--------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 166 MUSIC Ref: EGW00026 Date: 12/26/97 From: CHUCK ALLEN Time: 02:50pm \/To: TREVOR DENNETT-THORPE (Read 0 times) Subj: -= Too Much: Spice Girls -= -> ->> That really annoys me when you get bands who have to play live -> ->> in lots of dingy pubs and clubs for years just to get -> ->> anywhere, and then come al of these manufactured groups (I -> ->> refuse to call them a band) such as t Girls and in under two -> ->> years they are every-bloody-where. -> CA> I couldn't agree more. -> CA> What bothers me most about the Spice Girls is their attitude. -> CA> If they acknowledged what they are, a manufactured marketing -> CA> product, fine. But trying to hold themselves out as singer / -> CA> songwriters turns my stomach... -> They probably don't do anything apart from sing and dance around a bi -> Personally I think it's the people who do the music for them that sho -> getting some of the credit. They should be getting a lion's share of the credit. As so often happens, the "voice" gets the recognition and the rest of the band lives in obscurity, even if another band member wrote all the music... NP: "I Wanna Be A Witch" : Kim Fox : _Moon Hut_ --- ViaMAIL!/WC4 v1.30 * Origin: Maltese Alien: Been there, done that!: (412) 279-9561 1:129/41.1) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 166 MUSIC Ref: EGW00027 Date: 12/26/97 From: CHUCK ALLEN Time: 02:56pm \/To: JENNIFER SHARWARD (Read 0 times) Subj: PIECE OF CRAP. -> CA> I see. What a person listens to defines who they are? -> CA> What about people like me who listen to and enjoy a wide -> CA> variety of genres? -> They probably think we're schizophrenic or some such thing. You're the second person to suggest this. As before, it isn't bad except when two of us want to listen to one thing and the other two want to listen to something else. I always lose the argument! ;-) -> Seriously, though, in unpacking all the cassettes, I jokingly told my -> husband that his part of the tape collection sure makes him look -> like a metalhead. Working on maintaining marital bliss, are you? ;-}~ -> He made some comment like, yeah, that's why I'm -> trying to hide them! It's funny in a way, but also sad because -> it illustrates that fear of being stereotyped by the music we listen -> to. Yep. It is sad. :( My own thoughts are I'd rather have people around me who listen to music regardless of the genre than people who don't enjoy music. It always seems to me the people without music, who don't seem to enjoy it, are no fun to be around. But then I'm nuts! -> (I mean, while I found every album Helix ever made, Oh? And what is wrong with Helix? -> this man -> also listens to prog, New Age, jazz, and a little bit of modern rock -> and doesn't look or act anything like a stereotype.) Which serves to prove stereotyping is always ill advised! I gather the move has now settled into daily routine? No more moving boxes left to unpack? NP: "Could Have Been A Saint" : Kim Fox : _Moon Hut_ --- ViaMAIL!/WC4 v1.30 * Origin: Maltese Alien: Been there, done that!: (412) 279-9561 1:129/41.1) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 166 MUSIC Ref: EGW00028 Date: 12/26/97 From: CHUCK ALLEN Time: 03:02pm \/To: JENNIFER SHARWARD (Read 0 times) Subj: INFLUENCE OF MUSIC (WAS: -> On 11-28-97, CHUCK ALLEN wrote to MIKE MOURNING: -> -> CA> When a songwriter sits down to write, I feel the good ones -> allow -> CA> us to visit or see a small slice of what they are feeling, think -> CA> seeing. Which means not all music is going to be "happy upliftin -> CA> music" because life often hurts with the loss of a loved one, the -> CA> loss of love, etc. -> Well, that's a key tenent for novelists: write what you know. :) Oh? And what of people who write science fiction and fantasy? ;) -> Additionally, sometimes the music strikes a real chord with the -> listener because s/he has been at that place, too... Isn't that what I just said? NP: "Bleed a Little, Allison" : Kim Fox : _Moon Hut_ --- ViaMAIL!