--------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 165 AIRGUNS Ref: F5G00150 Date: 04/14/98 From: PROPERTOOL Time: 06:37pm \/To: ALL (Read 0 times) Subj: Re: Benjamin 132 Disassembly Instruction18:37:0004/14/98 Message-ID: <639ad1c0.3533dfa7@aol.com> Newsgroups: AIRGUN.LIST Phil, Dean S. had originally wanted to remove a dent in the pump tube as I recall, not the barrel! ( same procedure with barrel dent of course, just have to hit the bearing ALOT harder!! :) Rob P. --- QScan/PCB v1.19b / 01-0671 * Origin: AirPower Home of AIRGUN*HQ 610-259-2193 (1:273/408) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 165 AIRGUNS Ref: F5G00151 Date: 04/14/98 From: JIM HENRY Time: 12:57pm \/To: FLETCHEROR@AOL.COM (Read 0 times) Subj: Re: Fw: THE DANGERS OF AUTOMOBILES 12:57:0004/14/98 FR>Interesting that you make the analogy between cars and guns. That is the sam >argument that the HCI is making. See their web page about licensing and >registration of handguns (http://www.handguncontrol.org/about-main.htm) Thei >point is to treat guns essentially the same way as we treat cars. Cars are >registered to the owner. Guns should be registered to the owner. Drivers f >cars are licensed, shooters of guns should be licensed. Why treat guns ny >less serious than cars? Fascinating, I thought you would be dead set agains Cars are more dangerous than guns. You have no right to a car. You do have a right to a gun. In spite of the fact that there are more guns than cars, virtually every automobile related death occurs by accident, while most operators of those vehicles are trying to handle an inherently dangerous machine as carefully as they can, or at least not intentionally trying to cause harm. Yet, there are 40,000+ accidental auto deaths annually versus about 1500 accidental firearms deaths in this country. Virtually all (except 1500) of the 35,000 firearms deaths are the result of deliberate intentional human action. Thinking of the children now, about 290 children die annually in the U.S. due to firearms accidents. Compare that to 3700 in automobile accidents, or 1200 in swimming pool accidents. The evidence is clear : firearms, which we have a RIGHT to, are inherently safe. Automobiles, which we have NO right to, are inherently dangerous. I have no problem regulating automobiles. * 1st 2.00 #9525 * if guns cause crime then cameras cause pornography --- QScan/PCB v1.19b / 01-0671 * Origin: AirPower Home of AIRGUN*HQ 610-259-2193 (1:273/408) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 165 AIRGUNS Ref: F5G00152 Date: 04/14/98 From: HAMILTON, ROBERT E,, DMD Time: 04:10pm \/To: ALL (Read 0 times) Subj: Re: Fw: THE DANGERS OF AUTOMOBILES 16:10:0004/14/98 Newsgroups: AIRGUN.LIST dtf: reread the spoof.....you miss the point. Robert Hamilton ---------- From: FletcherOR@aol.com To: Multiple recipients of list AIRGUN.LIST Subject: Re: Fw: THE DANGERS OF AUTOMOBILES Date: Tuesday, April 14, 1998 4:07AM In a message dated 98-04-13 21:28:45 EDT, you write: << A subscription to One Cylinder Short, the magazine that reflects the goals of ACI. - A really boffo bumper sticker that says, "This car should be banned." Call: 1-800-BAN-CARS. Have a credit card ready. >> Interesting that you make the analogy between cars and guns. That is the same argument that the HCI is making. See their web page about licensing and registration of handguns (http://www.handguncontrol.org/about-main.htm) Their point is to treat guns essentially the same way as we treat cars. Cars are registered to the owner. Guns should be registered to the owner. Drivers of cars are licensed, shooters of guns should be licensed. Why treat guns any less serious than cars? Fascinating, I thought you would be dead set against all that. Or is the licensing of drivers and registration of cars all part of some secret agenda to ban cars? dtf -- (Fletcheror) AirPower Information Services BBS * 610-259-2193 http://www.airpower.com Telnet://airpower.dyn.ml.org --- QScan/PCB v1.19b / 01-0671 * Origin: AirPower Home of AIRGUN*HQ 610-259-2193 (1:273/408) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 165 AIRGUNS Ref: F5G00153 Date: 04/14/98 