--------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 175 GUITAR Ref: F1R00004 Date: 01/21/98 From: LEE MACMILLAN Time: 07:41pm \/To: MARK VANSICKLE (Read 0 times) Subj: Rca >BR>If we went that route almost everything would have to be >BR>renamed. Everybody has screwed everybody at some point. >I don't buy that. I would've remembered Michelle Pfeiffer or >Senta >Berger.. Senta Berger?! Now I know you're an old fart. She was quite the fox in her day. Wonder if she liked guitar players? --- Michiana Mail Center * Origin: CW Technical Support - South Bend, IN - (219) 272-8129 (1:227/129) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 175 GUITAR Ref: F1R00005 Date: 01/21/98 From: MICHAEL MCSORLEY Time: 12:29pm \/To: JIM MILLER (Read 0 times) Subj: Sound in the fingers This is what Jim had to say to Michael regarding Sound in the fingers... MM> The Fender he played on had a bit to do with it as well... Isn't MM> it true that he knocked the frets off of it to make it fretless? JM> Pulled the frets out and coated the neck with epoxy. To fill in the cracks, eh? Interesting... JM> My favorites will always be "Donna Lee" and "Teen Town." Where would I hear these? ... Anybody can become President, and I sure believe it. --- GEcho 1.11+ * Origin: The Music Room, Memphis TN (901) 452-2134 (1:123/38) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 175 GUITAR Ref: F1S00000 Date: 01/21/98 From: TOM ENGLE Time: 08:30am \/To: GARY GILMORE (Read 0 times) Subj: Marshall acoustic Soloist Hello Gary! GG> cut us early, and tomorrow we're not in until 10am. (Luxury!) I go in at 10 am every day....;) Tom --- GoldED 2.40 * Origin: Tom's Place (1:218/704.3) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 175 GUITAR Ref: F1S00001 Date: 01/21/98 From: TOM ENGLE Time: 08:33am \/To: AL THOMPSON (Read 0 times) Subj: Seagulls Hello Al! TE>> Well...you know I would rather have my sister in a whore house than TE>> my brother in a country band.....;) AT> At least those in the whorehouse take a principled stand and admit what AT> they are. Can I get an Amen!!!! Tom --- GoldED 2.40 * Origin: Tom's Place (1:218/704.3) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 175 GUITAR Ref: F1S00002 Date: 01/21/98 From: RICH LOCKYER Time: 10:48pm \/To: TOM SCIOSCIA (Read 0 times) Subj: Marshall Madness Hello Tom! On 21 Jan 98, Tom Scioscia wrote to Rich Lockyer: TS> First, I'd like to tell you guys that the project's canceled. TS> That's because I'm getting a REAL Blackface Dual Showman! The exact one TS> that I played through and fell in love with!!! My dad said that he's going TS> to get it for me. :) Cool. TS> Besides, I have the schematic. Just looked at TS> it, and it has 6L6s, not 6V6s. I'd be safe, either way. The 6L6s are being TS> run at 460V on the plate and 458V on the grid. Am I to assume that this is TS> within the safe range for 6L6GCs? And I shouldn't have any problem popping TS> Ruby Tubes, Svetlana, Sovtek 6L6s I don't have the specs for the 6L6 handy... I'll check tonight if I log on the web. TS> or maybe this mystical Golden Dragon TS> KT66 (if it is indeed for real). I don't know if a KT66 is a drop-in replacement for a 6L6 or not. TS> Besides, what I meant about TS> running it a bit hot is very slightly above the norm for a pristinely TS> clean specific amp. The bias sets your actual potential difference between the plate and the cathode. If the potential is too high, the tube will arc internally. TS> But I thought that it was mainly Silverfaces that were TS> insane on the plate voltage. If so, I was safer (if not safe) being that I TS> was going to build to the Blackface spec. This is true. TS> Why didn't the Russians and Chinese realize this? They know, but the tubes' published specs are ###v, so they built to meet those specs. Building to exceed the published specs would increase the cost. TS> Aren't amplifiers TS> at least half, if not most, of the market for these specific tubes? These tubes are used in amplifiers *probably* 100%... however, not all amplifier users desire distortion or run high plate voltages. Many audiophile amps run plate voltages that could smoke the best tubes made in the '50s, but they are biased so "cold" to prevent distortion that it's not a problem. All current guitar and bass amps run voltages which are within these ratings... Fender was one of the few companies that went nuts with the B+ level, and that represents a comparatively small portion of the market. TS> How TS> does $17.50 each for JAN GE 6V6s and $18.75 each for JAN Phillips sound? I TS> know I'm going to have 6L6s, but just wondering. No idea... I haven't been pricing tubes lately (especially not NOS), but I would probably drive to Phoenix and buy from AES if I were looking for NOS tubes. I trust them, and don't trust shipping tubes. Those prices sound close to what Jeff paid for some tubes last year, but I don't recall if they were 6V6 or EL84. TS> them listed for. BTW, I'm not sure what the amp has in it already, but TS> what do you think would give me the warmest tone for preamp tubes, the TS> 7025, 12AX7, or 12AT7? The original schematic has all three in the TS> circuit, but two 7025s in the inputs, one to drive the reverb, a 12AT7 TS> recovering the reverb, a 12AT7 as the phase inverter, and a 12AX7 in the TS> vibrato. The 12AT7 is a low-gain version of the 12AX7. The 7025 is basically a 12AX7. TS> Also, I would assume that the 7 diodes connected to the 340VAC TS> tap on the power transformer is the rectifier. 