--------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 167 NO PIRACY Ref: F5G00001 Date: 04/16/98 From: JUDY LETOSTAK Time: 06:21pm \/To: WAYNE DELISLE SR. (Read 0 times) Subj: Re: MP3s=Warez? WD> Thanks, is there software that I can use on my PC to create MP# files? There's tons, Xing for Windoze, lots of DOS like CDDA and Windac for 95. goto www.mp3.com --- MysticToss 1.20/Pro * Origin: Guilde of High Sorcery (619)575-8249 San Diego, CA (1:202/1100) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 167 NO PIRACY Ref: F5G00002 Date: 04/16/98 From: JUDY LETOSTAK Time: 06:23pm \/To: JOE LEE (Read 0 times) Subj: Re: MP3s=Warez? JL> Hey Judy, I heard something about that too. I would go into detail JL> about it, but I can't remember what my instructor told me about it. I'm a JL> comp sci student. You take MP3s and burn them into a CDRom. They're even making portable MP3 players so you don't need a computer to listen to music. Think about it. 200-300 free songs on one cdrom. CD Quality... Mp3s just might put the record companies out of business if the bands/artists consider utilizing it. They only make pennies off of each CD/Tape sold, they make their money off of touring and merchandise. When I get into another band, that's the way I'll go. --- MysticToss 1.20/Pro * Origin: Guilde of High Sorcery (619)575-8249 San Diego, CA (1:202/1100) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 167 NO PIRACY Ref: F5G00003 Date: 04/28/98 From: JACK SARGEANT Time: 01:20pm \/To: ALL (Read 0 times) Subj: Where is everyone? Let's hear it from youze guys nd goils! Jack --- FMail 1.22 * Origin: -=Keep Watching the Skies=- Netmail: (1:379/12) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 167 NO PIRACY Ref: F5G00004 Date: 04/28/98 From: WAYNE DELISLE SR. Time: 02:25pm \/To: ALL (Read 0 times) Subj: the rules Updated Feb. 28, 1998 NOPIRACY Rules (New, Jan. 27, 1998) Comment from the Moderator. The rules for the NOPIRACY ECHO are a work in progress. I have started out with a simple, straight forward set of generic rules, to which I will add or change as circumstances dictate. The less problems I have in the echo, the less the rules will be changed. A new feature of the rules for the NOPIRACY ECHO will be a listing of all people who are permanetly banned from this echo. Mr. Sheppard Gordon has the singular distinction of being the first person to recieve this honor... ========================================================================== ----==== List of people permanetly banned from the NOPIRACY ECHO ====---- 1. Sheppard Gordon. 2. 3. ========================================================================== The Rules |1. The NOPIRACY conference is a echo devoted to the discussion of computer | piracy, and how to deal with it. | |1.a The moderator is always right, in all disputes about any rule, or about | settling disagreements between the moderator and any other person in this | echo. | |1.b The moderator may remove anyone from this echo, for any reason, or for | no reason at all. 2. Issues raised in this conference should be related to Computer data and Software piracy, but any relevent thread will be allowed, at the moderators' discression. 3. This conference may not be gated into any Network other than FidoNet without the prior approval of the moderator(s). Access is otherwise un-restricted as to who may post. 4. Users are required to post using their real names. The use of aliases is not permitted. 5. The moderator(s) reserve(s) the right to declare any thread off-topic when, in their opinion, it becomes counter-productive or otherwise interfers with the smooth running of the conference. |6. Flameing, name calling, personal insults, and all gutter or bathroom | language is strictly forbidden. Personal attacks by anyone against | anyone else is strictly forbidden, under any circumstances. |7. Leave the moderating to the moderator(s). Any discussion regarding the | decisions of the moderator(s) or the rules of this echo should be handled | via NetMail to one or both of the moderators. Arguing with the moderator(s) | in the echo for any reason, is strictly forbidden. If you have a beef ith | a moderator, take it to netmail, or email. 8. When a moderator feels the need to deal with a person or thread, the moderator will clearly state that this is a moderator request at the top of the post. |9. When a conference rule has been violated, the moderator(s) will document | the violation, in the echo, and will request the offender to stop such | behavior. Also, a netmail will be sent to the Sysop from which the post | originated, informing said sysop of the infraction, and advising of the | actions that will be taken, should the offense continue. |10. The possible actions consist of, but are not limited to, reducing | access to read-only, voluntary non-participation, and/or temporary | or permanent loss of access to the conference. A participant's past | history in this or any other conference will be taken into account | when determining which of the possible actions will be taken. | | In cases of gross violation of the conference rules, the moderator(s) | reserve the right to take emergency action at their discretion. 