/WC4 v1.30 * Origin: Maltese Alien: Been there, done that!: (412) 279-9561 1:129/41.1) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 166 MUSIC Ref: EGW00029 Date: 12/26/97 From: CHUCK ALLEN Time: 03:05pm \/To: JENNIFER SHARWARD (Read 0 times) Subj: INFLUENCE OF MUSIC (WAS: -> CA> Trying to be serious for a change, music has been shown to -> alter -> CA> or enhance moods. It is common therapy to have a "music" hour i -> CA> wards treating people committed for being a threat to themselves -> CA> others. -> It can also be used for an opposite means as well. For example, some -> restaurants play faster music (rock instead of classical, say), and -> that encourages the patrons to eat their food faster, and, hence, -> make room for more customers. Exactly. And if there is a fire, they play Spice Girls or Hanson! -> Of course, if you want people to -> dally at your restaurant, then you play the classical music. Uh, because people who tend to listen to classical are also often educated and more affluent? Try to imagine Wagner's "Rings" playing through dinner, "Ride of the Valkyries" as the waiter approaches! -> NP: Brecker Bros. w/Steve Kahn - "The Christmas Waltz" - *Jazz to the -> World* NP: "Say Anything" : Kim Fox : _Moon Hut_ --- ViaMAIL!/WC4 v1.30 * Origin: Maltese Alien: Been there, done that!: (412) 279-9561 1:129/41.1) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 166 MUSIC Ref: EGW00030 Date: 12/26/97 From: CHUCK ALLEN Time: 03:08pm \/To: JENNIFER SHARWARD (Read 0 times) Subj: Lita -> CA> -> Next: Lita Ford joining the Spice Girls -> CA> Stop! You're scaring me! -> CA> Next: Lita Ford and Joan Jett kick the Spice Girls around the -> CA> stage for half and hour! -> Yes, that would be much more likely than Dennis' outcome. When I -> saw Ford interviewed once, she said she's lying low, waiting for -> metal to come back. Read as: Is rehab finished yet? :) She has released a couple overseas since her last stateside release, right? On a German label? -> NP: Cassandra Wilson - "The Little Drummer Boy" - *Jazz to the World* ^^^^ Have you caught the Dandy Warhols version of the above song? :) NP: "Flowers Have O's" : Kim Fox : _Moon Hut_ --- ViaMAIL!/WC4 v1.30 * Origin: Maltese Alien: Been there, done that!: (412) 279-9561 1:129/41.1) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 166 MUSIC Ref: EGW00031 Date: 12/26/97 From: CHUCK ALLEN Time: 03:09pm \/To: ALL (Read 0 times) Subj: That time of the Week - Rules! MUSIC Conference Rules "Participation in the MUSIC ECHO is a privilege not a right. It's like driving a car. A DWI or two will get you talked about as well as your license revoked." (Author Unknown) MUSIC is a general message oriented echo. Conversation is encouraged. Debate is encouraged. All discussions are open to anyone who wishes to join in. Keep the discussion relevant to MUSIC. While some cross- subject topics are inevitable (i.e. drugs or AIDS while discussing certain musicians), don't get carried away. 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Comments, questions, and suggestions are more than welcome, and will be responded to via netmail as time permits. Kevin Crays (1:3803/6.6) Music Moderator Rick McBroom (1:123/38) Assistant Moderator, letters A-I Elaine Naiman (1:163/308) Assistant Moderator, letters J-R Chuck Allen (1:129/41) Assistant Moderator, letters S-Z --- ViaMAIL!