--------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 113 OS/2 Ref: F5G00455 Date: 04/12/98 From: DAVE RICHMOND Time: 11:39pm \/To: BRYAN SCHWARTZ (Read 4 times) Subj: Re: FAT from HPFS BS> OS/2 to access a FAT partition, even if Bootmanager has given them BS> both the same call letter ( C ). Both partitions are primary. The point of assigning these two to the boot manager and C: partitions is so you can boot to *either* one you chose, but ONLY ONE may be active at a time. Hope you got a copy of partition magic sitting around somewhere :< --- Smoke It! * Origin: The Cult of The Cancer Ridden: MC Enterprises (1:133/423) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 113 OS/2 Ref: F5G00456 Date: 04/11/98 From: KENNETH ABRAMS Time: 02:39pm \/To: JUSTIN BAUSTERT (Read 4 times) Subj: INET access Hello Justin! 10 Apr 98 18:24, Justin Baustert wrote to Derrick Neve: JB> It sounds as though you've lost your DNS entries.. Under Warp3, JB> you'll be looking for the file "RESOLV", under Warp4 the file is JB> "RESOLV2". Plain text file, mine consists of only 2 lines. Here's JB> the format: Why does everyone keep saying Warp4 uses resolv2 vice resolv? I'm running Warp4, my internet stuff works just fine, and there's not a resolv2 file anywhere near my system. resolv, yes, resolv2, no. Kenneth (kabrams@erols.com) --- GoldED/2 2.50+ * Origin: Lexington Park, Maryland (1:109/921.67) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 113 OS/2 Ref: F5G00457 Date: 04/13/98 From: KENNETH ABRAMS Time: 06:43pm \/To: DENIS TONN (Read 4 times) Subj: Adsl,Dhcp &Ddns Hello Denis! 11 Apr 98 19:36, Denis Tonn wrote to Matt Ryan: DT> MSD won't properly detect the card (and others), particularly when DT> running in a VDM under OS/2. I never "trust" it, even when running DT> native Dos (it has lied to me several times). Somebody once told me that MSD doesn't really check things much and makes a lot of assumptions based on common practice, rather than actually looking at the hardware. That it was just a simple tool to help people know what to say to tech support. DT> If this is a "PNP" type of card, you may have to disable the "PNP" DT> feature on the card and force an IRQ and I/O address selection, both In my experience, that's usually been the preferred course with any PNP device, when and if possible. I've yet to see PNP actually work reliably on any system, even when "100% PNP". DT> under Win95 and under OS/2. Win95 has been known to "reconfigure" PNP DT> cards differently each time it boots (use MPTS and edit the card We had this problem with the 3Com PNP cards even with just DOS. Putting a 3C509 in one of our first pc's with a PNP bios, we found that the settings on the card would change pretty much between every boot, making it impossible to configure the netware client. Fortunately, you can disable PNP on them, which is the only way we ever got that box on the network. Frankly, I wish the originator(s) of PNP would shove it....back where it came from. Rather than simplify my life, it's created problems where none should exist. Kenneth (kabrams@erols.com) --- GoldED/2 2.50+ * Origin: Lexington Park, Maryland (1:109/921.67) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 113 OS/2 Ref: F5G00458 Date: 04/16/98 From: ROY J. TELLASON Time: 10:12pm \/To: WILL HONEA (Read 4 times) Subj: fiddling with install so Will Honea wrote in a message to Roy J. Tellason: WH> Roy J. Tellason wrote to all on 04-15-1998 RT> I've gotten to the other cd this time, the "bonus pack" RT> stuff. No problems with installing it except for that RT> multimedia viewer package, which seemed to want to insist RT> on installing to drive c:. WH> Assuming C: was where you installed OS/2 and you put the base WH> multimedia stuff on C:, that's where it's gonna go - it extends WH> multimedia (MMOS2 directory) Oh, OK. That makes some sense, I guess... RT> Other than that, I've been playing with the system, and RT> exploring things. The biggest problem I am seeing so far is RT> the fact that I'm running it on a 386dx40 with only 8M of ram, RT> and there seems to be a tendency for the thing to start RT> thrashing the HD at the slightest provocation! Slow as heck, RT> too, and I guess I can see why people seem to want to throw RT> RAM at this OS, but I can't do anything about that at this RT> point in time unless I can find a good deal on some 4M 30-pin RT> parts. WH> As my pappy used to say 'No Sh--!': of course it's slow - WH> REALLY slow. As I recall, you are working with Warp 3. Warp connect, actually. WH> With 8 megs of RAM, you probably have a minimum swap file size WH> of 12 - 14 meg. That sounds about right, it was somewhere around there when I last looked