7 diodes? It's usually 4, connected as follows: _____________\___\__________ To Filter _____ | | ( / / | ) | | ( | ) | | (_______ | ) | | ( _|_ | _____) | | ( - | | | (_____________\____\____| / / Again though, I'm not familiar with Showman... I'd have to see the print. TS> And the 6.3VAC is a common TS> source to the heaters on all the power tubes? All of the tubes. The 12A?7 series are 12v heaters, but the heaters are center tapped, so you tie 6.3 to the center and each end to light the whole thing. C-ya! Rich --- GoldED 2.40 * Origin: Hiroshima '45 Chernobyl '86 Windows '97 (1:218/704) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 175 GUITAR Ref: F1S00003 Date: 01/21/98 From: RICH LOCKYER Time: 11:05pm \/To: AL THOMPSON (Read 0 times) Subj: Marshall Madness Hello Al! On 20 Jan 98, Al Thompson wrote to Rich Lockyer: AT> I recently bought the first tube Fender I've had in 20 years - a AT> silverface (73) Champ. I never had trouble back then getting tubes, and AT> hadn't considered the possibility that it would be a problem now. AT> Any hints? I would check with AES. Talk to Jim and tell him that Lefty Jeff from Philly and Micro-amp-signal-tech Rich from California referred you. AT> I haven't found any mods for the Champs. The zener on the center tap is reputed (in A.G.A.) to work well for reducing the B+ level, though it does affect the bias supply level by the same amount IF the bias supply is tapped from the main HV taps. AT> I'm also looking for an original speaker. Someone put a University 8" n AT> it, and I'd rather have one a little more stock. Unfortunately, there AT> aren't many sources for good 8" speakers. (grin) Again, try AES, but I think the only 8 they carry is a Kendrick, and Jim does not recommend them. Also check with a Mojo dealer. C-ya! Rich --- GoldED 2.40 * Origin: Hiroshima '45 Chernobyl '86 Windows '97 (1:218/704) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 175 GUITAR Ref: F1S00004 Date: 01/21/98 From: RICH LOCKYER Time: 11:22pm \/To: TOM SCIOSCIA (Read 0 times) Subj: Marshall Madness Hello Tom! On 21 Jan 98, Tom Scioscia wrote to Rich Lockyer: TS> it, and it has 6L6s, not 6V6s. I'd be safe, either way. The 6L6s are being TS> run at 460V on the plate and 458V on the grid. Am I to assume that this is TS> within the safe range for 6L6GCs? The 6L6GC design spec is for 500 plate and 450 screen. This gives a total dissipation of 30 watts per tube. The 6L6 is significantly lower. C-ya! Rich --- GoldED 2.40 * Origin: Hiroshima '45 Chernobyl '86 Windows '97 (1:218/704) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 175 GUITAR Ref: F1S00005 Date: 01/22/98 From: MARK CARRIG Time: 09:41am \/To: PAUL WHITEMAN (Read 0 times) Subj: Amps Hi Paul... Goof point about us playing thru anything as long as it's free !!! My current rig is a mid-60's blackface Bassman, think it's around 30 or so watts, possibly 50, thru a 3x10 Kustom black "tuck n roll" cab. believe it or not, it sounds fantastic... Then again, it's doctored up with a power soak to choke the volumn down so those CTS speakers can handle it, plus a bit of delay thrown at it, but truthfully, I reallu LIKE the sound of this rig... And that's comparing it to my 68 Marshall 50 plexi head, thu a 4x12 Ampeg V2 cab loaded out with Celestians !!! Go figure !!! --- GEcho 1.11+ * Origin: The Music Room, Memphis TN (901) 452-2134 (1:123/38) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 175 GUITAR Ref: F1S00006 Date: 01/21/98 From: JEFF VINEBURG Time: 01:24pm \/To: GARY GILMORE (Read 0 times) Subj: Tour? >The band? Insane Clown Posse. BAHAHAHAHA.... you kill me, Gilmore. what... 3 mics and a dj mixer to do `sound'? * SLMR 2.1a * Pining for the Fiords? --- Maximus 3.01 * Origin: Nuclear Fish BBS - go ahead - TRY to call us. (1:2614/705) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 175 GUITAR Ref: F1S00007 Date: 01/22/98 From: JEFF VINEBURG Time: 03:00pm \/To: AL THOMPSON (Read 0 times) Subj: Re: Marshall Madness AT>I recently bought the first tube Fender I've had in 20 >years - a silverface (73) Champ. I never had trouble back >then getting tubes, and hadn't considered the possibility >that it would be a problem now. AT>Any hints? www.tubesandmore.com >I haven't found any mods for the Champs. You don't need to mod them :) AT>I'm also looking for an original speaker. good luck, d00d. I have a tweed Champ and can't find one either. They used cheapos and they frequently blew up. The choices are Kendrick, Mojo, Weber and Celestion. * SLMR 2.1a * You must promise to wear unwashed lederhosen.... --- Maximus 3.01 * Origin: Nuclear Fish BBS - go ahead - TRY to call us. (1:2614/705)