/WC4 v1.30 * Origin: Maltese Alien: Been there, done that!: (412) 279-9561 1:129/41.1) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 166 MUSIC Ref: EGW00032 Date: 12/26/97 From: CHUCK ALLEN Time: 03:39pm \/To: GRAHAM DRUMMOND (Read 0 times) Subj: Spicy -> This one had me in stitches. Hope you find it as funny as I did. -> Check six -> Buster -> -> == Forwarded Message Follows -> ========================================= * Originally By: Michael -> Trachtenberg * Original Area: FUNNY - Funny jokes and stories -> * Forwarded by : Blue Wave/DOS v2.20 -> -> Phil Specter received an award in the UK for his years of -> contribution to rock music. During the presentation, reference was -> made to some fundamentalist Christian objections to the Spice Girls, -> the hip-hop band known for their skimpy outfits. Phil's reply was, -> "The difference between the Spice Girls and a porno film is that the -> porno film has better music." -> -> [Heard on NPR this morning during my commute.] ROTFL! Well spoken by Phil! NP: "Atlantic City" : Kim Fox : _Moon Hut_ --- ViaMAIL!/WC4 v1.30 * Origin: Maltese Alien: Been there, done that!: (412) 279-9561 1:129/41.1) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 166 MUSIC Ref: EGW00033 Date: 12/26/97 From: CHUCK ALLEN Time: 05:23pm \/To: STEWY (Read 0 times) Subj: Re: Boston Hello Ms. Stewy! -> -> -> CA> It's a date! Where the heck is Tom's number... -> -> -> Who's Tom...and what the heck do you need him for? -> -> CA> Tom Schulz. He is, for all intents and purposes, Boston. :) -> -> Ok...I knew that!! -> CA> -> One liners from the master of understatement eh? -> -> -> Are you bringing your girlfriend... -> -> CA> Why would I do that? -> -> I don't know! I had to ask didn't I? -> CA> Did you? -> I think I did! Didn't I? Well, I think I have a new girlfriend. She might want to go... -> -> -> I would like to meet her you know... -> -> CA> Me too! -> -> Maybe soon eh? -> CA> Maybe! -> Don't get too carried away Chuck!! Why not? ;-) -> -> -> Actually heard so really great news on the radio; though it is -> -> -> depressing to me: Bryan Adams is coming to Ottawa in Feb... ... -> -> Cuz of the same reason why I couldn't go to Boston; No Date!! You -> -> to take me to that too!! -> CA> ROTFL! -> CA> You'd die, right? -> Yep, I would! -> Then if I died I wouldn't be able to go to the concerts! See? Save your date lots of money, eh? ... -> -> CA> For the most part. Roots_Music is run by Nancy and Jeff and -> -> CA> they're not meanies like I am. -> -> Ah yes, the evil Taskmaster! -> CA> The evil Moderaptor, keeping foul and vulgar language from -> CA> delicate young minds and all. -> Oh really? Whose delicate and young in here? Anybody out there -> delicate and young? Rick maybe eh? One never knows who is reading! Saw an item in the paper yesterday. The TV network censors predict the dreaded "f" word will be on broadcast TV within 5 years. Seems words are getting socially acceptable - soon none of Carlin's "seven words" will be taboo. ... -> -> -> It's just that inner child in you that's acting out. -> -> CA> The inner child in me has body art, lots of piercings, with -> -> spiked -> -> CA> and colored hair. -> -> Ya, right!! you would like that would you? Where would you have th -> -> body-piercings? What color hair? Green! -> CA> And plays in a Punk band! -> Kewl!! And the name of the band is.......?? Something cool like Kill Curious Canadians... -> -> -> -> CA> Next I'm going to have to haul out my Journey albums... -> -> -> go for it! Listen to them for me and tell me how it feels -> -> CA> They're behind stacks of CDs again. I guess it is time to dig -> -> out CA> the vinyl... -> -> Aw, do it for me Chuck...I miss not listening to them! -> CA> They were terrific. -> Gee thanx!! Hey, gotta do what I gotta do! Just had them out again. _Infinity_ is great with songs like "Lights", "Feeling That Way", "Anytime" - makes think of new (maybe) girlfriend, "Patiently", and "Wheel in the Sky". On _Evolution_ the songs I love are "Lovin', Touchin', Squeezin'", "City of Angels", "Lovin' You is Easy" - makes me think of her, and "Just the Same Way - again thinking of