--------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 174 MUFFIN (MAXIMUS) Ref: EEN00012Date: 10/16/97 From: KEN BROWDER Time: 06:05pm \/To: CALIXTO ONG II (Read 0 times) Subj: Birthday Bulletin Hello Calixto. 14 Oct 97 09:33, Calixto Ong Ii wrote to Ken Browder: CI> I think I saw that MAXKIT.. and it has 2 versions ? isn't it? The latest version that I know about is MAXKIT25. CI> Thanks a lot Ken, God Bless... No problem. Gerry does a good job with his programs. May God bless you too. Ken --- GoldED/386 2.50+ * Origin: The AmaRad BBS*423-339-1826*Cleveland, TN (1:362/1110) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 174 MUFFIN (MAXIMUS) Ref: EEN00013Date: 10/16/97 From: KEN BROWDER Time: 06:54pm \/To: DAVID CHORD (Read 0 times) Subj: speed?? Hello David. 15 Oct 97 01:34, David Chord wrote to Ken Browder: DC> I have not been able to establish a session with your system at all, DC> neither through my normal coms program nor through Bink :-( DC> If the file is small, would you mind crashing it through to my system? DC> Hopefully things will work better the other way :-) Sorry for the problem. However, your location presents a big problem for me. I am retired and very little money to spend on this hobby so I will have to defer until such time as I can have a little extra to spend. Sorry. BTW....my phone number is United States 1-423-339-1826. Is that the number your system was dialing? Ken --- GoldED/386 2.50+ * Origin: The AmaRad BBS*423-339-1826*Cleveland, TN (1:362/1110) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 174 MUFFIN (MAXIMUS) Ref: EEN00014Date: 10/17/97 From: GERRY DANEN Time: 07:45am \/To: ROBBY DITTMANN (Read 0 times) Subj: Year 2000 On 16 Oct 97 14:57:32, Robby was going on about "Year 2000"... RD> At what cost to the nation? GD> Zero! RD> I guess you think the banks won't pass on the billion dollar upgrade RD> costs to us? You were not talking about programs from the banks. You were speaking rather in general. I replied with my experiences, i.e. programs at work that I am responsible for. GD> Not at all. I run a Maximus BBS myself and am greatful to people like GD> Scott for providing such programs without charging for them. This GD> doesn't mean that it can't be a better product. You seem to take ALL GD> criticism as negative. It's NOT! I like to see Maximus survive, but if GD> Scott and loyalists like yourself are so sensitive about improvements, GD> I'm not so sure it will... :( RD> Perhaps I misread, but your first post sounded much more like a RD> complaint than a suggestion. Well, that wasn't the intent. If I wasn't happy with Maximus, I could always switch, no? GD> So by your own admission, you're really not a year 2000 expert, then? RD> Nope, just a year 2000 victim. That's the thing. Nobody needs to be a victim! GD> Not that it really matters to this discussion, but let me guess... zero. RD> How about hundreds to thousands. I have incompatible BIOS and my RD> vendor is out of business, so by the end of 1999 I will need at RD> minimum, one motherboard, and at maxmimum, two complete systems. First, how incompatible is your BIOS? Can you set the date to Feb 29/2000? If so, observe the day of the week. Now set it to Feb 28/2000 and March 1/2000 respectively. Are the days of the week one earlier and one later as you'd expect them to be? If so, leave the date on March 1/2000, turn the PC off overnight and turn on the next day. Does it say March 2/2000? If so, your BIOS is just fine. Make sure not to run any programs during these tests, because some programs have expiration dates for licenses, or will start doing month end or year end jobs... Now, how much money do you need to spend? Gerry Danen (gdanen@accessweb.com) C+Net BBS @ 403-477-9545 http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/Way/9823 2 years, 75 days, 16 hours, 21 minutes, and 2 seconds until January 1, 2000. --- Maximus 3.01 # Origin: C+Net BBS. Programming & Networking. (111:1403/2) * Origin: Alberta Genealogy BBS (1:342/5013) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 174 MUFFIN (MAXIMUS) Ref: EEN00015Date: 10/17/97 From: GERRY DANEN Time: 08:18am \/To: PATRICK MCCULLOUGH (Read 0 times) Subj: Year 2000 PM> What worries me, and you, it seems, are the Americans, Brits, and PM> Europeans who all use / between the numbers and put the numbers in PM> different orders depending on who's doing it. PM> It confuses me /now/ when I stumble across a date like 14/01/95 PM> or 2/10/97. Which is the month and date? Is it October 2 or PM> February 10th? PM> This Y2K mess is not going to help that, but only make it worse, I PM> fear, especially if someone imposes some sort of standard on it. PM> Suppose the Euro way is adopted as official. Americans would react PM> the same way the reacted when the Metric system was introduced: bitch PM> and complain and reject it entirely. OK, you are talking about 3 things here. Y2K compliance (4-digit years), the order of the