--------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 166 MUSIC Ref: F2S00018 Date: 02/20/98 From: DENNIS LEONG Time: 05:11pm \/To: MACIEK BUKCZYNSKI (Read 0 times) Subj: Band names -=> Quoting Maciek Bukczynski to Dennis Leong <=- DL> Strangely Compelled. Weed is pathetic, if you want to brag about DL> smoking a stupid thing like weed, go ahead. Once Weed stops becoming DL> the "in" thing, your band will suffer MB> Couldn't have put it better myself! :) yeah so look to the future and think of something that may be cool to do, and if it happens, you'll be big!!! :) For example, call yourself Drano Sniffers :) Of course, if it doesn't happen, you'll have a bad name :) ___ Blue Wave/QWK v2.20 --- Maximus 3.01 * Origin: LutherNet Christian BBS (1:153/7036) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 166 MUSIC Ref: F2S00019 Date: 02/20/98 From: DENNIS LEONG Time: 05:14pm \/To: BLUE GARVEY (Read 0 times) Subj: My electric guitar. -=> Quoting Blue Garvey to Herman Schonfeld <=- BG> rack units he used. Now, speaking of my friend Zim Zum, the new and BG> better guitarist, in my humble opinion, he uses the same equipment I BG> do. He uses Fender guitars, and his three guitars that he built My friend told me that Zim Zum used to play in a death metal band... is this true? What bands did he play in before MM? BG> -Mrs.Zum- erm... you're married to him? ___ Blue Wave/QWK v2.20 --- Maximus 3.01 * Origin: LutherNet Christian BBS (1:153/7036) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 166 MUSIC Ref: F2S00020 Date: 02/21/98 From: JOHNNY ANDERSON Time: 10:27am \/To: ROGIER VAN EETEN (Read 0 times) Subj: Re: PUFF DADDY RV> If Notourios B.I.G. didn't died (I still think he didn't), he wouldn't eve RV> popular in Europe. B.i.g died dude. So did 2pac. Why can't people understand that the only reason they are still making records is because other people are doing them. Just because Biggy died doesnt mean his music is dead, he still gots a gang of songs that aint never been let out. He could put out another cd if puffy felt like it. Same thing with Jackson. If he died today, they could have another cd for mj ready by the summer. --- Renegade v5-11 Exp * Origin: The Connection BBS - Modesto, Ca. - Team OS/2 (1:208/800) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 166 MUSIC Ref: F2S00021 Date: 02/22/98 From: HERMAN SCHONFELD Time: 02:27pm \/To: MIKE MOURNING (Read 0 times) Subj: My Electric guitar. MM>Re: My electric guitar. > I was wondering if anyone could tell me what kind of guitar bands like > "Marilyn Manson" use? (if you've ever heard their "Sweet Dreams" MM>cover, they > use the exact same sound I am after). > Please reply if you can help me out, thanks. MM>I can't help your one bit but I will say that Manson should DIE!! or at MM>least MM>grow up that man has no respect. And since when do I care what he does or doesn't do. Marilyn Manson is also the band name, not just him, and if you bothered to read it asked about the kind of guitars they use. MM>Sweet Dreams rips of randy rhoades!!!!! listen to it again it's exactly MM>the MM>same but since Manson has no talent it's 1/2 as slow!!!! It's not exactly the same, champ. It's quite different. It's actually completely different apart from the lyrics. ... California raisins murdered! Cereal killer suspected. --- Ezycom V1.48g0 01fd016b * Origin: Fox's Lair BBS Bris Aus +61-7-38036821 V34 +Node 1 (3:640/238) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 166 MUSIC Ref: F2S00022 Date: 02/22/98 From: HERMAN SCHONFELD Time: 02:28pm \/To: MIKE MOURNING (Read 0 times) Subj: Puff Daddy!! MM>Re: PUFF DADDY > GK> Doing covers just shows a total lack of talent. > EN>Name one artist that has never done a cover either on album or in > EN>performance. > Marilyn Manson did a cover of Sweet Dreams. Except their version is MM>totally > superior. The music was totally re-written, however the same lyrics MM>were used MM>aahhhhhhh!!!! MM>the lyrics were exactly the same as the original!! they ripped the MM>lyrics off MM>from the eurythmics (or whatever) and they ripped the riff off Randy MM>Rhoades!!!!!! No they didn't. The lyrics are obviously the same (as per the title of the song). ... I wrote my own benchmark. My machine is now 500MHz! --- Ezycom V1.48g0 01fd016b * Origin: Fox's Lair BBS Bris Aus +61-7-38036821 V34 +Node 1 (3:640/238) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 166 MUSIC Ref: F2S00023 Date: 02/22/98 From: HERMAN SCHONFELD Time: 02:33pm \/To: DENNIS LEONG (Read 0 times) Subj: Puff Daddy -=> Quoting Herman Schonfeld to Elaine Naiman <=- HS> Marilyn Manson did a cover of Sweet Dreams. Except their HS> version is totally superior. The music was totally re- HS> written, however the same lyrics were used. DL>The music wasn't rewritten, it was just rearranged and written for DL>different DL>instruments than the original version. And it wasn't superior, it really DL>depends on who's listening. I bet fans of the original version hate the DL>MM version! 