her. Then comes _Departure_ with "Any Way You Want It", "Someday Soon" - thinking of her, and "Stay Awhile" which is my song to her. Continuing with _Escape_; "Don't Stop Believin'", "Stone in Love" - makes me think of her, "Who's Cryin' Now", and "Open Arms" which I told her is what I am waiting with. _Frontiers_ features "Separate Ways (Worlds Apart)" - sometimes 600 miles can seem like it, "Send Her My Love", and "Faithfully". Anyway, you wanted me to listen, I did! Hope you don't miss them too much! ;-}~ -> -> -> -> CA> You like Foreigner, too? -> -> -> -> How'd you ever guess that? I guess I like all the older, -> -> been -> -> -> -> around groups...can you tell?:-) -> -> -> CA> "Just like older been around men?" Chuck asks while duckin -> -> -> CA> cover as he laughs. "I swear they do this on purpose!" -> -> -> You better duck for cover Chuck! Why whose older ar -> -> -> here? -> CA> I'm registered with the Department of Antiquities! -> Really? Worth much? Worthless. Dirt beneath your feet. <= borrowed from Jann Arden. -> -> CA> I'm a fossil. I listened to the Beatles, Rolling Stones, and -> Pin -> CA> Floyd when they were new on the music scene. -> -> Are you really? I like the Beatles, ad the Stones too...just d -> -> any of their music. -> CA> Yes, I really am. -> Chuck the fossil; has a certain ring to it; don't you think? Could be the name of my Punk band: Chuck and the Fossils! -> CA> No Stones or Beatles? Agh! -> And this surprises you? Nope no Stones, not Beatles!! I am tired of -> hearing The Stones on the radio; "Has anybody seen my baby? Indeed!!" Let's see. You're tired of the Spice Girls and Rolling Stones, you have only _Trial By Fire_ Journey left... Sounds like dire straits to me! On trying to get netmail to Chuck @ 1:129/41: -> -> CA> Try addressing the mail to 1:129/41, leaving off the point (". -> -> CA> The other thought is Perry might not be running a full nodelis -> -> If it doesn't work this time...I give up! -> CA> So easily milady? -> Yep!! So easily.... You're no fun at all. For this you must listen to Spice Girls through twice. Do not annoy schizo moderaptors. Hey! Jennifer is done with the move I think, wonder if she wants her job back! Yoo hoo, Jennifer! Toodles, Chuck NP: "Dry County" : Bon Jovi : _Keep the Faith_ --- ViaMAIL!/WC4 v1.30 * Origin: Maltese Alien: Been there, done that!: (412) 279-9561 1:129/41.1) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 166 MUSIC Ref: EGW00034 Date: 12/26/97 From: CHUCK ALLEN Time: 05:47pm \/To: STEWY (Read 0 times) Subj: Re: Concerts!! >>> Quoting STEWY in a rabid respone to CHUCK ALLEN <<< Typing of Kids & Concerts: -> -> Well that was when I was younger; times change I guess...I was 14 -> -> went to my first concert...it was Aprilwine. -> CA> I was 17 when I went to my first concert. -> CA> They say girls develope faster than boys, don't they? -> Do they? I just got to go to a concert earlier than you; face it! Yeah, but I saw Deep Purple and Uriah Heep! Typing on rowdy children: -> Yep...and I'm just waiting Uh, for what? -> CA> Marilyn Manson?: ... -> -> -> and not allowed to play in Calgary...the promoter went to cour -> -> -> his case against the town... -> -> CA> And I'll bet the controversy doubled his record sales. :) -> -> Yep!! Probably did...I guess this would be a good thing for him... -> CA> I'm sure he doesn't mind all the publicity. If he didn't get it, -> CA> I doubt his records would have sold half as much. -> I guess that is true...I don't see what is so special about him? I would guess some of it is "shock value". Mom or dad sees CD cover in juniors room and spazzes or they catch a video and... -> I don't really like his music... It's not that bad for what it is. I prefer NIN or Stabbing Westward if I want to hear music like that. :) -> -> -> well, I'm not a perfect mother; but I try:-) -> -> CA> You