pieces of the date, and the separator. Compliance *only* addresses the inclusion of the century into the year, *nothing* else, although some try to make more out of it. There are people who want to make CCYYMMDD a standard, but that's totally separate from compliance. Same with the separator. You must be able to choose your own (or have none if you so choose). Gerry Danen (gdanen@accessweb.com) C+Net BBS @ 403-477-9545 http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/Way/9823 2 years, 75 days, 16 hours, 21 minutes, and 2 seconds until January 1, 2000. --- Maximus 3.01 # Origin: C+Net BBS. Programming & Networking. (111:1403/2) * Origin: Alberta Genealogy BBS (1:342/5013) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 174 MUFFIN (MAXIMUS) Ref: EEN00016Date: 10/17/97 From: ROGER NELSON Time: 04:10pm \/To: ALL (Read 0 times) Subj: Y2K Hello All! I wonder if all the suggestions Scott Dudley is receiving about Y2K problems are also sent in kind to the other software manufacturers with the same zeal? Regards, Roger --- timEd/2 1.10+ * Origin: NCS BBS - Mandeville, LA - (504) 626-7968 (1:3828/7) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 174 MUFFIN (MAXIMUS) Ref: EEN00017Date: 10/18/97 From: ROGER NELSON Time: 07:13am \/To: VERN FAULKNER (Read 0 times) Subj: Patch Vern Faulkner wrote in a message to Terry Cairns: VF> Now, through the years, I've not often seen Mr. Dudley leave an VF> ambiguous message in an echo, so unless he's turned over a new VF> leaf... Humorous, yes. Ambiguous, no. Informative, ALWAYS. Regards, Roger --- timEd/2 1.10+ * Origin: NCS BBS - Mandeville, LA - (504) 626-7968 (1:3828/7) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 174 MUFFIN (MAXIMUS) Ref: EEN00018Date: 10/18/97 From: LARRY EVANS Time: 06:56am \/To: ALL (Read 0 times) Subj: OS/2 BBS options Sorry guys, couldn't help it, truth is truth. Lightnin' Lar * Forwarded (from: OS2BBS) by Larry Evans using timEd/2 1.10. * Originally from Larry Evans (1:346/49) to Greg Cobb. * Original dated: Sat Oct 18, 06:34 Greg Cobb wrote in a message to Larry Evans: GC> Thursday October 16 1997, Larry Evans babbled to John Greer: JG>> Is there a SyncroNet/2? -> Yep, I'm taking a slow look at it as well. GC> Details, please! Could you list some features of it? Yikes, well, got in a pinch for space and guess what went bye bye? I get nervous when I get down to less than 2 gig free over all drives. I had Tornado, NorthStar, Synchronet/2, Adept, Shotgun, and Lora all setup to take a look at....I dunno, so far I can do everything I need with Max and all the tweaks I have learned, but still would like to find one that will allow me to interact with the web AND still mangle it to my personal satisfaction as well. Haven't found that particular beast yet I'm afraid. Tornado and North Star are not native, no matter how well they run, Adept has some promise but I'm still holding off..., Shotgun, pretty, but still not OS/2 native and still lacking in some areas I think, .... Lora...like Adept, has promise but still doesn;t have it all for what I want,...Synchronet/2 is looking interesting, but I still stick with Maximus. Now, it doesn't come out of the gate as pretty as some, missing some of the bells and whistles of others, takes a bit of work to get it all 'just so', and requires a bit of mental dexterity to make it do internet anything.....still...all in all...look at the longevity, look at the continued support by the author, the careful upgrades...and the plethora of USER donated support for this product...well...I have yet to be swayed away. The BBS software package that causes me to drop Maximus completely and totally change systems has better dance for me my friend, it had better offer newsgroup fetching, internet email handling, built in and add-on capability for every widget know to modemkind...ANSI graphics are a MUST for sheer speed, acsii must be there for those still trapped in 2400 baud monochrome antiquity, RIP or higher graphics ONLY if they are WEB browser compatible, it had better be capable of importing message base info and file base info from a WIDE variety of formats, it had better have HUB capacity in handling file and echomail tossing, it had better be capable of doing an extremely wide array of interfacing with modems (all the little diverse beasties), Frame relay, ISDN, T1 or fractional, or LAN devices out of the box, it had better be capable of handling CDroms, Tape devices, ZIP/JAZZ drives (or WORM), and it had better just knock my socks from the sysop side for configurability options from a dialup BBS/Dialup PPP/SLIP side and from a WEB side standpoint. What? I don't WANT MUCH? Nah, not really, but thats what it will take to make me dump all the knowledge I have gleaned from Maximus and all the support tools I have laboriously gathered and learned how to apply, and all the labor of love, time intensive customization I have invested in this BBS. I have not yet walked away from