--------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 174 MUFFIN (MAXIMUS) Ref: EDM00095Date: 09/11/97 From: ROBBY DITTMANN Time: 08:15am \/To: GLENN CHRISTENSEN (Read 1 times) Subj: Weird Stuff GC> A caller uploaded two files to me and left a message to me to that GC> effect. All my new uploads go to UNCHECK. Looking there, I did not find GC> the files, and so informed the uploader. Later, he uploaded the same two GC> files. He then left me a message saying that he knew the previous GC> uploads were there because his terminal renamed the two files on the GC> subsequent upload. When you say they weren't there, do you mean at a DOS prompt or inside Max with a file search? If you're talking about inside Max, it may mean that you do not have FB set up correctly to run after an upload. If you are talking about from a DOS prompt, that's the weirdest thing I've ever heard, and I have never seen anything remotely like it. Robby --- Maximus 3.01 * Origin: Red Shift BBS ... Snellville, Ga. ... (770) 979-9467 (1:133/8003) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 174 MUFFIN (MAXIMUS) Ref: EDM00096Date: 09/11/97 From: ROBBY DITTMANN Time: 04:52pm \/To: MARK RUHLAND (Read 1 times) Subj: Prob with "Comments to Sysop":-( MR> I found out that my callers can READ msgs left to me by MR> others What's your access set to on that area? My users can't even see that area, just leave comments in it. Make sure your access is set to SysOp. Robby --- Maximus 3.01 * Origin: Red Shift BBS ... Snellville, Ga. ... (770) 979-9467 (1:133/8003) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 174 MUFFIN (MAXIMUS) Ref: EDM00097Date: 09/12/97 From: ROBBY DITTMANN Time: 03:07pm \/To: GARY WEINFURTHER (Read 1 times) Subj: Max3 and SX and Gary Gilmore GW> 7. There's more than one person named Gary in the GW> world. I happen to be a "Gary" that frequents the GW> Delphi newsgroups. Was it you? ;-) --- Maximus 3.01 * Origin: Red Shift BBS ... Snellville, Ga. ... (770) 979-9467 (1:133/8003) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 174 MUFFIN (MAXIMUS) Ref: EDM00098Date: 09/12/97 From: DAVE HAMILTON Time: 06:49pm \/To: CHRIS BRITTON (Read 1 times) Subj: Max3 and SX and Gary Gilmore DH>> Blackmail and terrorism are disgusting no matter what their degree. CB> Go read a business law book, and then a federal law book, and come CB> back. Leveraging a product against a market isn't illegal. The CB> gov't tried to slap anti-trust lawsuits onto intell when it told its CB> distributers that if they sold AMD processors, it would stop selling CB> to them. The lawsuit failed ( had no grounds .. unfair isn't illegal CB> ) It is market leveraging. Nothing else. If you acquaint yourself with the facts, i.e., read Gary's comment, you will find this has nothing to do with marketing and everything to do with Hector acting like a child trying to take his ball and bat and go home. The sooner he does, the better. CB> I would hope Scott would side with the masses, per se. I think you can count on it. Scott seems to be a rational person. --- FleetStreet 1.20+ * Origin: Aurora Exploratoria - Newcastle, ON, Canada (1:229/622) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 174 MUFFIN (MAXIMUS) Ref: EDM00099Date: 09/12/97 From: LINDA HARGRAVES Time: 07:06pm \/To: GLENN CHRISTENSEN (Read 1 times) Subj: Re: new message area/men Hi Glenn, LH> That fact about upgrades not being compatible is LH>exactly what I dislike about some software. GC> Far as I know that hasn't happened with MAXIMUS yet. But I never ran the GC> very earliest versions, so I wouldn't know if the 3.01 upgrade would GC> overlay on them properly. However, if the programmer provides for GC> backwards compatibility to the last version, then I think he's done his GC> job. Thanks. I am still planning on keeping v2.02. TTYL Linda cat.lady@cats.gratisnet.com --- Maximus 2.02 * Origin: Cat House BBS * Tulsa BBS List HQ * (918) 584-3441 (1:170/160) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 174 MUFFIN (MAXIMUS) Ref: EDM00100Date: 09/12/97 From: LINDA HARGRAVES Time: 07:08pm \/To: CHRIS BRITTON (Read 1 times) Subj: Re: new message area/men Hi Chris, LH> Thanks for your input. At the time I started this LH> bbs, I was using an XT and I know