--------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 166 MUSIC Ref: F5G00058 Date: 04/22/98 From: ROGIER VAN EETEN Time: 04:32pm \/To: MAGNUS DILL (Read 0 times) Subj: Techno is DA bomb. Goedemorgen, Waarom schreef Magnus Dill op 20 Apr 98 om 16:38:09 aan Rogier Van eeten prachtig over Techno is DA bomb.? MD>RVe> Chemical as in Chemical Brothers, Prodigy MD>RVe> Gabber as in Rotterdam Termination Source, Buzz Fuzz, Rob MD>RVe> Gee, Delerium, etc MD>RVe> Trance as in Sash (but more of the same sequenses) MD>RVe> Mellow/Club as in IT :-) MD>RVe> HardTrance = Trance with a harder bassdrum and a bit faster MD>RVe> ClubTrance = a mix of Club and Trance MD>RVe> Hardhouse (I don't know a thing about it, only heard of it's MD>existense) MD>RVe> Trip-Hop (Can't give examples, someone else?) MD>RVe> Techno (Same as Trip-Hop) MD>...and what's the difference? ;-> ;-> --- Dutchie V3.03 * Origin: PARTY RICO OOOH....PARTY PEOPLE OOOH! (2:500/3.9) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 166 MUSIC Ref: F5G00059 Date: 04/21/98 From: JENNIFER SHARWARD Time: 08:54pm \/To: JASON SEIPLE (Read 0 times) Subj: The Dead Milkmen! On 04-20-98, JASON SEIPLE wrote to ALL!: JS> Have any of you people ever heard of the Punk Rock band called The JS> Dead Milkmen? Yep... I've always kind of liked their song "Punk Rock Girl." I wouldn't say I'm a "fan," but I've heard a bit of their stuff, anyhow. Jennifer NP: Yothu Yindi - *Freedom* - "Baywara" * Freddie 1.2.5 * --- HyperMail! v1.22 * Origin: Omni - (916) 388-0905, longest running Sac BBS (1:203/3333) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 166 MUSIC Ref: F5G00060 Date: 04/22/98 From: MARTIN RIDGLEY Time: 06:45am \/To: BEN CAVANAGH (Read 0 times) Subj: Wendy O. Williams =-> Quoting Ben Cavanagh to Martin Ridgley re: Wendy O. Williams dead: BC> I saw a movie that she act in in around 1988 do you know the title BC> ? In that movie she was in a jail ... Sorry, I can't help you with that one. Someone here will probably know, though. Failing that, you can check a video movie guide (look her up in the `Cast Index'), or search some recent newspapers or the internet for a biography of her career. Martin ~~~~~~~~ --- Blue Wave/386 v2.30 [NR] * Origin: The Eclectic Lab (1:153/831) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 166 MUSIC Ref: F5G00061 Date: 04/22/98 From: MARTIN RIDGLEY Time: 06:49am \/To: STEVE QUARRELLA (Read 0 times) Subj: Wendy O. Williams dead =-> Quoting Steve Quarrella to Martin Ridgley re: Wendy O. Williams dead: SQ> Didn't she have, uh, a fling with a sledgehammer in Milwaukee once, SQ> getting a lot of press for it? I have no idea. I believe she stirred up some controversy by baring her breasts on stage once though, didn't she? I really don't know very much about Wendy O.'s life and career. Martin ~~~~~~~~ --- Blue Wave/386 v2.30 [NR] * Origin: The Eclectic Lab (1:153/831) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 166 MUSIC Ref: F5G00062 Date: 04/22/98 From: MARTIN RIDGLEY Time: 07:37am \/To: JUHA NOUSIAINEN (Read 0 times) Subj: Clapton: "Pilgrim" =-> Quoting Juha Nousiainen to Martin Ridgley re: Clapton, Hendrix: JN> Okey, but have you heard Pilgrim yet? MR> No, but I want to. What do you think of it? JN> I have been listening to it, I bought to my father for his birthday. JN> The songs are good but the most annoying thing is that Clapton's JN> using a drum machine. The songs are now quite far from blues, more JN> like soul with all the choirs. I sometimes don't like the sound of drum machines either, but they do work well for a lot of stuff. As for Clapton getting away from the blues, I think that's okay - after all, he's been doing it for his whole career. I was initially quite disappointed in the laid back country-style sounds he adopted in the mid-70s (although I do think that 1977's _No Reason To Cry_ is one of his best albums ever). But everybody (including me) wanted him to go back to the blues. And on a few occasions, he did. But the results (as on _E.C. Was Here_) weren't always that great. I think we were all hoping for another _Layla_, or something. But he just did his own thing, including some film sound- tracks, and was very successful at it. It's been over a quarter of a century since _Layla_ now and I think we've come to expect that Eric Clapton is simply going to do whatever pleases him. _Unplugged_ was a pleasant surprise - a very bluesy, acoustic recording - and it became his biggest seller ever. Everyone also raved about the follow-up, _From The Cradle_, an album of electric blues and I would imagine that it sold pretty well, too. So I can fully understand why he might not want do another blues album right away. I'm kind of intrigued by the idea of him doing a soulful album with choirs and drum machines. I may like it, and I may not, but I *do* admire the fact that he's always been true to himself and done his own thing. I'm looking forward to hearing _Pilgrim_.... :-) Cheers, Martin ~~~~~~~~ ... Right now is a gift. That's why it's called `the present'! --- Blue Wave/386 v2.30 [NR] * Origin: The Eclectic Lab (1:153/831) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 166 MUSIC Ref: F5G00063 Date: 04/22/98 From: MARTIN RIDGLEY Time: 09:55am \/To: RICK MCBROOM (Read 0 times) Subj: Producers / Clapton =-> Quoting Rick Mcbroom to Martin Ridgley re: Alison Moyet / Producers: -=> Quoting Martin Ridgley to Rick Mcbroom <=- MR> I was a little disappointed that they'd used a lot of MR> pre-programmed and/or processed drum tracks on _Hoodoo_. RM> OTOH, I'm getting used to the drum machine on Clapton's new one. ;-) RM> I was a little put off at first... I just wrote a rather long-winded message (one of my bad habits) to Juha about Clapton, which you'll probably see. Anyhow, I don't like some of the 'cheesier' sounds I've heard from drum machines - some of which seem to be fairly popular these days quite - but I have to admit that sometimes they work very effectively. MR> ...only a very few producers whose work is distinctive enough to be MR> identifiable in and of itself. Daniel Lanois is one of those few, MR> and Phil Spector comes to mind as well. RM> Yikes! How could I forget Spector? His producing style is RM> certainly quite distinctive. MR> ..and of course - Sir George Martin. :-) RM> Oops! Another glaring omission! I didn't mean him as one whose sound is distinctive, but rather as one whose work I consistently like and admire. However, another producer whose sound is quite distinctive came to mind a few days ago - Jeff Lynne. Cheers, Martin ~~~~~~~~ ... I'm an amateur crastinator. Someday I'll turn pro. --- Blue Wave/386 v2.30 [NR] * Origin: The Eclectic Lab (1:153/831) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 166 MUSIC Ref: F5G00064 Date: 04/22/98 From: MARTIN RIDGLEY Time: 09:09am \/To: RICK MCBROOM (Read 0 times) Subj: Norman Blake =-> Quoting Rick Mcbroom to Martin Ridgley re: Alison Moyet / Producers: **> ... NP: Norman Blake "Church Street Blues" MR> Cool! Is that the version from his _Whiskey Before Breakfast_ MR> album (Rounder 0063)? RM> Yes. I have it on that 9-disc Rounder sampler. Cool! Is there much of Norman's stuff on there? MR> I've only got about three of his very early ones, but I love... RM> I don't have /any/ of his albums, though I do have perhaps a RM> half-dozen cuts on various samplers and compilations. I like his RM> stuff, too! He released what I believe was his first album (_Norman Blake: Home in Sulphur Springs_ -- Rounder 0012 - 1972) right around the time I was discovering American folk and bluegrass music. I think I picked it up on spec, based solely on reading the liner notes. In any case, I'd never heard him play a note until I put the needle down on Side 1. Needless to say, I was more than pleasantly surprised! :-) MR> One of his songs, "Ginseng Sullivan" has been a part of my solo MR> repertoire for almost 20 years. Do you know that one? RM> Unfortunately, no. Intriguing title, thoguh.. there's /got/ to be a RM> story behind a name like "Ginseng Sullivan"... ;-) "Ginseng Sullivan" is on that first album. All he says in the liner notes is that it's about an old herb digger he knew. The song tells the whole story though.... Okay, it goes like this: --------- Ginseng Sullivan - by Norman Blake ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ (Verse 1) About three miles from the back-tail yard, From the reverse curve on down, Not far back from the town depot, Old Sullivan's shack was found Back on the higher ground You could see him every day, Walkin' down the line With his old brown sack across his back And his long hair down behind, Speakin' his worried mind; (Refrain) It's a long way to the delta from the north Georgia hills, And a toe-sack full of ginseng won't pay no travelin' bills And