certainly seem to be doing a wonderful job! -> -> Well, the question still out on that one! -> CA> Is it? -> Yep! I think t is!! I'm not she who is troll-like for nothing -> you know I know trolls live under bridges, but do they listen to music? -> -> -> I always tell my kids you can't judge a book by it's -> cover...and i -> -> at least I think it is! -> -> CA> I don't like MJ. I have a real problem with a grown man sleep -> -> CA> with children of any sex... -> -> well now you are judging a book by it's cover aren't you Chuck? -> CA> If it was innocent, why the huge payment to the child? -> I have to think about that one! And??? -> To get everyone off his back... To stay out of jail. He'd be a BIG HIT in there! ROTFL! -> I don't know? You're asking me this? You said not to judge a book by whose bed it shares... -> I see he's in the news again! Little boys again? ... -> -> -> No comments from the peanut gallery -> -> CA> Did I say anything! -> -> No, not yet anyway! -> CA> Can I now? -> Maybe!! What do I get out of the deal? A pardon from be required to listen to Spice Girls. Typing of: Marriage and family changes things: -> -> -> CA> joy, not something which "puts a damper on things". -> -> -> well let's just hope whenever you're day comes you can live up -> -> -> those words! -> -> CA> I shall surely try! -> -> Good luck!! -> CA> Will I need it? -> Maybe! Maybe not! Oh? Typing of: Songs for all occasions: -> -> -> CA> There are enough songs out there that I can usually find on -> -> -> Just one? -> -> CA> You want more than one! -> Yep!! It is a real test too!! Not really. Thus far in 1997 there have been nearly 50,000 albums released. Say 10 songs per album average. 500,000 songs to pick from. ... -> CA> Maybe we can get you listening to the whole song and not just the -> CA> beat. -> ya think? I thought the beat was the whole song? If that is what music is for you, works for me. I like to do things like quote from songs for my (maybe) girlfriends, things like: "I have been imagining myself Under you over you outside you I have been happy in my thinking" from Julia Fordham's song "Stay". Girlfriend (maybe) asked me if she will fall down and die when she hears it, knowing this is what I feel for her. :) -> ... -> -> -> CA> It is one of music's biggest appeals to me. But if you -> enjoy -> -> CA> for the music and rhythm - good for ya! -> -> -> That's me! -> -> CA> The rhythm Queen! -> -> Ah Hum!! Read this back to yourself Chuck!! And your point is??? -> CA> And just who should be sitting on my hands? -> I don't know; who should? I think you should!! Not so much fun as having (maybe) girlfriend do it. -> I think BW has finally lost it; it won't keep track of msgs now at -> all... not what I send or what I read...it's been working too much -> overtime the last couple of weeks! I suspect you've become addicted to the world of BBSes and Echoes. -> And I do not have back up!:-( Why would you have your back up? NP: "Blame It on the Love of Rock & Roll" : Bon Jovi : _Keep the Faith_ --- ViaMAIL!/WC4 v1.30 * Origin: Maltese Alien: Been there, done that!: (412) 279-9561 1:129/41.1) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 166 MUSIC Ref: EGW00035 Date: 12/26/97 From: CHUCK ALLEN Time: 06:18pm \/To: STEWY (Read 0 times) Subj: Re: Formality >>> Quoting STEWY in a steamy response to CHUCK ALLEN <<< -> -> -> -> No, I guess I don't...Well, anytime now would be good! -> -> Oh!! -> CA> Oh yeah! -> Lost this train of thought for sure!! ROTFL! Laughing so hard he has tears in his eyes, Chuck roots through the closet, finding his satin 101 Dalmatians Moderaptor outfit and speaks thusly between fits of laughter: Ms. Stewy, quoting is required in the MUSIC echo to prevent occurrences such as this. Ms. Stewy must have taken the Moderaptor's gentle reminder not to over quote to far. Still