From: PHIL PASKOS Time: 04:10pm \/To: ALL (Read 0 times) Subj: Re: CASA, 4th Silh Match Message-ID: <199804141955.PAA28359@pear.epix.net> Newsgroups: AIRGUN.LIST ---------- > > March CASA Silhouette Match Results: > > In the hotly contested Any Sight Pistol class (8 shooters), a new > Shooter, Paul Campegna, used a borrowed IZH46 to put himself into the > AAA class right out of the box and narrowly lose a shootoff with yours > truly (turkeys on the ramline) for Match winner . Norm Holmiller got > the 2nd place when Paul was bumped to 1st, and Tom Krutch, another new > shooter, used the same gun he had loaned Paul to take 3rd. Turkeys on the Ram Line? You guys are tough. Come on Larry, how many did you get out of how many tried. I gotta know. Phil.P. P.S. Good Shooting! --- QScan/PCB v1.19b / 01-0671 * Origin: AirPower Home of AIRGUN*HQ 610-259-2193 (1:273/408) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 165 AIRGUNS Ref: F5G00154 Date: 04/15/98 From: JIM HENRY Time: 05:51am \/To: FLETCHEROR@AOL.COM (Read 0 times) Subj: THE DANGERS OF AUTOMOBILES and Swimming 05:51:0004/15/98 FR>Where's the cut line here. You state that 3700 dead = dangerous and 290 dead >safe. Where do swimming pools fit in? 1200 dead, a little dangerous or a >little safe? FR>It is a bit stunning to hear a seemingly rational person state that somethin >ANYTHING, that causes 290 children a year to die is inherently safe? Are y >really ready to stand on that? Perhaps I should have said relatively safe? Since I already stated in a previous that even one child's death is too many, I had assumed you would retain that and assimilate it with my later message. Simply stated, since there are many more firearms than swimming pools, yet many more children are killed in swimming pool accidents than firearms accidents, we can conclude that firearms are much safer. So, would you support registration of and licensing for swimming pools? How about a waiting period? * 1st 2.00 #9525 * Depression is merely anger without enthusiasm. --- QScan/PCB v1.19b / 01-0671 * Origin: AirPower Home of AIRGUN*HQ 610-259-2193 (1:273/408) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 165 AIRGUNS Ref: F5G00155 Date: 04/15/98 From: WJS/WI/USA Time: 08:07pm \/To: ALL (Read 0 times) Subj: Re: AG Forum/ AOL 4.0 With Internet Expl20:07:0004/15/98 Message-ID: <35353EFD.24576D86@concentric.net> Newsgroups: AIRGUN.LIST Organization: (Remove "DOT Spam" from return address to reach me) FWIW, I'm running Netscape (latest version, I forgot) on a Win95 through Concentric Network. I've had no problems with the forum at all. If I understand it correctly AOL uses a form of cacheing that messes with Tom & Edith's forum reload. I'm sure someone can give a better description. I would suspect it's an AOL conflict. I would check there first. WJS/wi/usa --- QScan/PCB v1.19b / 01-0671 * Origin: AirPower Home of AIRGUN*HQ 610-259-2193 (1:273/408) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 165 AIRGUNS Ref: F5G00156 Date: 04/15/98 From: DAVE S FRANEY Time: 08:07pm \/To: ALL (Read 0 times) Subj: ARMED4: BSA SuperTen-Outstanding 20:07:0004/15/98 Message-ID: <19980415.202207.9838.0.ARMED4@juno.com> Newsgroups: AIRGUN.LIST Hello Airgunners All, I have a field test report of my new Beesa to share with you. I bought a new .22 cal BSA SuperTen from Airguns of Airizona (thanks again Robert) with a custom made moderator. The rifle is a simple bolt action and has a ten round rotary magazine that is easy and quick to load. It runs at 1005fps/32fpe with .22 Premiers for the first 50 shots out of the 400cc bottle. The drop off after that is more noticeable on the Chrony than on the paper. It is still putting out 20fpe at 80 shots but the end is near. I have Kodiaks, Crow Mags and Dae Sungs en route from Airgun Express and will advise on their output. The scope on the rifle is a Simmons 6.5x20-44 AO without turrets in superb B-Square mounts. The gun is primarily intended for hunting but I'm trying to get my airgun club (WWCCA) to allow a MAGNUM Field Target Match (no targets closer than 40 yards) or something like that. Bring out the Careers, AR6's and Crow Magnums