that v3.x would not LH> have worked on that computer, however, I have been CB> Don't be so sure. I ran max on an xt for a while, with CB> only 640k. Max still ( as far as i know ) supports CB> double dos as a multitasker. DD was a big thing for CB> xt's as it allowed two windows to be open. I wouldn't CB> be surprised if max 3 ran on an xt now, as the memory CB> requirements from 2.01 have either not changed, or it CB> was a sufficiently small change not to be noticed. LH> fortunate to have various parts donated to me, so that LH> now I am using a 486/33 but there are not enough LH> reasons for me to make the change. CB> Possibly. LH> That fact about upgrades not being compatible is LH> exactly what I dislike about some software. CB> Don't be too hard on Max. There comes a point CB> sometimes when you must throw out the old and bring in CB> the new. New programming languages, new hardware CB> requirements, overcomming old bugs/limits. All these CB> can't possible be accomplished if everything stayed CB> backward compatible. Look at MS-DOS CB> If it was still 100% backward compatile with ver CB> 1.10... nobody would have hard drives.. sector size CB> would be wierd.. limits on subdirectories.. etc. Thanks anyway. TTYL Linda cat.lady@cats.gratisnet.com --- Maximus 2.02 * Origin: Cat House BBS * Tulsa BBS List HQ * (918) 584-3441 (1:170/160) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 174 MUFFIN (MAXIMUS) Ref: EDM00101Date: 09/12/97 From: GREG FOLEY Time: 07:16pm \/To: MIKE CATTLE (Read 1 times) Subj: User Stats package for OS/2 MC> Hi, everyone. MC> I'm currently looking for an OS/2-based user stats package that includes MC> best caller/uploader/message writer/et cetera. MC> I have previously been using MaxAll, but the frequent calls to DOS MC> sessions on my busy multinode system has been causing problems. MC> Any ideas/suggestions on alternatives? A web or ftp address would be MC> preferred. Check out the file "BASEMENT.ZIP" available from the Maximus Homepage (Gary's site).... Included are Mex programs that generate up to the minute, on the fly stats.. Greg --- Maximus 3.01 * Origin: Data Warehouse, A Muffin and a Hot Chocolate.... (1:244/333) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 174 MUFFIN (MAXIMUS) Ref: EDM00102Date: 09/12/97 From: PATRICK MCCULLOUGH Time: 06:36pm \/To: CHRIS BRITTON (Read 1 times) Subj: Max3 and SX and Gary Gilmore Chris Britton wrote in a message to Dave Hamilton: DH> Blackmail and terrorism are disgusting no matter what their degree. CB> Go read a business law book, and then a federal law book, and come CB> back. Leveraging a product against a market isn't illegal. The CB> gov't tried to slap anti-trust lawsuits onto intell when it told its CB> distributers that if they sold AMD processors, it would stop selling CB> to them. The lawsuit failed ( had no grounds .. unfair isn't CB> illegal ) It is market leveraging. Nothing else. Call it leveraging if you like. It's not going to win Santos many customers. Of course, when nobody buys his door because of his attitude, then that will also be the customer's fault somehow. DH> which should not involve personalities. I wonder what Scott Dudley DH> thinks of your temper tantrum. CB> I would hope Scott would side with the masses, per se. If enough CB> people are unhappy.. instead of changing them.. perhaps it is time CB> to change the rules. The masses are happy. Can you and Santos understand that? Gilmore didn't say the things Santos is accusing him of saying, so Santos, forgive the expression, has his head up his rear end, to come in here and demand anything. All he's done is show what a jerk he is. CB> When rules are at the point where there is no leeway of any kind.. CB> that is when a system becomes dangerously brittle. A small change CB> in environment can cause extinction at that point. What has this got to do with anything? What rules were broken? This happened in Usenet. There are no rules there. And Gary Gilmore didn't say it anyway, so it's incredibly stupid to try to A) blame him for it, and B) try to cause an echo revolt over it. The irony is, by his actions here, Hector seems to have shown that the person who *did* say these things to him was right. And FWIW, anyone with THAT