--------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 171 VIRUS INFO Ref: E3T00002 Date: 03/20/97 From: PAUL WALKER Time: 11:13am \/To: GENE PARIS (Read 2 times) Subj: Hoax virus warnings, etc .... Hi Gene, Quoting Gene Paris to Lukas-Fabian Moser, on 16 Mar 97 GP> E-mail Viruses are all hoaxes by definition Lukas. No one with an GP> ounce of sense believes in them. Agreed, but you may want to be careful here - there /is/ a word macro virus (sharefun) which tries to use MS Mail to send itself out to people listed in the address book. I don't think it does it very well - but it's only a matter of time. --- FMail 1.02 * Origin: There can be only one! (2:442/621.13) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 171 VIRUS INFO Ref: E3T00003 Date: 03/23/97 From: ANDRE CARBONNEAU Time: 09:21am \/To: ALL (Read 2 times) Subj: Norton anti-virus 2.o Hi all, I am looking for info regarding setting for my antivirus to scan my internet download prior to saving to my download directory. I thought that when downloading from internet the antivirus was suppose to scan for virus and clear it as virus free and then lets you save it to your download directory. It does not do so when i download, the files i download goes straight to my download directory without being check by norton antivirus. Can someone tell me how to set norton to scan before saving to my download directory. Thank you for your help. --- Maximus 3.01 * Origin: BitByters BBS, Rockland ON, Can. (613)446-7773 v34, (1:163/215) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 171 VIRUS INFO Ref: E3T00004 Date: 03/21/97 From: SHAUN BUDDING Time: 07:51am \/To: DYLAN SIDES (Read 2 times) Subj: Viruses Thanks Man, I will now leave you alone.. If you have any good newz on a virus and other things please write to me about it.. Thanks for the help Shaun Budding *8-) --- Maximus/2 2.02 * Origin: The Perth PC Users Group BBS (3:690/650) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 171 VIRUS INFO Ref: E3T00005 Date: 03/22/97 From: KURT WISMER Time: 10:35am \/To: ANDREAS MARX (Read 2 times) Subj: Re: First Virus in thw w -=> Mocking Andreas to Paul <=- (Mock, mOck, moCk, mocK) > He might be talking about Bliss, but I'm not sure how successful it is. AM> It is neither the first virus nor the virus is in-the-wild. I've AM> already around 17 linux viruses - the first I got 1991! So you can AM> say that Bliss is only a stupid marketing gag from McAfee to sold AM> their Linux-version better. ummm, no... if you have other viruses for linux you should perhaps send them to av companies... i've not heard much talk about any other linux viruses from people like frisk or vesselin or dr solomon, or jimmy kuo or anyone else involved in av development (they all frequent comp.virus and alt.comp.virus)... are you sure they're viruses? have you replicated each one of them for multiple generations? ... ow that you know that i know that you know that i kn... --- Maximus 2.02 * Origin: Virus Watch BBS ,[(416)654-3814] (1:250/503) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 171 VIRUS INFO Ref: E3T00006 Date: 03/22/97 From: KURT WISMER Time: 10:42am \/To: ALEXANDER BUDNICKY (Read 2 times) Subj: Re: VIRUSES -=> Mocking Alexander to Shaun <=- (Mock, mOck, moCk, mocK) SB> Write back eh, AB> Do my english understand anybody? only barely... but at least you try... by the way, the above sentence would have read better like this "does anybody understand my english?"... a simple rearrangment of the words made all the difference... i'm sure with practice you'll become quite understandable... ... i am behaving myself, this is just like me... --- Maximus 2.02 * Origin: Virus Watch BBS ,[(416)654-3814] (1:250/503) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 171 VIRUS INFO Ref: E3T00007 Date: 03/22/97 From: KURT WISMER Time: 04:47pm \/To: KUNO WOUDT (Read 2 times) Subj: Re: Thanks Man -=> Mocking Kuno to Kurt <=- (Mock, mOck, moCk, mocK) KW> actually, as i recall sarah gordon's study of computer virus writers KW> showed them to be for the most part just adolescent kids with a lot of KW> computer knowledge... (the same mentality as those kids who might commit KW> a some petty theft, or vandalize property with spray paint)... KW> I don't agree with this. There is a large group of virus authors who KW> don't release their virussen in the wild, but instead release the KW> sourcecode in virus magazines. yes, in essense, they're letting other people spread their viruses for them because they are smart enough to know that doing it themselves is of questionable legal integrity and could get them in a mess of trouble... KW> These people are not of the mentality KW> described above, actually, those people you site were also part of sarah gordon's study... they are of a very similar mentality, instead of being explicitly present when the dirty work is being done, they put the materials for the dirty work in a place where they know that it will get into the hands of someone who will actually perform their dirty work for them... sorta like hiring someone at zero cost to go and perform the vandalism for you... (made possible because of all the posers and wannabes in the vx crowd)... KW> as they find satisfaction in defeating the operating