I'm too old to ride the rails or thumb the road alone, Well I guess I'll never make it back to home My muddy water Mississippi delta home (Verse 2) Well the winters here they get too cold, the damp it makes me ill, You can't dig no roots in the mountain sod With the ground froze hard and still You gotta stay at the foot of the hill But next summer if things turn right, the companies will pay high I'll make enough money to pay my bills and bid these mountains good-bye Then he said with a sigh; (Refrain) It's a long way to the delta from the north Georgia hills And a toe-sack full of ginseng won't pay no travelin' bills And I'm too old to ride the rails or thumb the road alone Well I guess I'll never make it back to home My muddy water Mississippi delta home (solo; repeat refrain; end) ---------- Hmmm... I can probably do it better than that, but it's been a while... Anyhow, that gives you a rough idea. ;-) BTW, I never have figured out what `the back-tail yard' is in the first verse. I've listened to it closely *many* times and I'm pretty sure that's what he's singing, but it's not crystal clear. Any ideas? Also, FWIW the Tony Rice Unit (consisting of Ricky Skaggs, Sam Bush, Jerry Douglas, Todd Phillips, and Tony Rice) also do a superb version of the song on their album, _Manzanita_ (Rounder 0092 - 1979). (..it sounds like `back-tail yard' or something very similar on their version, too.) Cheers, Martin ~~~~~~~~ --- Blue Wave/386 v2.30 [NR] * Origin: The Eclectic Lab (1:153/831) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 166 MUSIC Ref: F5G00065 Date: 04/22/98 From: MARTIN RIDGLEY Time: 09:55am \/To: JENNIFER SHARWARD (Read 0 times) Subj: Tori Amos =-> Quoting Jennifer Sharward to Andrew Ziem re: Tori Amos: JS> On 04-11-98, ANDREW ZIEM wrote to ALL: AZ> The performance was frightening, but I shall buy the album. JS> How so? Is she getting even further "out there"? I like Tori, JS> too, but I have the distinct feeling each album is getting stranger... I had a discussion about this with a couple of friends just the other night. We all agreed that _Little Earthquakes_ is a brilliant album. We all felt that _Under The Pink_ has some great songs, but is inconsistent and showing signs of the undeniable weirdness that permeates her last album, _Boys For Pele_. For some reason I still like her though, and I'm eagerly looking forward to this new album. ;-) Martin ~~~~~~~~ ... If all the world's a stage, who's doing the sound??? --- Blue Wave/386 v2.30 [NR] * Origin: The Eclectic Lab (1:153/831) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 166 MUSIC Ref: F5G00066 Date: 04/22/98 From: MARTIN RIDGLEY Time: 09:41am \/To: RICK MCBROOM (Read 0 times) Subj: Fairport Convention =-> Quoting Rick Mcbroom to Mike Connor re: Fairport Convention: RM> Do keep looking for Liege and Lief_, it's an /exceptional/ album. Agreed! And so (IMHO) is _Unhalfbricking_! :-) Martin ~~~~~~~~ ... Sorry. It appears that this tagline was stolen before you got to it. --- Blue Wave/386 v2.30 [NR] * Origin: The Eclectic Lab (1:153/831) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 166 MUSIC Ref: F5G00067 Date: 04/22/98 From: POPPY Time: 08:29pm \/To: HENRY SPENCER (Read 0 times) Subj: Science RE: Science BY: Henry Spencer to Poppy on Mon Apr 20 1998 11:10 am > I think that is a very common thing to happen...the liking of "the music > of ones life". I still have fond memories when I hear old Jefferson > Airplane or Spirit or Jimi Hendrix. Cause I was listening to that during > my "free youth". (God, is this telling of my age or what) :-P > > I listen to The Jesus Lizard, Clutch, Bile, Korn, The Deftones, Far, > Ministry, Prong, Biohazard, and Godflesh...to mention just a few. Yeah i agree with you too, I do associate the music with my life. I admit alot of music from the 80's wasn't very talent oriented, but that was the essense of it, they were just having fun and there was no one telling you hat these people suck and that they have no talent because it was all new and all the kids related to it. I just think the 80's were awesome, i mean things were finally beginning to take shape at the time, computers, games, tv, usic, stereo, toys were still toys that required imagination, cartoons were good, o political correctness. It was just a great time. --- Synchronet+SBBSecho v1.25 * Origin: Shadow Realms BBS - Midlothian, VA. - 804-897-5431 (1:264/241)