--------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 166 MUSIC Ref: F4G00010 Date: 04/11/98 From: MAGNUS DILL Time: 07:55pm \/To: DAVE JANSEN (Read 0 times) Subj: Tina Turner movie DJ> Sure agree with you on that!! Ike Turner,has to be one of the DJ> biggest losers that the music biz has EVER produced! Tina DJ> Turner made a fortune for the dude. Ike was a pretty good musician, IMHO. (...and a pretty bad husband, IMNSHO.) --- * Origin: Kapten Bckdals skafferi (2:205/419.7) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 166 MUSIC Ref: F4G00011 Date: 04/11/98 From: SOUTHERN STAR Time: 11:42pm \/To: ALL (Read 0 times) Subj: Expired Listing Hello. The Zone 1 Backbone only carries echoes listed in the Zone 1/2 EchoList. It seems that the listing for this echo has expired. Thus, it will be necessary for someone to assume the moderatorship and list it if it is to remain on the Zone 1 Backbone. There is a three month grace period to accomplish this. For more information please consult these files: BOFAQxxx.TXT and ELISTxxx.ZIP, where "xxx" is the version number. They are available from most hubs or can be requested from 1:1/201 or 1:396/1. Regards, Zone 1 Backbone Operations --- Harvey's Robot v6.00 * Origin: Southern Star - sstar.com - V.32b/V.34+ - 504-885-5928 - (1:396/1) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 166 MUSIC Ref: F5G00000 Date: 04/11/98 From: DAVE JANSEN Time: 11:59pm \/To: BARTON CHIP (Read 0 times) Subj: The Plasmatics Well, I seen nothing at all about Williams passing on any of the network news. I missed intertainment tonight, & hard copy, so cant say what was said, if anything.Another victim of failure to acept that their time in the spotlight was over.Show biz is a meat grinder. --- Platinum Xpress/Win/Wildcat5! v2.1d * Origin: The Playhouse TC's Gaming BBS/www.phouse.com/698.3748 (1:282/4059) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 166 MUSIC Ref: F5G00001 Date: 04/11/98 From: GRANT BATDORF Time: 12:59pm \/To: BRANDON KUNKA (Read 0 times) Subj: Re: Those Gap ads GB> GB> Haven't seen those two. I have only seen the chick GB> band, Aerosmith (two of GB> them anyway), and LL cool J. I wonder who the chick band is. BK> Not sure. Maybe they're not even professional..=) Wouldn't surprise me. It would be a great marketing strategy. They would have a couple of commercials with the famous people, then some with people nobody has ever heard of. Then, people would assume the others were famous, and be talking about the commercials trying to figure out who they are. --- Maximus/2 3.01 * Origin: The Eclectic Lab (1:153/831) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 166 MUSIC Ref: F5G00002 Date: 04/11/98 From: CHUCK ALLEN Time: 07:08pm \/To: ALL (Read 0 times) Subj: Fidonet MUSCIC Echo Rules MUSIC Conference Rules "Participation in the MUSIC ECHO is a privilege not a right. It's like driving a car. A DWI or two will get you talked about as well as your license revoked." (Author Unknown) MUSIC is a general message oriented echo. Conversation is encouraged. Debate is encouraged. All discussions are open to anyone who wishes to join in. Keep the discussion relevant to MUSIC. While some cross- subject topics are inevitable (i.e. drugs or AIDS while discussing certain musicians), don't get carried away. The MODERATOR may not always be right, but his decisions are final unless he says otherwise. 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Comments, questions, and suggestions are more than welcome, and will be responded to via netmail as time permits. Kevin Crays (1:3803/6.6) Music Moderator Elaine Naiman (1:163/308) Assistant Moderator Chuck Allen (1:129/41) Nasty Assistant Moderator --- ViaMAIL!/WC4 v1.30 * Origin: Maltese Alien: Been there, done that!: (412) 279-9561 1:129/41.1) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 166 MUSIC Ref: F5G00003 Date: 04/11/98 From: CHUCK ALLEN Time: 07:14pm \/To: SEAN DENNIS (Read 0 times) Subj: COVERS Greetings Sean! On 5 April 98 Sean Dennis smacked Chuck upside the head and said: -> -> ->> OOH! They're coming out with a new one or am I just that far -> ->> behind? -> CA> I'm afraid you're a bit behind, I think _The Road Home_ was -> CA> released in July or August of, uh, 1996. The disc is buried -> CA> under a teetering stack and I don't wish to risk disaster. :) -> OOPS. Guess I'm farther behind than I thought. :P Heheheheh. It's an excellent disc, running 74 odd minutes, almost a live "best of" including a cover of "Love Hurts". :) -> My CDs are scattered all over the house (I recently found one behind -> toilet!)... guess I need to gather them all up someday. Being foolish, I'm going to ask how a CD got behind the toilet. How did the CD get behind the toilet? ;) -> ->> Remember, I'm from the same neck of the woods as Heart. :) I -> ->> like to keep tabs on them. -> CA> Cool! -> CA> You're in Seattle area then? -> Well, kinda-sorta... I'm from Portland, Oregon, but Seattle is just -> down the road (about 1.5 hour drive-no big deal). Ah, to be so close your area's "music scene"... -> CA> NP: "When You're a Tuesday Girl" : The Tuesdays : _The Tuesdays_ -> I heard that name and I thought of Aimee Mann and 'Til Tuesday... :) Have you ever heard either of Aimee's solo efforts? They're both excellent and should have done much better than they did. Last time she toured, the show was drop dead terrific. NP: "Porno Mouth" : Holly McNarland : _Stuff_ --- ViaMAIL!