11. Treat others how you would have them treat you, write to people as if they were in the same room with you, and above all else, HAVE FUN! Wayne DeLisle Sr. Moderator Of Record. Sysop, The Matrix BBS Fidonet: 1:379/33 | Email: ali00wwd@email.uncc.edu Jack Sargeant Alternate MOR Fidonet: 1:379/12 --- SBBS 1.17reg Fmail/2reg * Origin: Get free echomail via FTP. see WWW.sestar.net (1:379/33) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 167 NO PIRACY Ref: F5G00005 Date: 04/28/98 From: TOM HOLMES Time: 04:04pm \/To: CHRIS SMAIL (Read 0 times) Subj: Re: hackers? piracy? *** Quoting Chris Smail from a message to Alexis Shamku *** AS> if you guys say that hackers and pirates are basically the same thing AS> then that must mean that I am a hacker no? AS> Thanks -Dark Demon Email: dark__demon@hotmail.com THATS TWO OF _'s! CS> yes and i am the hacker. The true leet hacker, the one that quests You honestly think hackers and pirates are the same? Why? I don't see much similarity except for obviously falling under the computer crimes laws. --- FMail 1.02 * Origin: St. Drake College BBS [604] 581-1417 (1:153/9102) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 167 NO PIRACY Ref: F5G00006 Date: 04/29/98 From: JACK SARGEANT Time: 05:40pm \/To: TOM HOLMES (Read 0 times) Subj: hackers? piracy? > *** Quoting Chris Smail from a message to Alexis Shamku *** > AS> if you guys say that hackers and pirates are basically the same thing > AS> then that must mean that I am a hacker no? > AS> Thanks -Dark Demon Email: dark__demon@hotmail.com THATS TWO OF _'s! > CS> yes and i am the hacker. The true leet hacker, the one that quests > You honestly think hackers and pirates are the same? > Why? I don't see much similarity except for obviously falling under > the computer crimes laws. I've got a rather simple approach. The pirate will steal programs and use them for his own gain. A hacker will steal programs and use them for his own gain. Both will sometimes leave a wake of destruction behind them. ...If it walks like a duck and quacks like a duck... Regards, Jack E-Mail: ufo1@juno.com - Internet ICQ #11032924 --- FMail 1.22 * Origin: -=Keep Watching the Skies=- Netmail: (1:379/12) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 167 NO PIRACY Ref: F5N00000 Date: 05/14/98 From: JUDY LETOSTAK Time: 07:41pm \/To: JACK SARGEANT (Read 0 times) Subj: Re: hackers? piracy? > JS> It's still a matter of engaging in illegal activities. How can you > JS> justify that? JS> > The same way the US government does. JS> JS> Well, I'll not drag this on, other than to emphasize my disagreement JS> with your basic philosophy regarding honesty and values. in other words, he gotcha on that one! Do you ever go over the 65mph speed limit? Or whatever yer freeway speed limit is? Then yer breaking the law...Ever cuss in public? Yer breaking the law, ever engage in questionable sexual practices? Then yer breaking the w. What's the difference? none! --- MysticToss 1.20/Pro * Origin: Guilde of High Sorcery (619)575-8249 San Diego, CA (1:202/1100) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 167 NO PIRACY Ref: F5W00000 Date: 05/15/98 From: JACK SARGEANT Time: 09:15am \/To: JUDY LETOSTAK (Read 0 times) Subj: hackers? piracy? >> JS> It's still a matter of engaging in illegal activities. How can you >> JS> justify that? > JS> >> The same way the US government does. > JS> > JS> Well, I'll not drag this on, other than to emphasize my disagreement > JS> with your basic philosophy regarding honesty and values. > in other words, he gotcha on that one! > Do you ever go over the 65mph speed limit? Or whatever yer freeway > speed > limit is? Then yer breaking the law...Ever cuss in public? Yer > breaking the > law, ever engage in questionable sexual practices? Then yer > breaking the law. What are questionable sexual practices? --- FMail 1.22 * Origin: -=Keep Watching the Skies=- Netmail: (1:379/12) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 167 NO PIRACY Ref: FA300000 Date: 05/19/98 From: TOM HOLMES Time: 06:48pm \/To: JACK SARGEANT (Read 0 times) Subj: Re: hackers? piracy? *** Quoting Jack Sargeant from a message to Tom Holmes *** > The same way the US government does. JS> Well, I'll not drag this on, other than to emphasize my disagreement JS> with your basic philosophy regarding honesty and values. What? What do you think the government lacks? Well, I'm a thief. I do a lot of illegal things. I can't even roll out of bed in the morning and check my e-mail without breaking the law. And the software I have came from my ISP, and IT'S pirated software. --- FMail 1.02 * Origin: St. Drake College BBS [604] 581-1417 (1:153/9102) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 167 NO PIRACY Ref: FA300001 Date: 05/19/98 From: TOM HOLMES Time: 06:52pm \/To: JUDY LETOSTAK (Read 0 times) Subj: Re: hackers? piracy? *** Quoting Judy Letostak from a message to Jack Sargeant *** JL> in other words, he gotcha on that one! Do you ever go over the 65mph JL> speed limit? Or whatever yer freeway speed limit is? Then yer JL> breaking the law...Ever cuss in public? Yer breaking the law, ever JL> engage in questionable sexual practices? Then yer breaking the law. Well, average freeway limit around here is between 70 and 90 kph, surface streets are 50kph. I only drive on one freeway, and I normally do in excess of 120, on surface streets I'll do around 70, unless I see a police cruiser or a heavy Ford sedan, I'll drop to a little below 60. I swear in public, I fire weapons in national parks. I am the devil incarnate, OK?!? I don't know ANYONE who doesn't break the law at LEAST once a week. JL> What's the difference? none! Difference between what and what? --- FMail 1.02 * Origin: St. Drake College BBS [604] 581-1417 (1:153/9102)