KW> system or anti-virus software, NOT in harming others or their KW> property. utterly false... if they found complete satisfaction in simply defeating an anti-virus product, they'd never need to release their virus or source code at all, they could just keep the virus on their computer where no one can see it and scan it with progressively newer and newer scanners until eventually one of them picks it up in heuristics mode... they release the viruses, that means they derive something from the spreading of potentially dangerous materials... they are not completely satified by simply defeating an av product... KW> Their virusses do get into the wild however,.. kids who are KW> too lazy to write or learn to write virusses themselves will grab the KW> virus sourcecode from a virus magazine and compile and spread it,.. the KW> slightly less lazy kids might even insert a payload themselves. These KW> virus spreaders are the real vandals. they are both vandals... the only difference is that the ones who release their viruses in magazines have managed to find a way to vandalize while being even further separated from the vandalization than they would have been if they had spread infected executables themselves... furthermore, they know that it's more efficient to spread the code to all the little wannabes since the collective wannabes will have access to a greater number of systems than the virus writer would by him/herself.... KW> Then again, a certain amount of virus authors definitly will spread KW> their own virusses.. yes, because they're stupid.. KW> no viruses destroy hardware, KW> Not intentionally anyway :) no known virus has ever destroyed hardware, intentionally or otherwise... KW> all viruses alter software KW> Not true, companion virusses don't. companion viruses alter software data objects (the fat), they also alter the execution sequence of your programs... KW> ! Origin: Klik uit. (2:2801/201.9) it's ever so confusing quoting someone with the same initials as me.. ... incest... a game the whole family can play... --- Blue Wave v?.?? [NR] * Origin: fks Online! * Ontario, Canada * (905)820-7273 * (1:259/423) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 171 VIRUS INFO Ref: E3T00008 Date: 03/22/97 From: KURT WISMER Time: 05:21pm \/To: DAVID DESROSIERS (Read 2 times) Subj: Re: Hoax virus warnings, -=> Mocking David to Richard <=- (Mock, mOck, moCk, mocK) DD> Not anymore... (BTW, Lotus Notes viruses are next (well, DD> Domino viruses, actually, since there is no more "Notes" to speak of)). i had a question about that in a virus conference in north america net... someone wanted to know if there were any lotus notes specific anti-virus products... and what happened to lotus notes? did people not like the escrowing of 24 bits of the key? ... Virus Alert/Tagline Virus, avoid "Virus Alert" infected taglines... --- Blue Wave v?.?? [NR] * Origin: fks Online! * Ontario, Canada * (905)820-7273 * (1:259/423) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 171 VIRUS INFO Ref: E3T00009 Date: 03/20/97 From: ROB VANDEWEYER Time: 07:55am \/To: PAUL WALKER (Read 2 times) Subj: First Virus in thw world for Linux Hello Paul, On 13-Mar-97 23:36:28, Paul Walker wrote to John Aldred about: First Virus in thw world for Linux PW> He might be talking about Bliss, but I'm not sure how successful it is. Bliss is a Linux 'virus', but not the kind we are used to in dos or Windows. It isn't 'out in the wild'. But it's a virus made for Linux, with full source code ... A sort of 'learning virus'. Greetz, Rob Vandeweyer (2:292/401.115) - ... IBM: OS/2 will never die (just like disco ...) --- Terminate 4.00/Pro * Origin: -= Rob Vandeweyer, pointing to Linux at InfoCenter = (2:292/401.115) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 171 VIRUS INFO Ref: E3T00010 Date: 03/23/97 From: PATRICK WILSON Time: 07:01pm \/To: MATTHEW KING (Read 2 times) Subj: F-Prot -> Hi All! -> -> What is the newest version of F-Prot? I think that it is Febuary -> 1997, is this correct? I don't know the date on it, but it's 2.26, AFAIK. --- PCBoard (R) v15.3/M 2 * Origin: The Midnight Cafe * Tampa, FL. * (813) 831-6808 (1:377/54) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 171 VIRUS INFO Ref: E3T00011 Date: 03/22/97 From: MARTIN ROESLER Time: 03:21pm \/To: GENE PARIS (Read 2 times) Subj: Hoax virus warnings, etc .... Hi Gene! Sorry to break in here, but Sunday, 16th of March 1997 11:02, Gene Paris rote to Lukas-Fabian Moser: LM>> which uses MS Mail to LM>> spread infected files? I think, not all such warnings all hoaxes... LM>> ok, goodtimes ("destroy the cpu" :-) is nonsens, but other things LM>> like that _are_ possible and _have been_ done! GP> E-mail Viruses are all hoaxes by definition Lukas. No one with an ounce GP> of sense believes in them. Aehm, you might have overread one point: There IS a virus, using MS Mail to send infected fileattaches ! The "E-mail Virus", as you wrote, needs a little better definition. I know ou wrote about all the "do not read ..." virus-warnings, and if you define this as "E-mail Viruses", you are absolutly right, but how would you call the other one ? bye mrj Moderator VIRUS.GER --- GoldED/2 2.42.G0614 * Origin: Virus Help Munich BBS - call 49-8638-881108 (2:2480/8849)