--------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 171 VIRUS INFO Ref: EE^00000 Date: 10/30/97 From: RICK COLLINS Time: 12:48am \/To: TIM WONG (Read 1 times) Subj: What is a good W95 VirChe Hi Tim, In a message to Kurt Wismer you wrote: TW> Ummmm ok.... I don't know where the hell this message came from. TW> My name IS Tim Wong, TW> but I certainly didn't write this message.... Perhaps you're not the only Tim Wong in the Universe. _That_ would explain it. Wight or wong? Rick --- * Origin: The Warlock's Cave (1:163/215.39) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 171 VIRUS INFO Ref: EE^00001 Date: 10/29/97 From: RICHARD PENNINGTON Time: 10:49am \/To: TIM WONG (Read 1 times) Subj: What is a good W95 VirChe Good [morning|evening|afternoon] Tim! 27 Oct 97, Tim Wong wrote to Joel Devlin: TW> Could it be that someone has the same name as me??? Very likely.....but two Wongs still don't make one right :-) Bye For Now, Richard. --- SAM'ed 0.10b (free with TERMINATOR 2) * Origin: Apathy error: Don't bother striking any key. (2:254/211.777) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 171 VIRUS INFO Ref: EF300000 Date: 10/28/97 From: KURT WISMER Time: 04:13pm \/To: RONEL RUSTIA (Read 1 times) Subj: Re: virus -=> Mocking Ronel Rustia to Chris Maddock <=- RR> Viruses shouldn't completely die out. RR> Otherwise who'd deter the pirates? the cops... besides, viruses don't deter pirates anymore... they've learned to pirate anti-virus software... ... i missed Bill Gates at COMDEX, but i'll get him next year... --- TGWave v1.20.b09 * Origin: fks Online! * Mississauga, ON Canada (1:259/423) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 171 VIRUS INFO Ref: EF300001 Date: 10/30/97 From: CHRIS MADDOCK Time: 07:04pm \/To: KURT WISMER (Read 1 times) Subj: virus On 26 Oct at 21:18, Kurt Wismer of 1:259/423 wrote to Chris Maddock: CM>> VIRUS originated (now lets see if I get this the right way around!) in CM>> Europe and the VIRUS_INFO conference originated as Zone1's answer to CM>> the temerity of someone else starting a conference that wasn't in CM>> Zone1. :) KW> that sounds SO believable... :) KW> it didn't start in one of those "southern" states, did it? Dunno. Anything is possible. KW>> of course my own experience does support it.. back when edwin cleton was KW>> around, the pro-virus guys were a lot more prevailent and a lot more KW>> vocal... rather suggestive of the vx crowd grudgingly giving up their KW>> place here... CM>> They were much more vocal - and organised. The Vx crowd was always KW> which sets me to thinking... do you suppose that the current level of KW> disorganization and lack of communication of innovations could spell a KW> "vx darkages" when the current generation finally grows up and finds KW> more interesting things to do? Maybe but I doubt it. Many of them are now on the "net" and are vocal and semi-organised there. There is more anoninimity and they feel less threatened by exposure. CM>> looking for a forum to have their discussions and it never happened on CM>> any scale until NUKE_THEWORLD got going and then VIRUS_NFO. It seems CM>> getting one's own echo was always the answer and we told them that - CM>> often. In the meanwhile, there was friction between the AV crowd and CM>> the Vx crowd in the two existant echoes. KW> of course now, blatantly and offensively pro-virus views are against the KW> rules and offenders are subject to banishment... and traffic is WAY KW> down... Yes. That is because so many people have disconnected from BBS's in general and gone to "the net" where spam rules supreme and charges are everyday. This compares to "those nasty BBS's who threatened to charge us" and other such rubbish. I've noticed quite a few have returned though. The thinking ones first as usual as they realise we are actually pretty good (and cheap). And faaaaaast! in comparison. KW>> well, i have no complaints about him either... and i don't recall any KW>> previous moderator inspiring such fanfare... KW>> i do have complaints about the fanfare though, but that's not really KW>> worth going into it's such a minor thing... CM>> Eggzactly. Thats old age creeping up on you Kurt. You get more CM>> tolerant as you get ancient. KW> i'm ancient? i'm still under the quarter century mark... Oh-god! Your positively ancient then ! You are over 10 so you =must= be old. Ask any 10 yr old. I won't mention my age then. :) Regards, Chris Maddock chrism@bbs.st.net.au --- Msged/386 4.20 beta 2 * Origin: Diagnostic CBBS - DownUnder - (3:640/302) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 171 VIRUS INFO Ref: EF300002 Date: 10/25/97 From: BERK OZBOZKURT Time: 05:45pm \/To: LARRY KEENAN (Read 1 times) Subj: QUANTUM DRIVES Hi Larry Keenan, BO>> it seems impossible that after unzipping something you get a BO>> virus.. but it is not impossible to get a boot sector virus from LK> It is not impossible to get