FIDO, and still feel that there is PLENTY of life left in the old dog, but, damnit, why can't the guys MOST capable of doing the coding for WEB systems and BBS softwares EVER get it together and write something that does what WE need? No, until such an esoteric creature as that which I described falls from the software heavens, lands on my lap, and starts to wiggle.....I'll use what I use, and happily so . Adios for now, Lightnin' Lar (larry@fidogate.com) ___ timEd/2 1.10 - Origin: Tesla's Tower/Spokane HUB/ftp.fidogate.com (1:346/49) --- timEd/2 1.10 * Origin: Tesla's Tower/Spokane HUB/ftp.fidogate.com (1:346/49) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 174 MUFFIN (MAXIMUS) Ref: EEN00019Date: 10/18/97 From: MICHAEL EPLER Time: 05:48am \/To: CASEY TOMPKINS (Read 0 times) Subj: Year 2000 CT> This (and the remark about Japanese users) created a CT> thought I had not had before about the y2K CT> "controversy": to what degree is the Christian Era CT> dating utilized in the rest of the world? I realize CT> that CE dating has a wide popularity (if that is the CT> right word ) due to the preeminence of European CT> culture across the planet, but is there significant CT> use of other dating systems? Like it or not, universal as far as daily commerce, news, information, publishing, transportation, etc. that moves in the global village. On a cultural level, that's another story with many different calendars maintained from ones with small variations (slavic Gregorian vs Julian) to Hebrew, Chinese, Mayan, etc. Seems just like most other peoples are multi-lingual, most others can be multi-calendar as well....... gee, I almost forgot those folks that use FEDERATION STAR DATEs........ --- Maximus 2.02 * Origin: DelaMarPenn MicroNet -+- Newark, Delaware (1:150/115) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 174 MUFFIN (MAXIMUS) Ref: EEN00020Date: 10/18/97 From: MICHAEL EPLER Time: 06:29am \/To: SCOTT DUDLEY (Read 0 times) Subj: Year 2000 SD>> Why does compliance mean 4-digit years? If Maximus were to support SD>> 2-digit years properly ("01/14/00 = January 14, 2000"), how on earth SD>> could that not be compliance? GD> Interpretation is not compliance. Compliance means there is not a single GD> doubt as to what 01/14/00 means. SD> Aye, but therein lies the rub. SD> Suppose that we go whole-hog and we write October the 12th, 2001 as SD> "10/12/2001". Surely, that must eliminate all ambiguity, right? SD> Unfortunately, in the other 94.3% of the world that is Not to belabor this discussion, all I thought several of these folks were asking for is the following: [format] specifies the format to use for file-entry date stamps, and can be any of the following options: mm-dd-yy (U.S.A., default) dd-mm-yy (Canada/England) yy-mm-dd (Japanese) yymmdd (Scientific) Each "yy" to become "yyyy" thus the already flexible MAX remains so but with four digit year compliance the way other apps are being recoded or bios systems being altered. SD> not the United States, that date would be interpreted SD> as December the 10th, 2001. Your Japanese callers SD> will have to figure out if that date means jyu-ni- But you have already built that flexibility into MAX as noted above from the MAX docs, and even though you point out 94.3% of the world is not the USA, you did make it the default so most of this line of argument seems like "puffery". (IMHO) But I still thank you for a great BBS...... I think those of us still running them want to see MAX remain the best. --- Maximus 2.02 * Origin: DelaMarPenn MicroNet -+- Newark, Delaware (1:150/115) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 174 MUFFIN (MAXIMUS) Ref: EEN00021Date: 10/10/97 From: GARY GEORGE Time: 06:12pm \/To: PETER SUMNER (Read 0 times) Subj: *nix version of Max? Hi Peter! Quoting your message to David Chord: SD>> Sorry, but there are no plans for a *n*x version of Maximus (or SD>> Squish, for that matter). DC> Would you consider doing a port? I know a few people who are quite DC> saddened because they want to use Max, but they equally want to have a DC> *nix system. PS> Hmmm he might release the version 2.xx source for *nix port? I've heard Scott was unhappy with the results of releasing the code to Max 1.xx. But there may be a reasonable alternative: I've heard that Linux has some very nice DOS emulation. Now, Maximus doesn't demand a whole lot of an operating system: console, file system, and comm port. The comm port access is very nicely standardized too: if DOSEMU has (or gets) a high-quality FOSSIL implementation, Maximus and Binkley should both run under it. SQUISH should run already. And if a SYSOP takes the trouble to build Linux up to that level and can't make one of the pieces work, he might be able to persuade Scott that this is a "bugfix" item and make the necessary changes to Max or Squish to get there. Just a thought. Gary --- Not tonight, dear. I have a modem. * Origin: Midnight Oil, St. Albert, AB (1:342/607)