'Fraid not. It is superior. The original is crap compared to the manson version. The music was re-written - "it was just rearranged and written for different instruments" ROFLMAO! ... IBM: It may be slow, but at least it's expensive. --- Ezycom V1.48g0 01fd016b * Origin: Fox's Lair BBS Bris Aus +61-7-38033908 V34+ Node 2 (3:640/238) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 166 MUSIC Ref: F2S00024 Date: 02/22/98 From: HERMAN SCHONFELD Time: 02:40pm \/To: BLUE GARVEY (Read 0 times) Subj: My electric guitar. -> Hi, I apologize if this is the wrong area, but I it seems this is -> the most appropriate. -> -> I am having problems with my electric guitar. The problem is that I -> bought it and I get the wrong sound. What I am after is a kind -> "light" distortion, but what I get is a heavy loud crunch crap -> distortion. -> I was wondering if anyone could tell me what kind of guitar bands -> like "Marilyn Manson" use? (if you've ever heard their "Sweet -> Dreams" cover, they use the exact same sound I am after). -> HS> I was wondering if anyone could tell me what kind of guitar bands HS> like "Marilyn Manson" use? BG>Well, well, I am happy that I caught this. >:) BG>I am friends with the guitarist of Marilyn Manson and I am a guitarist BG>myself and I can give you MUCH help here. BG>So, firstly, since you speak of "Sweet Dreams" which Daisy, the previous BG>guitarist recorded with that band, Daisy used Ibanez and Jackson guitars BG>but I don't remember what kind of amps, pre amps, and rack units he BG>used. Now, speaking of my friend Zim Zum, the new and better guitarist, BG>in my humble opinion, he uses the same equipment I do. He uses Fender BG>guitars, and his three guitars that he built himself. As for amps, he BG>uses Marshall amps and cabs, Marshall Pre-amp, and other various BG>Marshall rack units. The wah wah pedal that Zim Zum uses for the track BG>"Sweet Dreams" is a Jimi Hendrix Dunlop wah. I too prefer this wah pedal BG>because it has better range wand sweep. >:) I hope this help you out a BG>bit, and if you have anymore questions I would be more than happy to BG>answer them for you. >:) That's exactly the same configuration I've got. I lowered the pre-amp abit and got it working (I never use to do it before because my amp is totally f!@#%d and just refuses to work if I change the drive too much), but it works now so thanks for the advice. Thanks. By the way, ask your friend when he thinks the new album will be released and/or any new singles. ... I received a phone bill from Bell Canada for DOS calls! --- Ezycom V1.48g0 01fd016b * Origin: Fox's Lair BBS Bris Aus +61-7-38033908 V34+ Node 2 (3:640/238) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 166 MUSIC Ref: F2S00025 Date: 02/23/98 From: POUL ANDERSEN Time: 12:06am \/To: DON DELLMANN (Read 0 times) Subj: MOOG Hello Don Hello agin Don why are you not answering any letter anymore i have send in internet and now here in fido net why will you not talk anymore about Moog or any other keind of music -=> Yours sincerely, Poul Andersen <=- --- Terminate 4.00 * Origin: When did you last ? (2:235/203.77) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 166 MUSIC Ref: F2S00026 Date: 02/22/98 From: CHUCK ALLEN Time: 01:35pm \/To: ALL (Read 0 times) Subj: The Rules MUSIC Conference Rules "Participation in the MUSIC ECHO is a privilege not a right. It's like driving a car. A DWI or two will get you talked about as well as your license revoked." 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Kevin Crays (1:3803/6.6) Music Moderator Rick McBroom (1:123/38) Assistant Moderator, letters A-I Elaine Naiman (1:163/308) Assistant Moderator, letters J-R Chuck Allen (1:129/41) Assistant Moderator, letters S-Z --- ViaMAIL!/WC4 v1.30 * Origin: Maltese Alien: Been there, done that!: (412) 279-9561 1:129/41.1) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 166 MUSIC Ref: F2S00027 Date: 02/22/98 From: CHUCK ALLEN Time: 01:48pm \/To: TANJO MATOW (Read 0 times) Subj: Re: Liam Gallagher - Oasis -> CA> Comments to the effect that Oasis music is so much better than -> CA> everything else put out these days... That people who don't like -> CA> listen to Oasis have no appreciation of music... -> Some guitars and weak singin' don't make no "good music". Exactly. -> There a still "new" bands that nowadays produce "good music" (e.g. "P -> Jam", "The Smashing Pumpkins" et cetera); u don't need nobody, who cl -> that he's "the best" in this and that (like the stupid Gallagher -> boys) to do that. There are people who believe Oasis makes wonderful music, and for them it is. We each have our own tastes and preferences. -> Anyways, "good music" is good for all persons, who -> believe that it is good. Indeed, even I call this 'n that bull, -> boring or whatever, but that is just my opinion 2 the game. Exactly! We all enjoy what we enjoy, and that makes it "good" to us. As I mentioned, my main problem with Oasis is their "attitude"... -> Everybody who's dumb enough to think that he/she could /title/ -> something good or bad (as some sort of weird "standards") should -> stick his/her head into the anus of a pig. ...'n if all these -> kiddies would do that, the bad thing about it'd be: poor pigs. That is certainly one way of looking at it. -> BTW: of course there's a "standard"-difference between a kid and a -> "true musician". Oh? And what about Jonny Lang and Kenny Wayne Sheppard? -> NP: The Presidents Of The United States Of America - Body NP: "Getaway (February)" : Jen Trynin : _Gun Shy Trigger Happy_ --- ViaMAIL!/WC4 v1.30 * Origin: Maltese Alien: Been there, done that!: (412) 279-9561 1:129/41.1)