--------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 114 SPORTS Ref: E1C00001 Date: 01/07/97 From: ED GRINNELL Time: 05:22pm \/To: JAMES DUNLOP (Read 8 times) Subj: Digger James Dunlop was thrown for a loss after he said: JD> And gained in other sports. As did ND. --- TrekEd 1.00 * Origin: Bill James, James Dunlop. Coincidence? (1:170/1701) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 114 SPORTS Ref: E1C00002 Date: 01/07/97 From: ED GRINNELL Time: 05:24pm \/To: ROB FERRARA (Read 6 times) Subj: Football Playoff Rob accepted an invitation to the Tidy Bowl by saying: RF> Eliminate rankings altogether. Take eight conference RF> champions for a three week tourney or add eight runners up RF> for a four week tourney. I see no reason to eliminate strong conferences from consideration. If it means that in one year that 1 or 2 conferences get more than two bids, I'm for it. RF> The independents will have to join a conference, form a conference, RF> or sit out. No reason to make them do it and frankly, I don't think that they could get away with it. --- TrekEd 1.00 * Origin: Does your Big Unit have a Big Hurt? (1:170/1701) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 114 SPORTS Ref: E1C00003 Date: 01/07/97 From: ED GRINNELL Time: 05:26pm \/To: MARK YODER (Read 6 times) Subj: Holtz and ND Mark Yoder was thrown for a loss after he said: MY> thumped yesterday is that I would much rather have seen them trek to the MY> Frozen Tundra and get their primadonna asses waxed by the Pack. I wouldn't have counted on that. SF thought the same thing when Dallas played them in 1992. Carolina reminds me a lot of that Dallas team. They're too stupid to be intimidated by GB and I think they have a real chance. --- TrekEd 1.00 * Origin: On the 7th day, God created the Dallas Cowboys (1:170/1701) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 114 SPORTS Ref: E1C00004 Date: 01/07/97 From: ED GRINNELL Time: 05:28pm \/To: MARK YODER (Read 6 times) Subj: Digger After being aced by Monica Seles, Mark Yoder said: MY> Do you think they gave up more than they gained? Hmmm.... Their football team lost out on some lucrative matches. MY> about that. Personally, I thought they should have joined the SEC MY> rather than ACC, The SEC doesn't make any more sense than the ACC. MY> and how the hell Miami got into the Big East is still a mystery. No more than a mystery than ND. --- TrekEd 1.00 * Origin: Bill James, James Dunlop. Coincidence? (1:170/1701) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 114 SPORTS Ref: E1C00005 Date: 01/07/97 From: ED GRINNELL Time: 05:31pm \/To: MARK YODER (Read 5 times) Subj: Football Playoff Mark was hit by a Randy Johnson fastball for uttering: MY> I thought it interesting that during the bowls on CBS, Holtz was such a MY> campaigner for the playoff system. I think it makes a lot of sense for him to be a proponent. --- TrekEd 1.00 * Origin: On the 7th day, God created the Dallas Cowboys (1:170/1701) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 114 SPORTS Ref: E1C00006 Date: 01/07/97 From: ED GRINNELL Time: 05:32pm \/To: MARK YODER (Read 5 times) Subj: Holtz Mark was hit by a Randy Johnson fastball for uttering: MY> However, I don't think I'd throw the latter group into the "Abundance of MY> Talent" group. You don't know. The fact is that they were highly thought of when ND recruited them. I think that it's a case of a coach who didn't have the ability to do anything with the talent that he had. --- TrekEd 1.00 * Origin: Does your Big Unit have a Big Hurt? (1:170/1701) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 114 SPORTS Ref: E1C00007 Date: 01/05/97 From: BILLY SELVIA Time: 05:13pm \/To: KENYON TSE (Read 5 times) Subj: Hockey Well my favorite team is the Detroit Red Wings. I know they haven't won the cup in a long time, but they still are a good team. I also like the Flames. They are a great team too. I like Trevor Kidd. He's a good goalie. Do you like any minor league teams! --- PCBoard (R) v15.3/M 2 * Origin: Out Of This World BBS * (810)238-0921 * 1:2240/410 (1:2240/410) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 114 SPORTS Ref: E1C00008 Date: 01/07/97 From: ROB FERRARA Time: 07:37pm \/To: MARK YODER (Read 5 times) Subj: Football Playoff Mark Yoder had this to say to Rob Ferrara and I quote: RF> Eliminate the need for rankings altogether. Take eight RF> conference champions or sixteen. I don't know how many RF> conferences there actually are. Independents will have to RF> join a conference, form a conference, or sit out. MY> I prefer Ed's method. Conference champions, then the next nine MY> highest ranked, non-conference champs out there. Ranking is subjective. If we're going to allow subjectivity, the playoffs would only be slightly better than what's out there now. MY> In your case, you would have left out some great teams this year MY> because they weren't conference champs. I'd give them some lead time. I'd let the independents and the conferences romance each other for five years or so and then institute the system. Those that want in will find a way and those that don't won't. My guess is those great teams you mention would find a way into a conference. Rob --- Blue Wave/DOS v2.30 * Origin: Orion's Sword | Bush, LA | (504) 867-9701 | V.* (1:3828/1) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 114 SPORTS Ref: E1C00009 Date: 01/07/97 From: ROB FERRARA Time: 07:52pm \/To: MARK YODER (Read 4 times) Subj: Bowls Mark Yoder had this to say to Rob Ferrara and I quote: RF> Yep. You wouldn't like it, though. It would not include RF> independents. MY> Why not? Independents would have to be rated since they're not champions. The idea of a football playoff, for me anyway, is to thoroughly eliminate ratings. Rob --- Blue Wave/DOS v2.30 * Origin: Orion's Sword | Bush, LA | (504) 867-9701 | V.* (1:3828/1) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 114 SPORTS Ref: E1C00010 Date: 01/07/97 From: MARK YODER Time: 07:26pm \/To: ED GRINNELL (Read 4 times) Subj: Digger Ed Grinnell was ejected for saying to Mark Yoder: EG> Big whoopie. Florida State gave up a lot to join the ACC. Maybe in football, but I say they gained quite a bit in other sports. Just as ND has gained quite a bit by joining the Big Least for all but football. -= .\\ark =- ... A good dog barks when told. --- GoldED/2 2.50+ 1547US3 * Origin: Rushmore II: Rockne, Leahy, Parsegian & Holtz (1:3634/22)