--------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 167 NO PIRACY Ref: D5K00026 Date: 05/09/96 From: MIKE GILLAM Time: 08:37pm \/To: CLARK DULA (Read 0 times) Subj: Pir8 =========================================================================== BBS: COMPUTER WORKS TECH SUPPORT Date: 04-29-96 (15:47) Number: 54 From: CLARK DULA Refer#: NONE To: ALL Recvd: NO Subj: Pir8 Conf: (644) F-Piracy/C --------------------------------------------------------------------------- CD>Pirates suck! CD>There is this dude that runs a bbs around here... CD>the number is (704) 428-4259 CD>his bbs is cool and all...but he has these few dir. that have stuff in CD>them..if you know what I mean... CD>Pri8's run up the prices on computer software for everyone.. CD>Tracker CD>Clark IF THE ABOVE WHERE TRUE THEN NENTENDO WOULD BE A HELL OF ALOT CHEAPER!!!!!!!!!!!!!! SLMR 2.1a Backup not found: (A)bort (R)etry (P)anic --- Michiana's Mail Hub! * Origin: CW Technical Support - South Bend, IN - (219) 272-8129 (1:227/129) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 167 NO PIRACY Ref: D5K00027 Date: 05/09/96 From: JASON WEILL Time: 10:38pm \/To: R.J. WOODS (Read 0 times) Subj: Win96 Replying to a message of R.j. Woods to All: RW> Windows 96 (Nashville) totaly sucks. Don't waste your time! Get RW> Windows NT 4.0 beta isnted! Just a statment! Why would an end-user want to run Windows NT?! Jason Weill, SysOp of DaCool BBS [Team OS/2] [Team RAUSW] [Team MDNDP] WebWorld -- Promoting the Free Exchange of Information http://www.northeast.net/~jweill --- FMail 1.02 * Origin: DaCool BBS - (516)496-4956 - Syosset, NY (1:2619/133) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 167 NO PIRACY Ref: D5K00028 Date: 05/15/96 From: SCOTT TEILHABER Time: 07:43am \/To: ALL (Read 0 times) Subj: Moderator Oh boy, I guess winning once is not enough for you folks. Vote for me for a better kinder no piracy! Cheers, Scott Teilhaber ... All unattended children will be sold as slaves!:) --- Blue Wave/TG v2.12 [NR] * Origin: Joes' "But of Course" Number Not Listed!:) (1:2624/205.0) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 167 NO PIRACY Ref: D5K00029 Date: 05/15/96 From: KIRK BAILEY Time: 10:52am \/To: ERIC WINCHESTER (Read 0 times) Subj: Re: No more piracy! Acid draw? You want a copy? Email me your snail-mail address! specify disk type (3.5"/1.44 is standard, but who knows?) in the mail. I have a good assortment of utils for paperless publishing,and am about to start a specialized shareware house to support that art. Want a copy of the betaware catalog on that disk too? Kirk Bailey, Prime moron and Cheif idiot what be in charge gRINNING iDIOT pRESS COmpany (GIPCO) (A subversive Zenarchist Conspiracy) 880 118 terr n #3 St Petersburg FL 33716 (183)578-4812. Hail Eris. --- Platinum Xpress/Wildcat! v1.2j * Origin: Explore The Commonwealth BBS @ 813.961.4730 (1:377/24) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 167 NO PIRACY Ref: D5K00030 Date: 05/15/96 From: KIRK BAILEY Time: 11:41am \/To: GORAN GENERALIC (Read 0 times) Subj: 3,5 FD protection I only know a partial solution to copy protection. ANT data structure can be duplicated, BUT you can encrypt it to prevent changes or reverse engineering it. Dongles are hardware devices which are difficult to duplicate, which allow you to limit the number of copies you can use to 1- but good pirates copy the data in it and create shells to intercept the data requests and supply the data required; it is usually possible to examine the mem field of a computer to see the decrypted program (it cannot run until decrypted) and capture that to a file for later hacking. Much of this is a logical consequence of what a computer is and how they work. To truely prevent unauthorized duplication requires a medium of storage not easily duplicated by uesers, using write devices not commonly supported by existing hardware in the field. CD-ROM *WAS* suck a technique, and publishers jumped on this piracy resistant technology. Now that Write capable CD drives are coming down in price and becoming common, the old issues are coming back again. The best solution is to FEATURE the problem-shareware, low registration fees, and PERSONAL ETHICS. If you really like it, encourage the pubisher with shipments of $$$. The alternative will be the licensing of PROMS & EPROMS, shipping data as mask programmed rom cartridges, and the making illegal of floppy and floppy drive sales except for replacement on