--------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 166 MUSIC Ref: F3M00023 Date: 03/17/98 From: RICHARD ANAND Time: 03:13pm \/To: GREG KURTH (Read 0 times) Subj: Re: HIP-HOP IS DA BOMB **** Quoting Message... **** **** On 15 Mar 98 02:08:00, Greg Kurth Said to Richard Anand... **** GK> RA>said it sucked...with all the people saying rap is crap, and when the on GK> RA>rapper they've heard is puff daddy.. GK> GK> I've heard a lot of rap. As you said, it's been around since the GK> `70's and it's everywhere. In TV commercials, radio commercials, on GK> "music" TV, etc. I too think it's crap. I've thought so since "Goin' GK> To Cali". I don't care if you think its crap..I think that rock sux..so you can yell at me all you want, cuz I'm not going to change my mind about what music I like..and you can post 1001 examples of why rock doesn't suck...go ahead..I'm just gonna go listen to some music while your typing your examples.. --- Renegade v5-11 Exp * Origin: The Connection BBS - Modesto, Ca. - Team OS/2 (1:208/800) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 166 MUSIC Ref: F3M00024 Date: 03/17/98 From: RICHARD ANAND Time: 03:15pm \/To: JENNIFER SHARWARD (Read 0 times) Subj: Re: Hip-Hop is da bomb **** Quoting Message... **** **** On 16 Mar 98 12:26:00, Jennifer Sharward Said to Richard Anand... JS> On 03-13-98, RICHARD ANAND wrote to JENNIFER SHARWARD: JS> JS> RA> I did say that I enjoyed listening to rap...then some dumbass JS> RA> came and said it sucked...with all the people saying rap is cr*p, JS> RA> and when the only rapper they've heard is puff daddy.. JS> JS> Again, you're not going to win points by doing the very same thing you JS> accuse others of. Instead, you can either ignore such messages or you can JS> respectfully disagree by talking about musical influence. For example, JS> did you know that there's this female rap artist (I didn't catch her name) JS> who really likes Fiona Apple as well as other rap artists and is JS> interested in doing some kind of duet? JS> JS> Jennifer Whats her name..Missy Elliot..Foxy Brown...Lil Kim..Queen Latifa.. --- Renegade v5-11 Exp * Origin: The Connection BBS - Modesto, Ca. - Team OS/2 (1:208/800) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 166 MUSIC Ref: F3N00000 Date: 03/18/98 From: ELAINE NAIMAN Time: 07:37pm \/To: SEAN DENNIS (Read 0 times) Subj: Covers Hi Sean - SD> If you want an interesting cover, how about the Pet Shop Boys' cover of SD> "Always on My Mind" or their cover of "Where The Streets Have No Name"? I like them. But then again, I'm a big Pet Shop Boys fan. Elaine --- GoldED/386 2.51.A1026 UNREG * Origin: The Eclectic BBS, Ottawa, Ontario, Canada (1:163/308) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 166 MUSIC Ref: F3N00001 Date: 03/17/98 From: DENNIS LEONG Time: 04:11pm \/To: RICHARD ANAND (Read 0 times) Subj: Re: Hip-Hop is da bomb -=> Quoting Richard Anand to Dennis Leong <=- RA> I dont necessarily hate rock and roll..I just never liked RA> it..those musicians aren't that bad for what they do...but I'm saying RA> that hip-hop is better..thats my own opinion.. My problem with you is that you think your opinion reigns supreme above all others. That's my bone to pick. ___ Blue Wave/QWK v2.20 --- Maximus 3.01 * Origin: LutherNet Christian BBS (1:153/7036) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 166 MUSIC Ref: F3N00002 Date: 03/17/98 From: DENNIS LEONG Time: 04:12pm \/To: RICHARD ANAND (Read 0 times) Subj: Re: HIP-HOP IS DA BOMB -=> Quoting Richard Anand to Dennis Leong <=- RA> Van Halen..I've seen alot of them on MTV back in the 80's..I just RA> don't remember they're names..I don't know the difference between rock RA> and heavy metal hheh good question. As heavy metal bands get older, they mellow out and start playing rock. Van Halen did, and so did Metallica. Rocker don't like metalheads, but many metal bands consider themselves rock bands rather than metal ___ Blue Wave/QWK v2.20 --- Maximus 3.01 * Origin: LutherNet Christian BBS (1:153/7036) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 166 MUSIC Ref: F3N00003 Date: 03/17/98 From: DENNIS LEONG Time: 04:14pm \/To: RICHARD ANAND (Read 0 times) Subj: Re: Hip-Hop is da bomb -=> Quoting Richard Anand to Dennis Leong <=- RA> Your a dumbass..hip-hop is about MC's..dj's...graffiti art..and RA> breaking..Hip-hop is the greatest form of self expression..hip-hop RA> tells it like it is..the rappers or mc's rap about whats going on in RA> their life, whats going on around them..or rapping about anything that RA> comes to mind..dj's back up the mc's creating beats for them to rap RA> on...graffiti art, just part of hip-hop on writing on walls, and that RA> is very difficult to do, on paper also..breakdancing is part of RA> hip-hop, busting gyros, popping..thats all