thin of a skin has no business in any newsgroup. If you can't handle the flames, you shouldn't be there. Period. Even newbies know that. CB> By there nature.. rules need exceptions. BS. The echo moderator is God if his/her echo. If you don't like it, leave. If you want no rules, go to Usenet. Hector couldn't deal with it, so you'd better have a stronger constitution than his. CB> By the way.. have you used the max internal .qwk functions.. or just CB> external ones.. like silver express.. or blue wave? CB> This question is actually pertaining to blue wave. I had been using CB> one of the 2.x versions with max 3, and was doing an odd thing. It CB> would lod the door up correctly but would react as if the user had CB> 30 minutes -less- in thier account. odd huh.. but I think I'll go CB> over to the blue wave echo for a more detailed querry about it. Oh that takes nerve, blasting the echo and the moderator and then asking for help. HAH! Sounds like you screwed up your door install. Have fun fixing it. Maybe Hector can help. Patrick --- timEd 1.10 * Origin: Layzner SPT-LZ-00X (1:133/1024) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 174 MUFFIN (MAXIMUS) Ref: EDM00103Date: 09/12/97 From: PATRICK MCCULLOUGH Time: 06:51pm \/To: GARY WEINFURTHER (Read 1 times) Subj: Max3 and SX and Gary Gilmore following up a message from Robby Dittmann to Gary Weinfurther: GW> 7. There's more than one person named Gary in the GW> world. I happen to be a "Gary" that frequents the GW> Delphi newsgroups. RD> Was it you? ;-) If so, you were right, of course. ;) Thanks for helping to show Santos' true colors. Patrick --- timEd 1.10 * Origin: Layzner SPT-LZ-00X (1:133/1024) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 174 MUFFIN (MAXIMUS) Ref: EDM00104Date: 09/12/97 From: GREG MACLELLAN Time: 07:28pm \/To: LARRY RINK (Read 1 times) Subj: Zero LR> I prefer not to offer my callers too many choices. The LR> "canned" message menu offers something like 24 options. LR> I have it narrowed down to 6. Many of my callers are LR> new to BBSing and it helps to keep it simple. Even the LR> experienced ones are so used to "point & click" that LR> they seem to have a hard time of it. win95 is making even technicians look bad. when some tech can't even use DOS, you know something is really wrong. and it happens. i've seen it before.. but you could always make your own menus, and keep it simple for your users (hope this is ok to post gary).. here's mine: ܲ , "۰ , ", , ۱ , ݰ , , ۰`, ۲ݰ ; ݰ ް,ݰ;۰ ۱ Ŀ ۲ ۰ ; ߲ , ' ;۰ .as _ ۲ ,`. ' ` CHAOS BBS General Commands Movement Advanced Commands Enter Message -Change Area- = Read Non-Stop Change Message Next Message - Follow Thread (last) Reply to Message Previous Message + Follow Thread (next) Forward Message Browse ^Download Attaches :Read Current List Upload Message Kill (delete) Message Hurl (Move) Msg Unrecieve Message Ĵ ! Logoff @ Main # Message $ Files % Doors & Sysop /? QuicKeys [Message Menu]Ĵ [Select: ][Sep 12nd, 7:28][Node: 01][Timeleft: lots] [ 183/200 ] (FIDO.MUFFIN) FidoNet: Maximus Support Use / for previous/next message respectivley, or press for the NEXT message the "general commands" "movement" and "advanced commands" area headers, and all different colors.. the keys are different colors than the word as well (you can't logon without ansi - due to this, as putting brakets around things look ugly, and there's some locate commands i use that don't look pretty when it doesn't locate =) .. and i'm to lazy to make a text-only mex version of it, as i spent a long time making it look right). But anyhow, it's fairly simple, i could have sectioned it off even more and put boxes around everything, but the way i have the menus laid out it wouldn't look any good. The bottom bar where it says "Select: ... " and the node number / date etc is a mex i have, and it's on the bottom of every menu. the thing below that is just a mecca script, that basically copies the default one that comes with max. but i think it's fairly simple to use (much easier in color) and most people don't have problems with it. oops, and i just discovered a bug in that mex.. "12nd" isn't right .. ;) heh. ttyl, greg --- Maximus/2 3.01 * Origin: * Chaos BBS * 6i3.389.O8i6 * Kingston, ON! (1:249/174)