a virus simply by unzipping something. You LK> can also activate a virus by copying a file. Some boot sector files It is possible to activate a virus by simply unzipping an archive or copying a file, if you use word 'activation' in the following sense: There is a virus in memory which is waiting for some particular action after which it will do some nasty things (like writing a message or formatting hd) and when this happens it 'activates'; but I did not mean activation of an existing virus, I was talking about a new infection. It is also possible to get a virus after running a self extracting archive, but using a clean unziping program to unzip an archive can never end up with a new infection because the virus code must be run (or dropped by some other running program) and only the unarchiver's code (which is clean by definition) is run. if unarchiver's code is not clean, the problem is not 'unzipping something', rather it is 'running an infected program'. Berk --- GoldED/386 2.50.A0715 UNREG * Origin: void BBS where nothing but (2:431/327) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 171 VIRUS INFO Ref: EF300003 Date: 10/30/97 From: DAVID CHORD Time: 04:22pm \/To: RONEL RUSTIA (Read 1 times) Subj: virus ronel rustia wrote in a message to CHRIS MADDOCK: rr> Viruses shouldn't completely die out. rr> Otherwise who'd deter the pirates? rr> pirate: I got the new CuteFTP proggie! hmm it sure is taking a long rr> time to load rr> ;) I actually read about a company which released a program with a virus in it. If the program detected a change in HDD serial number or something like that (something that indicated the software had been pirated), then the virus was released into the system :-) Dave The BBS scene is suffering from a major problem - decline. It's a universal problem, not just limited to FidoNet. There is a way to a bigger, better BBS scene. You can be a part of it. Join INTBBS_WK now, and share the many ideas. --- timEd 1.10 * Origin: GnomeVille TBBS 64-4 235-6887 (3:771/1560) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 171 VIRUS INFO Ref: EF300004 Date: 10/30/97 From: KURT WISMER Time: 04:25pm \/To: PAUL WANKADIA (Read 1 times) Subj: virus -=> Mocking Paul Wankadia to Kurt Wismer <=- PW> I've almost missed all that ... almost ... KW> well i'm sure if you keep trying, someday you'll succede... PW> Aims IMPROVE, with time... depends on the amount of time... if you don't believe me, ask your grandfather... KW> i do have complaints about the fanfare though, but that's not really KW> worth going into it's such a minor thing... PW> You don't agree with its "trademark" status? i don't agree that santa requires a bunch of brown nosed reindeer... ... using VCL is programming vicariously through others... --- TGWave v1.20.b09 * Origin: fks Online! * Mississauga, ON Canada (1:259/423) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 171 VIRUS INFO Ref: EF300005 Date: 10/30/97 From: PAUL WANKADIA Time: 08:59pm \/To: ROD FEWSTER (Read 1 times) Subj: 2 questions On 27 Oct 97, rod fewster wrote to David Chord -- > I believe you're thinking of various types of Steakth virus? rf> The only way to get rid of a Steakth virus is to drive a lisping rf> wooden vampire through its heart! He's got a lot of data at steak, Rod -- he's playing for high steaks. If he takes that the wrong way, he'll have a T-bone to pick with you. --- PPoint 2.00 * Origin: Junyer's Workshop (1:342/1022.2) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 171 VIRUS INFO Ref: EF300006 Date: 11/01/97 From: PAUL WANKADIA Time: 11:22am \/To: DAVID CHORD (Read 1 times) Subj: viruses On 28 Oct 97, David Chord wrote to Paul Wankadia -- AB> viruses are cool and i wish all you had one right now DC> Shall I write a virus creation lab for this guy or does someone else DC> want to do it? PW> Microsoft has a wonderful product called "Visual Basic". DC> Nah. I prefer to code in Pascal :-) Coding a virus in Pascal wouldn't be as much fun as coding it in VB ... it would require so much more work to achieve the same (bloated) code-size. It would also be fun to see if VB is actually useful for anything. DC> (Of course, it will use my own viral code, and naturally be one of DC> these *nasty* little trojans that first of all formats all HDD's it DC> finds, then kills the partition table, then kills the CMOS data :-) PW> I've got a better idea ... install Windoze 95 AND Visual Basic on PW> his PC! DC> Hmmm... Nah, I'm not THAT cruel! :-) *I* am. --- PPoint 2.00 * Origin: Junyer's Workshop (1:342/1022.2) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 171 VIRUS INFO Ref: EF300007 Date: 11/01/97 From: TIM WONG Time: 11:24am \/To: TIM WONG (Read 1 times) Subj: What is a good W95 VirChe On 27 Oct 97, Tim Wong wrote to Joel Devlin -- TW> Could it be that someone has the same name as me??? The possibility exists. --- PPoint 2.00 * Origin: Junyer's Workshop (1:342/1022.2)