/WC4 v1.30 * Origin: Maltese Alien: Been there, done that!: (412) 279-9561 1:129/41.1) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 166 MUSIC Ref: F5G00004 Date: 04/11/98 From: CHUCK ALLEN Time: 07:20pm \/To: RICK MCBROOM (Read 0 times) Subj: Garrison Starr Greetings Rick! On 7 April 98 Rick smacked Chuck upside the head while saying: -> RM>> Oh yeah! You'll love Garrison Starr, guaranteed. -> CA> It's in the changer even as I type. ;) -> To quote Elaine; "Chuck, I hate you". ;-) The line forms to the left, thank you! :)~ _Eighteen Over Me_ is a terrific album. She sometimes sounds like Holly McNarland, very similar crystalline vocals. The songs are, one and all, thought provoking. I'm properly impressed! -> CA> NP: "Deep Dish" : Ani DiFranco : _Little Plastic Castle_ -> Check out my new tagline! ROTFL! Ani's coming to town soon, and I do have tickets. _Little Plastic Castle_ would be on my "bus rotation", but some of the lyrics and subjects aren't suitable for tender young ears. She's a truly gifted person. -> NP: Shaney Mac _Crock Of Gold_ "Paddy Rolling Stone" ^^^ As in Shawn MacGowan? Or am I confused again? -> ... "Any tool is a weapon if you hold it right" --Ani DiFranco Very true! Which makes me think of Diamanda Gala's comments about using her voice as a weapon. ;) NP: "Water" : Holly McNarland : _Stuff_ --- ViaMAIL!/WC4 v1.30 * Origin: Maltese Alien: Been there, done that!: (412) 279-9561 1:129/41.1) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 166 MUSIC Ref: F5G00005 Date: 04/11/98 From: CHUCK ALLEN Time: 07:24pm \/To: RICK MCBROOM (Read 0 times) Subj: Formula for success (was: Punks the bomb19:24:5104/11/98 Greetings Rick! On 7 April 1998 Rick smacked Chuck upside the head while saying: -> -=> Quoting Chuck Allen to Scott Taylor <=- -> CA> So many bands are "formulamatic", they hit on a sound and stick t -> CA> it without much changing. Much as I like Boston, they're the fir -> CA> which comes to mind. Tracks from _Walk On_ could have been on th -> CA> debut and vice versa without anyone knowing the difference. But -> I -> CA> still love their music. -> I could say the same about some of my favorite bands/artists. I think most everyone can. -> "Formulaic" is NOT a dirty word, as far as I'm concerened.. assuming -> enjoy the formula, that is! ;-) Now did I make any such suggestion? -> CA> When I was in high school, our marching band wore kilts. -> No foolin'? CooL! I'll bet you wouldn't want to guess which band was involved in the most fist fights at area football games. :) -> CA> NP: "To Sir With Love" : Jann Arden : _Happy?_ -> That the song I think it is? The one.. err, Lulu did? Exactly. And Jann covers it so well as to make it "hers" in my book. Of course, we all know I can never be objective about Jann, even if she did marry someone else. :) -> ... NP: Shaney Mac _Crock Of Gold_ "Back In The County Hell" NP: "Coward" : Holly McNarland : _Stuff_ --- ViaMAIL!/WC4 v1.30 * Origin: Maltese Alien: Been there, done that!: (412) 279-9561 1:129/41.1) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 166 MUSIC Ref: F5G00006 Date: 04/11/98 From: CHUCK ALLEN Time: 07:27pm \/To: BLUE GARVEY (Read 0 times) Subj: Those Gap ads Greetings Blue! On 7 April 1998 Blue smacked Chuck upside the head while saying: -> -> -> Okay, those of you in the U.S. have probably seen a zillion of -> -> -> TV ads with various musicians by now. I know that Steven Tyler -> -> -> and L.L. Cool J. is in another, but who are the other people? -> -> I think the one with the four young ladies is The Tuesdays. I -> -> could be wrong... -> Nope, that particular Gap ad features the band Luscious Jackson. >:) I was wrong! Smack! You know, if I remember correctly I was playing _Fever In, Fever Out_ right before logging in to read the echo! Doh! Thanks, Chuck the local buffoon! --- ViaMAIL!/WC4 v1.30 * Origin: Maltese Alien: Been there, done that!: (412) 279-9561 1:129/41.1) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 166 MUSIC Ref: F5G00007 Date: 04/11/98 From: CHUCK ALLEN Time: 07:29pm \/To: DENNIS LEONG (Read 0 times) Subj: Yellow Snow (was: Knock it off...) -> -=> Quoting Chuck Allen to Dennis Leong <=- -> -> CA> I try to watch what I step in. -> CA> "And I watch out where the huskies go and I don't eat the yellow -> CA> snow." <--- Feeble attempt to make the message somewhat on the -> topic -> CA> of music. -> That doesn't sound like it's on topic! :) It's the thought that counts. ;) -> What song is that quoted from Badly mangled but slightly resembling lyrics written by the master of word wit, Frank Zappa! NP: "The Box" : Holly McNarland : _Stuff_ --- ViaMAIL!/WC4 v1.30 * Origin: Maltese Alien: Been there, done that!: (412) 279-9561 1:129/41.1)