POSIX OS. Unix is a POSIX OS. OpenVMS is a POSIX OS. Read the title of the echo and look at what both industry and non-industry people know the name of, I thank you. I don't need this. I merly placed the start of a future where people are freed from the shackles that are the market stratagies of large firms. If stating that I have "Shit for brains" gives you a thrill then please do so to your hearts content, but I would suggest through netmail since I'm sure that such profanity is not needed in here. If you wish to argue about minor mistakes,( some intentional ) then please do. However what I would really like is for you to sit back and read that which I wrote again, think about it in the context to which I have placed it and then write a reply to all picking on valid points and suggesting a better way in which those of us educated and lucky enough to have a choice can bring the power of these tools that we take for granted to the 95+ percent of computer users still struggling. Richard. --- Blue Wave/RA v2.12 [NR] * Origin: Pacific Lightning - Maidstone Kent (2:440/7)