hip-hop..that was their RA> before sponsers ever knew what hip-hop was.. Ah I see... and now you're into it because they have big name sponsors in the rap magazines. I see... ___ Blue Wave/QWK v2.20 --- Maximus 3.01 * Origin: LutherNet Christian BBS (1:153/7036) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 166 MUSIC Ref: F3N00004 Date: 03/17/98 From: DENNIS LEONG Time: 04:15pm \/To: RICHARD ANAND (Read 0 times) Subj: Re: Hip-Hop is da bomb -=> Quoting Richard Anand to Dennis Leong <=- DL> Make your money more useful... go to a Tony Robbins seminar and listen o DL> him talk. RA> Its better than seeing some dude with long hair jump around smash RA> their gituars on stage.. No it's not. The money I pay for the show goes to buying his new guitars. Your money goes to Wu-Tang to roll in. ___ Blue Wave/QWK v2.20 --- Maximus 3.01 * Origin: LutherNet Christian BBS (1:153/7036) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 166 MUSIC Ref: F3N00005 Date: 03/17/98 From: DENNIS LEONG Time: 04:16pm \/To: JENNIFER SHARWARD (Read 0 times) Subj: Hip-Hop Is Da Bomb -=> Quoting Jennifer Sharward to Dennis Leong <=- JS> Excellent point, Dennis. It makes me think of a scene in the movie JS> "Great Balls of Fire," when we see Jerry Lee spying in on a barn dance JS> and he becomes hooked on the music being played there. In fact, a JS> number of songs gained popularity after a white artist covered a black JS> artist's song. Sometimes, this lead to music fans checking out the JS> original artist, but sometimes not. :( Thank you! :) uhm... I've never seen Great Balls of Fire though :( And sadly, I don't check out my favourite artists' influences. I don't have the time or funds to do this :( NP : Shredded Humans - Cannibal Corpse ___ Blue Wave/QWK v2.20 --- Maximus 3.01 * Origin: LutherNet Christian BBS (1:153/7036) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 166 MUSIC Ref: F3N00006 Date: 03/17/98 From: DENNIS LEONG Time: 04:17pm \/To: ELAINE NAIMAN (Read 0 times) Subj: Puff Daddy -=> Quoting Elaine Naiman to Dennis Leong <=- EN> Then why do Pet Shop Boys, Barbra Streisand and soundtrack EN> albums (amongst others I can't think of/don't know) sell so EN> well? Didn't they perform live to start with? I dunno who they are (yeah, I know Babs but don't know how she started out) so maybe you can tell me :) EN> Touring costs the bands money too. No guarantee a band EN> will profit from a tour. I know, but people at the shows will buy their merchandise, which is where the real money comes in. ___ Blue Wave/QWK v2.20 --- Maximus 3.01 * Origin: LutherNet Christian BBS (1:153/7036) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 166 MUSIC Ref: F3N00007 Date: 03/17/98 From: DENNIS LEONG Time: 04:20pm \/To: HERMAN SCHONFELD (Read 0 times) Subj: Puff Daddy -=> Quoting Herman Schonfeld to Dennis Leong <=- HS> Obviously. And how do you plan to play live if you don't have any HS> money? Borrow. Get a real job. Steal :) HS> That's the difference between a commercial band and a "real" band. if HS> i ever had a chance to go out and play live (and that excludes HS> clubs, you dont start building "fans" there) i would, but HS> you don't NEED to to get signed up with a dsitributor to HS> get money from record sales. And even if they tell you to HS> get F@#$#@ you can just BUY units and sell them yourself HS> (to other stores ofcourse) and if people like it then HS> they'll buy it. ie, NIN. I don't think he built a "fanbase" HS> at clubs and then recorded a record. Well I guess we come from different music scenes. I dunno if NIN did play live, but I have a friend in an industrial band who plays live regularly. He has a demo, but no record out. My band has been playing for almost a year now, haven't done any live shows. Nobody's come around asking us to make a record for them though. HS> There are other ways to gain popularity apart from just HS> playing live. ie, do you think alot of those stupid female HS> singers who have those clips go out and sing in live HS> concerts and _THEN_ get release a record? or even sweet HS> dreams by mmanson, that wouldn't really work live, would it? Don't say stupid female singers :) You're gonna get flak for that! What are you talking about clips? HS> If i had released a record, and some organizer asked me to HS> play at a concert then i wouldn't refuse, but i wouldnt HS> just sit around and wait for things like that to happen and HS> ONLY release a record after we have 10 or 20 fans in the HS> local scene. (and thats all you get from playing in HS> clubs/parties/other little gigs). If you can't get 10 or 20 fans in your local scene, what makes you think you're going to be able to sell many units? NP : Mangled - Cannibal Corpse ___ Blue Wave/QWK v2.20 --- Maximus 3.01 * Origin: LutherNet Christian BBS (1:153/7036)