roaring in laughter, Chuck stows the Moderaptor outfit while wiping tears from his eyes, things having come full circle. Back in his guise of mild mannered and extremely rude Chuck, he resumes friendly chatting by asking: "And what has you running around with your mind elsewhere?" -> Took you long enough to answer back! Been a very busy time here. -> What's been keeping you busy? The soap opera which is a rough substitute for a life. Musician now ex girl friend and I have become a not item. Know any single women who enjoy music? ... Typing of: Where moss grows (not on Rolling Stones): -> -> Good place too!! Still like that song though!! "On the cover of a -> -> Rolling -> -> Stone: tis a good song... -> CA> Ah, yes it is! -> Do trees really stand still; so the moss can grow on it instead of a -> Rolling Stone? I wonder what kind of music Ents listen to? You ever read Lord of the Rings? -> -> -> CA> There are so many beautiful things to focus on, like -> music. : -> -> -> -> Name 20! -> -> CA> 1. Sunrise 11. A child's smile -> ... -> -> CA> 10. squirrels 20. walking aimlessly -> -> Ok...I get the point...guess I should have known better than to as -> -> that question!! -> CA> ROTFL! -> CA> Beauty is all around us, we have but to open our eyes! -> Really? Think my glasses will help out? Do they play music? ;-) We gotta keep this somewhat about music you know. I mean, I have my reputation as a nasty Moderaptor to consider. I'm listening to Bon Jovi's _These Days_, "Something for the Pain". ... Typing of: Turning 40 to end up listening to Liberace, Lawerence Welk.. -> CA> Don't you listen to them? -> All the time? Lawerence Welk is the highlight of my week!! There is something quaint, charming, and relaxing in his music. And when he turns on the bubble machine... -> CA> What else do you listen to? -> You had all that in my the list I did for you....but here it goes -> anyway: Finally! Talking about music! -> Bryan Adams, Journey, Boston, GNR, Van Hallen, Cheap Trick, Styx, -> Michael Bolton, Aerosmith, Meatloaf, Queen, etc...you get the drift? -> Yeah. -> some things I have on vinyl but can't listen to cuz I have no -> turntable: -> Cheap Trick, AC/DC(Highway to Hell) Peter Frampton(whoa is that -> old!), Meatloaf, BeeGees, Styx, ELO, Triumph, Steve Miller Band -> etc... I just had my vinyl of Styx and Bee Gees out. Had Cheap Trick's _Best of..._ in the CD player not so long ago. Listened to "The Flame", thinking of (maybe) girlfriend. Love Triumph, last saw them in concert in May of '85. Steve Miller I caught in '96 when he played here. And now I'm going to have to drag out my ELO collection... -> All pretty mainstream stuff! Oh? Is there something wrong with that? -> Newest singer or group: Alanis Morrisette, Jagged Little Pill -> What's your newest singer or group you've added to your collection? Just picked up today: Kim Fox _Moon Hut_ Best so far in December: Julia Fordham _East West_ Runner-up: Kacy Crowley _Anchorless_ Biggest load of do do: Metallica _Reload_ -> I did purchase a CD this weekend; Bon Jovi; New Jersey.....it was -> in the specials bin for $12.95. Ah! Good choice! I'm listening to _These Days_ right now! See you finally got a CD player. Welcome to the 80s! ;) ... Typing of: SG or BSB promo posters: -> > No joy at any of them for either BSB or SG... -> Don't worry about it...I'll go buy one for her at the store... -> They were on again this weekend; I did the noble thing and taped them -> her! Much better you than me. Did you catch Graham's forwarded message about the Spice Girls? -> CA> Sorry, but Wildcat swallowed the rest of the message... -> Sure, sure!! It has a 150 line limit, it tries very hard to make sure I keep brevity in mind. NP: "These Days" : Bon Jovi : _These Days_ --- ViaMAIL!/WC4 v1.30 * Origin: Maltese Alien: Been there, done that!: (412) 279-9561 1:129/41.1)