--------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 169 ARCADE Ref: DBZ00017 Date: 07/29/96 From: JEREMY SMELTZER Time: 02:46am \/To: JUAN LIN (Read 1 times) Subj: Cartridge vs. CD -=> Quoting Juan Lin to Jeremy Smeltzer <=- -=> Quoting Jeremy Smeltzer to John Moore <=- JM> -> I couldn't help but get involved with this debate between you JM> -> Vandegrift. I'm not taking sides here, I have owned a Saturn and Play JM> -> CD-ROM is only a MEDIUM! Cartridge is just another form of MEDIUM. It JM> -> that a CD-ROM has more storage capability. (over 650 megs) However, V JM> -> games even come remotely close to using that amount. Usually a lot of JM> -> is wasted on useless crap like full motion video, which most people a JM> -> does nothing for a game... JM> -> A CD can hold 74 minutes of uncompressed digital audio at a sampling JM> -> 48kHz. That spec is relative to a flow through of 1.4 megabit per sec JM> -> Most audio on the Saturn or Playstation doesn't come close to this sp JM> -> (Hell, the signal to noise ratio on today's video game systems make m JM> -> to hurl!) The fact remains that a CD carries a DIGITAL audio signal, JM> -> cartridge or something like a raw PC hard disc drive. The encoding pr JM> -> remains the same for all formats, so the overall sound quality is lim JM> -> the encoding and original sound parameters, not the medium. Remember JM> -> medium only stores the data. Other chips do the actual sound processi JM> -> my opinion, the sound quality of the Saturn and Playstation both come JM> -> short. How the N64's sound will come out remains to be seen, but keep JM> -> it won't be limited by the medium. JM> Ya know what, thanks for your information. At least you can present it JM> in a kind fashion instead of this moron Kai. He is probably older than JM> me as everyone here is, and has the IQ of a 4 year old!! JS> Thanx man. I try to stay as unbiased as possible. I do believe that JS> the N64 will be the best system, but I have to give the Playstation JS> it's due. It's a great system that has gained startling popularity. JS> That surprises me cuz even the Saturn has better technical specs. JS> However, the deciding factor of whether a system succeeds or fails is JS> if it has quality games. The Playstation does, the N64 looks like it JS> will, and the Saturn might as well just die. Hopefully the systems of JS> the future will use DVD-ROM (or super CD) rumored to carry 41 gigs of JS> data (!!!!!!) instead of the CD. Then maybe sound quality could JS> actually reach "CD-quality" (an overused phrase) because today's JS> systems fall short. JL> about the dvd thing... do you think that is the reason why nintendo is JL> taking so long in releasing n64? JL> it's an interesting idea... :) JL> -!- JL> ! Origin: The Sight & Sound BBS (416)665-6908 (1:259/532) Nope. As far as I know, DVD has nothing to do with the N64. Nintendo's reason for all the delays is to put finishing touches on games. (If you believe that anyway.) DVD will find most of its' use in audio/video, and especially computers. Jeremy ... Drop your carrier ... we have you surrounded! --- * Origin: tH dG o RLt - Deltona, Florida - (407)574-0284 (1:3618/8) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 169 ARCADE Ref: DBZ00018 Date: 07/29/96 From: JEREMY SMELTZER Time: 02:49am \/To: JOHN MOORE (Read 1 times) Subj: Cartridge vs. CD -=> Quoting JOHN MOORE to JEREMY SMELTZER <=- -> JM> -> Thanx man. I try to stay as unbiased as possible. I do believ -> JM> -> will be the best system, but I have to give the Playstation i -> JM> -> great system that has gained startling popularity. That surpr -> JM> -> the Saturn has better technical specs. However, the deciding -> JM> -> whether a system succeeds or fails is if it has quality games -> JM> -> Playstation does, the N64 looks like it will, and the Saturn -> JM> -> just die. Hopefully the systems of the future will use DVD-RO -> JM> -> rumored to carry 41 gigs of data (!!!!!!) instead of the CD. -> JM> -> quality could actually reach "CD-quality" (an overused phrase -> JM> -> today's systems fall short. -> JM> Exactly. Ya know what I heard about DVD is it can only hold 7 t -> JM> the data of a cd bout 4 gigs, and read it up to 30 times faster. -> JM> very impressive. -> -> -> Well the first DVD drives should carry at least 20gigs. The 41gigabyt -> mentioned would apply to both sides of the disc together carrying raw -> (I'm not sure yet if that is a compression spec though...) Either way -> will have a huge impact on Home Theater, computers, and hopefully if -> prices come down later, video games. The mass storage would open up m -> possibilities. The only problem I see with using it for video games i -> programmers will waste a lot of space. They hardly use up a full CD t -> -> -> --- JM> I cant remember, is M2 going to be cartridge, cd or dvd?? I cant wait JM> till a DVD system comes out and technology only gets better so what JM> after that?? HAHa JM> -!