and lets punish some metal critters. The moderator that AOA supplied me with is 8 inches long and made of aluminum. Inside are two chambers, one large one with mesh packing toward the front and boy does it work. It lowers the deafening pre-charge blast to the level of a Crosman 1077 with a half-gone powerlet. Its much quieter than my RN10 and is just as accurate. Five degreased (Birchwood-Casey Degreaser) FP-10 soaked .22 Premiers into 0.342 at 50 yards was my best group on 4-11-98. Most other groups hovered around 0.75 as the shifty winds bopped my pellets to and fro. The heavier slugs ought to settle that and bring it down to 0.500 average. The weight of the whole package is 8.5 lbs and balances about 5 inches in front of the trigger. The stock has a moderate right handed cheek piece but is totally ambidexterous. Sometimes you have to shoot from the 'wrong' side in the field and besides I think those cheek piece flares are just intended to rip off 'lefties'. I am interested in hearing from any FT or hunting airgunner and especially other SuperTen owners. Dave Franey 1675 18th St Wyandotte Mi. 48192 734.283.7001 armed4@juno.com dfraney@orbseal.orscheln.com --------- End forwarded message ---------- _____________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] --- QScan/PCB v1.19b / 01-0671 * Origin: AirPower Home of AIRGUN*HQ 610-259-2193 (1:273/408) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 165 AIRGUNS Ref: F5G00157 Date: 04/15/98 From: DEAN.SPEIDEL@GEMIS.GE.COM Time: 03:09pm \/To: ALL (Read 0 times) Subj: RE: Benjamin 132 Disassembly Instruction15:09:0004/15/98 Message-ID: <174D4F506B76D111A92600805FEAA772F0687D@inftwe01misge.motors Newsgroups: AIRGUN.LIST I worry that I'd end up re-sizing the whole tube with the ball bearing idea. Then where do I get an oversize pump piston assembly? :<) Dean Speidel ---------- From: jonj@netcom.com[SMTP:jonj@netcom.com] Reply To: AIRGUN.LIST@airgunhq.com Sent: 14 April, 1998 12:07 PM To: Multiple recipients of list AIRGUN.LIST Subject: Re: Benjamin 132 Disassembly Instructions/Dent Removal How do they get it out, or do they have the simplicity of the trumpet part being a thru-tube? The Benjamin tube is only open at one end, though if you had all the special tools you could take the valve apart. Quite a mess to get apart and together without the correct tools (read: single purpose - not available at Sears.) Then you could drive the ball bearing back out that way - through the small air inlet hole in the valve body. I like your idea. I'd hard solder a rod to the proper size ball bearing. There might be a problem getting it started as the tube tends to narrow slightly at the barrel end. It's worth a try. Jon >Jon, >Trumpet repairpersons use a suitibly sized ball bearing driven through the >tube to remove dents, I am told that it works very well. >Rob Prosio > > >-- > (Propertool) -- (Jon Jenkins) AirPower Information Services BBS * 610-259-2193 http://www.airpower.com Telnet://airpower.dyn.ml.org --- QScan/PCB v1.19b / 01-0671 * Origin: AirPower Home of AIRGUN*HQ 610-259-2193 (1:273/408) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 165 AIRGUNS Ref: F5G00158 Date: 04/15/98 From: LARRY DURHAM Time: 04:08pm \/To: ALL (Read 0 times) Subj: Re: CASA, 4th Silh Match Message-ID: <35351287.789D45B8@mindspring.com> Newsgroups: AIRGUN.LIST Rich, Here it is again( same as last time): ANY SIGHT PISTOL MW, Larry Durham 36 Morini, Leop 10X, Prem 7.9 1st, Paul Compegna 36 IZH46, Leop 6-20X 2nd, Norm Holmiller 35 FWB 102, RWS 2-7X 3rd, Tom Krutch 33 IZH46, Leop 6-20X Joe Haddad 23 MKI/LD, Tasco 4-16X, .22 Meisters Tim McMurray 22 Crosman MKI/LD, 3-9Leop, .22 Meisters R. Shames 22 Dz 747, Bush 4-12X, Prem 7.9 Alex Newton 15 Dz 717, 3-9 Tasco ----------------------------- Rich Hume wrote: > I appreciate the posting, but I recall the numbers on the = > > any sight match were left off. Not real important, just > curious. > > - Rich > > -- > (Rich Hume) > AirPower Information Services BBS * 610-259-2193 > http://www.airpower.com Telnet://airpower.dyn.ml.org --- QScan/PCB v1.19b / 01-0671 * Origin: AirPower Home of AIRGUN*HQ 610-259-2193 (1:273/408)