old systems. Authors are not slaves; neither are publishers. They expect to be rewarded for their efforts, and will quit if not, leaving the field to a few brillant amateurs, LOTS of poor quality programmers, and some hobbiests. Unfortunately, we need data and software, and lots of it in our society. This means the rewards for providing those must be there, and the social mechinism to deliver them and protect them must also be there, or the social order breaks down. Piracy will always be with us to some extent. If it is a minority it is tolerable. If it is the rule the industry collapses. In economics in general, robbery is the exception; when it becomes the rule, no-one is making wealth, everyone is stealing it, and when the existing pool of wealth is used up, the society in question collapses. Rome collapsed before the hordes of the northmen sackers and vandal sackers, not to mention the domestic sort who became wealthy at the nation's expense. When it got bad enough, a few people found ways to stop bleeding to death economically. To establish a social order, there need to be some limited rules. Pirates step outside these rules. So do Brigands, theives, and slave takers. Eack wants someone else to live and work for their benifit for no reward. Each makes some simple or convoluted claim to moral right to the other person's labor. Each is a parasite. DDT was invented to kill parasites. -Kirk D Bailey Grinning Idiot Press 880 118 terr n #3 St Petersburg FL 33716 (813)578-4812 --- Platinum Xpress/Wildcat! v1.2j * Origin: Explore The Commonwealth BBS @ 813.961.4730 (1:377/24) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 167 NO PIRACY Ref: D5K00031 Date: 05/15/96 From: KIRK BAILEY Time: 11:49am \/To: GORAN GENERALIC (Read 0 times) Subj: Unregistered prod. sold YES. If you use an unregistered version of NeoBook, and you sell the product, you have violated copyright laws. While as a crime the penalty is mild, **IT IS A LICENSE FOR THE COPYRIGHT OWNER TO SUE YOU INTO SLAVERY.** You can use unregistered items for a limited time (read docs for details; 10 days, 14 days, and 30 days are common limits), then you must register the product to continue use. Some may be used personally, but must be registered for commercial use. ALL that I have seen require registration and use of the registered version for commercial RELEASES. aS THIS MEANS YOU WENT THROUGH ALL THAT TROUBLE OF CREATING THE PRODUCT AND MAKING IT EASY FOR PEOPLE TO FIND YOU TO SEND YOU MONEY FOR NO PROFIT, it seems like a poor plan at best. If yo want to use it commercially, register that shareware!!!! Kirk D Bailey Grinning Idiot Press 880 118 terr n #3 St Petersburg FL 33716 (813)578-4812 --- Platinum Xpress/Wildcat! v1.2j * Origin: Explore The Commonwealth BBS @ 813.961.4730 (1:377/24) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 167 NO PIRACY Ref: D5K00032 Date: 05/15/96 From: KIRK BAILEY Time: 11:51am \/To: JOSH TALBOT (Read 0 times) Subj: WIN96? YES, AND A VERY LOW PROFILE ONE AT THAT. Indeed this is a police state. In any society employing undercover agents of the police or other org with the power to arrest, detain, sieze, or kill, you must assume EVERY person you meet MAY be an agent of SOMETHING. This is NOT paranoia, but logic. ANY OTHER POSITION is to ignore the facts. --- Platinum Xpress/Wildcat! v1.2j * Origin: Explore The Commonwealth BBS @ 813.961.4730 (1:377/24) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 167 NO PIRACY Ref: D5K00033 Date: 05/15/96 From: AXL SLASH Time: 12:30am \/To: JOHN MEDICA (Read 0 times) Subj: Have fun reading your mail John Medica Spoke of Have fun reading your mail to Kelly Noel on 09-May-96 JM> Have fun reading your mail.. Keep it up!! "Get More!! mailbomb" JM> So DOn't fuck /w me! Bwahahahahahahahaha!!! You call that a Mailbomb??? Get Lost Lamer... Ŀ > Axl Slash --- GodEdit 0.00 * Origin: h ghmar - EdmnŢ, lbera, Canaa! ۲ (1:342/5.3) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 167 NO PIRACY Ref: D5K00034 Date: 05/15/96 From: RAD WAREZ PUPPY! Time: 12:32am \/To: WIZ KID (Read 0 times) Subj: Pir8 WK> Pir8 Rules - So FUCk oFF U SHAREWARE Lamer WK> -!- PCBoard (R) v15.22 (OS/2) 2 WK> - Origin: FIDONET HAWK EYE BBS (416)481-7816 Toronto (1:250/1001) HaY MaNG!! LiKe kan i find lotsa WaReZ on that k00L board you post frum.. L8r d00d!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! --- ReNeBLaDe/2 alpha 13 * Origin: -=[ HACKiNG/PHREAKiNG/ANARCHY/ViRUSES ]=- (1:342/5.3)