--------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 114 SPORTS Ref: EEC00008 Date: 10/07/97 From: ED GRINNELL Time: 07:16pm \/To: TERRY MAY (Read 0 times) Subj: The Corral After being aced by Monica Seles, Terry May said: TM> The numbers I saw had Maddux passing Smoltz on his last start, for the That's what I saw myself but BB Weekly had it differently with last week's numbers. --- TrekEd 1.00 * Origin: On the 7th day, God created the Dallas Cowboys (1:170/1701) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 114 SPORTS Ref: EEC00009 Date: 10/07/97 From: TERRY MAY Time: 11:29pm \/To: ED GRINNELL (Read 0 times) Subj: Re: Seattle Re: _Seattle_, Ed Grinnell wrote to Terry May on 07 Oct 97: EG> The 49ers traded Terry May to the Jets for saying: EG> TM>> Then how do you explain the Braves shutting down the Indians in '95 TM>> or EG> EG> Once...Once...Think about it, Terry. The Braves have had the advantage EG> in pitching in every series but they've been beaten in all but one WS EG> and they got blown away by a Phillies team that wasn't even in the EG> same ballpark when it came to pitching. If pitching was the big a EG> factor, the Braves would have won as many series as the old Yankees. EG> I'm not trying to downplay pitching, however, you can't win if you're EG> constantly on the wrong end of a 2-1 game and that's where the Braves EG> have been. We're talking about two different things. I'm saying good pitching can shut down great hitting. I'm not saying that *all* you need is pitching to win. I'd say in a 2-1 game, both pitchers pretty much shut down the other offense. ... Atlanta Braves - 1991, 1992, 1995 & 1996 National League Champions! --- JetMail 0.99alpha23 * Origin: #[Rebel BBS]-[Las Vegas]-[HST/V.E]-[702/736-2822]# (1:209/745) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 114 SPORTS Ref: EED00000 Date: 10/08/97 From: BARRY LAWS, JR. Time: 12:18pm \/To: ALL (Read 0 times) Subj: Carolina Hurricanes Why do I have a sinking feeling that the Carolina Hurricanes will be the biggest disaster in the NHL since the California Golden Seals? --- Telegard v3.02 * Origin: The Steiner Line BBS 910-626-7985 (1:3648/6) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 114 SPORTS Ref: EED00001 Date: 10/08/97 From: TERRY MAY Time: 03:06pm \/To: ED GRINNELL (Read 0 times) Subj: Re: Seattle Re: _Seattle_, Ed Grinnell wrote to Terry May on 08 Oct 97: EG> Terry was hit by a Randy Johnson fastball for uttering: EG> TM>> I'm saying good pitching can shut down great hitting. EG> EG> Some times it can but most of the times it can't. The Yankees would EG> have never won some of those championships if they didn't have that EG> awesome hitting. Difficult to say what kind of pitching they faced, though. The thing about great hitting is it leaves no room for error on the pitcher's part. But I still think a great pitcher who is on his game could virtually shut down just about any lineup. But again, the key is being on their game. Great hitters make you pay for mistakes. ... Atlanta Braves - 1991, 1992, 1995 & 1996 National League Champions! --- JetMail 0.99alpha23 * Origin: #[Rebel BBS]-[Las Vegas]-[HST/V.E]-[702/736-2822]# (1:209/745) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 114 SPORTS Ref: EED00002 Date: 10/08/97 From: TERRY MAY Time: 03:19pm \/To: DAVE NEUMAN (Read 0 times) Subj: Re: Seattle Re: _Seattle_, Dave Neuman wrote to Terry May on 08 Oct 97: ->> Of course, you still have mediots like Joe Morgan proclaim, "Good ->> pitching cannot shut down /great/ hitting." DN> DN> That statement looked pretty good right after the Martinez dinger.. DN> DN> And it looked worse and worse as the game wore on.. :) :) Of course. He thought the Mariners would keep hitting and he's look like a genius for going against a popular saying. Of course, he didn't come out later and say, "Geez, I guess good pitching /can/ shut down great hitting." :^) ... Multitasking: Start download; grab a beer; watch some basketball. --- JetMail 0.99alpha23 * Origin: #[Rebel BBS]-[Las Vegas]-[HST/V.E]-[702/736-2822]# (1:209/745) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 114 SPORTS Ref: EED00003 Date: 10/08/97 From: DAVE POAPS Time: 04:26pm \/To: DAVE HASSLER (Read 0 times) Subj: Re: Seattle *** Quoting Dave Hassler to Dave Poaps dated 10-06-97 *** > > DP: They couldn't get their big men to work in the biggest time of > > DP: the season. Seems that Edgar Martinez was the only one working > > DP: to his potential.. > > No run support for a well-pitched game. Okay, Johnson really struggled > in the first, but after that he was (more or less) his old self. > Griffey and Rodriguez utterly dissappeared in the series. :^( > > *Very* happy to see former Portland Beaver Jeff Rebolet crack one into > > the seats! (not to mention Lenny Webster -- I really used to enjoy > watching those guys for $3/game!) > > Dave > > > *!* Opus-CBCS 1.79.x > * Origin: The VolleyBoard, (503)537-9874 [11p-8a] (1:105/240.0) > > You're right.. Jeff Fassero pitched his heart out and only got two runs support up until the last inning with back to back homers. Also, look at Dan Wilson, almost every time he was up, he struck out. --- T.A.G. 2.7 Standard * Origin: Beaver Keeper BBS (1:244/442) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 114 SPORTS Ref: EED00004 Date: 10/08/97 From: DAVE POAPS Time: 04:28pm \/To: TERRY MAY (Read 0 times) Subj: Re: Seattle *** Quoting Terry May to Dave Poaps dated 10-06-97 *** > > Edgar finished with a .188 average. I think his potential is just a > tad higher than that. :^) > > People shouldn't be surprised. It seems to happen about every year. > Some "great hitting" team gets to the playoffs or World Series and is > shut down by "great pitching." It happened in '95 when the Braves > completely shut down the Indians' vaunted attack. It happened in '88 > when the Dodgers shut down and upset the A's lineup. > > Of course, you still have mediots like Joe Morgan proclaim, "Good > pitching cannot shut down /great/ hitting." > > ... PITCHERS.BAT found! Delete DH.SYS (Y/y)? > *!* JetMail 0.99alpha23 > * Origin: #[Rebel BBS]-[Las Vegas]-[HST/V.E]-[702/736-2822]# > (1:209/745) > > Well, Edgar Martinez got two homers in 4 games, did he not? Anyways, I think great pitching can easily shut down great hitting. Normal pitching shuts down great hitters 7 out of 10 times. --- T.A.G. 2.7 Standard * Origin: Beaver Keeper BBS (1:244/442) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 114 SPORTS Ref: EED00005 Date: 10/08/97 From: DAVE POAPS Time: 04:29pm \/To: KAYE SHEN (Read 0 times) Subj: Re: Seattle *** Quoting Kaye Shen to Dave Poaps dated 10-06-97 *** > DP> They couldn't get their big men to work in the biggest time of the > season. > DP> Seems that Edgar Martinez was the only one working to his > potential.. > it's their bullpen that let them down. man, did they make a mistake in > trading > cruz jr. > > *!* Renegade v5-11 Exp > * Origin: The Licking Factory, OS/2 in NJ! (732)815-3146 (1:107/634) > > Their bullpen?! Yes, that was a huge reason but they didn't get any support from Griffey, Rodriguez and Buhner. --- T.A.G. 2.7 Standard * Origin: Beaver Keeper BBS (1:244/442) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 114 SPORTS Ref: EED00006 Date: 10/08/97 From: ED GRINNELL Time: 09:01pm \/To: TERRY MAY (Read 0 times) Subj: Seattle The 49ers traded Terry May to the Jets for saying: TM> Difficult to say what kind of pitching they faced, though. In most cases, they faced the best of the other league. TM> The thing about great hitting is it leaves no room for error on the TM> pitcher's part. Right. A great hitting team might not bludgeon the other team in every game, however, they give themselves a much better chance than a team that's got great pitching but isn't a great hitting team. --- TrekEd 1.00 * Origin: is the best freshman I've ever seen - Vitale (1:170/1701) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 114 SPORTS Ref: EED00007 Date: 10/08/97 From: ED GRINNELL Time: 07:32am \/To: TERRY MAY (Read 0 times) Subj: Seattle Terry was hit by a Randy Johnson fastball for uttering: TM> I'm saying good pitching can shut down great hitting. Some times it can but most of the times it can't. The Yankees would have never won some of those championships if they didn't have that awesome hitting. --- TrekEd 1.00 * Origin: is the best freshman I've ever seen - Vitale (1:170/1701)