- GOMail v1.2 [92-0559] JM> ! Origin: USS Enterprise Englewood, FL. (941)473-1246 (1:137/410) Well, as far as I know, M2 is only a chipset which will use exsisting formats. Unfortunately, no video game systems plan to use DVD yet, understandably because of price. (The first consumer drives for A/V use will not drop below $499) Jeremy ... RAM = Rarely Adequate Memory --- * Origin: tH dG o RLt - Deltona, Florida - (407)574-0284 (1:3618/8) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 169 ARCADE Ref: DBZ00019 Date: 07/29/96 From: SCOTT EDDY Time: 10:48am \/To: JUAN LIN (Read 2 times) Subj: MK Triology PC -> -=> Quoting Scott Eddy to Simon Pelsser <=- -> -> SE> O.K. You won't see Johnny Cage because Daniel Pesina (who plays -> SE> as well as the ninjas originally) left Midday due to personal pro -> SE> As far as I know, Boon & Tobias have no plans to recast the part. -> SE> However, you actually can use Johnny Cage. If you do Ermac's -> SE> Friendship, he takes his mask off to reveal himself as Cage. -> SE> As for the new hidden characters, I still haven't seen Goro, have -> -> that ermac thing is cool... does he have shades? Good question. I will find out. --- Platinum Xpress/386/Wildcat! v1.2j * Origin: B's Board Fun for all ages (304)295-7156 (1:2210/60) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 169 ARCADE Ref: DBZ00020 Date: 07/29/96 From: SCOTT EDDY Time: 10:58am \/To: JUAN LIN (Read 1 times) Subj: Toshinden II Boss Codes Maybe you can help me, because you seem to be a Tohshinden fan. I've been trying to find the boss codes for the American version of part 2. The Japanese code is: When the Options form on the screen, on Controller 1, press L1 L2 Triangle R1 R2 Square You will hear a chime telling you it worked. Go to the ? and hold Select to slow down the Random Select. You will find Uranus and Master. After you have done the above code, reset the game by pausing. When the Options form on the screen, on Controller 2, press Square R2 R1 Triangle L2 L1 You will hear a chime telling you it worked. You will find Sho and Vermillion as well now using the ?. I have the American version, and I haven't heard anyone who owns it to get the Japanese code to work. Is it the same for the American version, or is it different? --- Platinum Xpress/386/Wildcat! v1.2j * Origin: B's Board Fun for all ages (304)295-7156 (1:2210/60) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 169 ARCADE Ref: DBZ00021 Date: 07/28/96 From: TOM GINRAS Time: 02:19pm \/To: SKULLY (Read 1 times) Subj: Re: golden axe S> The BEST arcade game ever.. I got so good at this game that me and my friend S> beat it on 3 quarters 1 for me 2 for him Yeah, I remember when I first played the game at the arcade. It was really great at that time, and I really spent a lot of time on it. Remember when the old Double Dragon first came to the arcades? Only that can compare to Golden Axe. --- GEcho 1.00 * Origin: The Echo BBS - MA - (508)883-3894 (1:333/894) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 169 ARCADE Ref: DBZ00022 Date: 07/28/96 From: TOM GINRAS Time: 02:22pm \/To: JUAN LIN (Read 1 times) Subj: Re: something new please JL> the BEST sidescroller i ever played was Alien vs. Predator for the rcades JL> BEST EVER!!! Did you ever play Aliens in the arcade? I never heard of Alien vs. redator, but I played Aliens, which was an awsome sidescroller. --- GEcho 1.00 * Origin: The Echo BBS - MA - (508)883-3894 (1:333/894) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 169 ARCADE Ref: DBZ00023 Date: 07/28/96 From: TOM GINRAS Time: 02:24pm \/To: JUAN LIN (Read 1 times) Subj: Re: something new please JL> the turtle game (first 4 player i played) was AWESOME!!! JL> JL> X-men was too... mmm... dunno... $#ITTY? :D JL> JL> but alien vs predator was the best... 4 players too!!! What about The Simpsons? That ruled, and you can't forget Double Dragon, that was the beginning of all the side scrolling fighters. --- GEcho 1.00 * Origin: The Echo BBS - MA - (508)883-3894 (1:333/894) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 169 ARCADE Ref: DBZ00024 Date: 07/27/96 From: MIKE KIRSHBAUM Time: 12:20pm \/To: ALL (Read 2 times) Subj: UMK3 Anyone got any dibs yet on Rain? --- Now Open, 2DA PUBLIC * Origin: NeXus BBS * DUAL USR * Mississauga * 905-803-8535 (1:259/734) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 169 ARCADE Ref: DBZ00025 Date: 07/29/96 From: CHRIS COLE Time: 10:03am \/To: ERWIN LEE (Read 1 times) Subj: Mitsurugi EL> play so the question still stands regardless of what people say..... if EL> you know what I mean.... Any new arcade games come out lately? :) Dunno , haven't been out all that much , I would really like to play Street Fighter Alpha 2 but no local arcades have it... --- ProBoard v2.15 [Reg] * Origin: The Dead Zone " My Kingdom for a Quarter!!! " (1:108/430) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 169 ARCADE Ref: DB^00000 Date: 07/30/96 From: SCOTT EDDY Time: 12:22pm \/To: ERIC SMITH (Read 1 times) Subj: Xmen coa -> Does anyone know if the're planin on makin a home version of that -> game cause IIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIII LIKE IT!!!!!! -> It is already out on Saturn & soon on PSX ( if not already.) --- Platinum Xpress/386/Wildcat! v1.2j * Origin: B's Board Fun for all ages (304)295-7156 (1:2210/60)