at it... WH> That's just to hold the OS/2 swaps. Couple of things that will WH> help some - it's STILL gonna be a dog, tho. First, use WH> selective install and WIPE OUT THE MULTIMEDIA SUPPORT! It's a WH> big memory load. Oh? You mean no sound card support, etc.? All that it's doing at this point is using the sound card for opening/closing windows, occasionally other things, but I can live without that, I guess. WH> Next, don't even thinka about running the Internet stuff - you WH> wouldn't have enough memory for even a Pentium 266 to run at WH> decent speeds. Ok. I had installed that, mostly to look at the doc files and such (there sure is a lot of confusing info in there!), but I don't expect to *use* it from that machine. WH> After that, use minimal graphics on the desktop: solid colors, WH> most icons hidden in folders, etc. Ok, I can do that, no problem. WH> Next, bump the swap file to 32 meg or so. Editing config.sys, I take it? Are you saying bump the "initial" parameter of that swappath line in there? (Just checking...) RT> Anything else I can do with this? Any particulars I could post RT> here that would give a clue as to what I'm dealing with? WH> Still gonna be a dog and the biggest reason is memory - your WH> just way under-gunned. The only way you'll get decent WH> performance with that hardware is lots of memory or run a WH> text-only command line installation. I ran OS/2 2.11 in 8 megs WH> for development and it was acceptable (for that point in time) WH> until I installed multimedia - then it ground to a halt. I read in this book here that 3 has _less_ of a memory requirement than 2.1 did. It'd sure simplify things for me if I could keep the network support, though. WH> You might be a bit happier with no multimedia and no TCP/IP WH> stuff, but I doubt it. Fun exercise, tho. I can lose the tcp/ip stuff, no problem. I'm also looking around with some thoughts about what I might be able to trade up to, since I have a number of 386 boards here. I've got this new drive still sitting in its packaging waiting for me to figure out what to do with it, and I'm thinking that building another 386 machine for the bbs, moving the drives over to that, and sticking that new 6.4G drive in here might be the way to go. Then I can network it to the other machine and run stuff off the drive here. I thought, way before I even started to try my first install, that 8M might be a little marginal, so before I started even messing around with this stuff I upped this machine (a 5x86/133) to 16M, figuring that'd be a good start. And I'll be happy to augment that a bit further as finances permit, too. Now if I can just remember what it was that somebody said I needed to change to support that big drive... email: roy.j.tellason%tanstaaf@frackit.com --- * Origin: TANSTAAFL BBS 717-432-0764 (1:270/615) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 113 OS/2 Ref: F5G00459 Date: 04/16/98 From: ROY J. TELLASON Time: 10:22pm \/To: SARAH NUNEZ (Read 4 times) Subj: fiddling with install some more... Sarah Nunez wrote in a message to Roy J. Tellason: SN> On 15 Apr 98, Roy J. Tellason writes to all: RT> but I can't do anything about that at this point in time unless I can RT> find a good deal on some 4M 30-pin parts. SN> Last I checked (about 6 months ago) CDW had them for about SN> $25 each. Ouch. I'd need to buy _four_ of them at a pop, and that's more than double what I paid for the equivalent amount of 72-pin ram... I'm almost better off upgrading my hardware, here! email: roy.j.tellason%tanstaaf@frackit.com --- * Origin: TANSTAAFL BBS 717-432-0764 (1:270/615) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 113 OS/2 Ref: F5G00460 Date: 04/12/98 From: QUENTIN STEPHENS Time: 01:11pm \/To: RICH WONNEBERGER (Read 4 times) Subj: Warp 4 On Friday Rich Wonneberger said RW> *** Quoting Quentin Stephens to Sarah Nunez dated 04-08-98 *** RW> > I'd guess it can be stripped down to a 2.8MB floppy and 2MB ram, plus RW> > a few MB of HD space :} RW> RW> Warp 4 will boot with 2 meg ram?? RW> I'm kinda doubtfull.. There was a guy who used to frequent this echo who used to love proving such. He got Warp 3 to boot in 2 MB. qts Moderator FidoNet OSDebate Home: qts@nildram.co.uk, qts@donor2.demon.co.uk. UseNet users please use address in sig, from address is invalid. --- Maximus/2 3.01 * Origin: DoNoR/2,Woking UK (44-1483-717905) (2:440/4) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 113 OS/2 Ref: F5G00461 Date: 04/13/98 From: DAVID NOON Time: 05:09pm \/To: TORSTEN BALLE KOEFOED (Read 4 times) Subj: Beginlibpath? In a message dated 04-11-98, Torsten Balle Koefoed said to Denis Tonn about Beginlibpath? Hi Torsten, DT> In fact, I have here a "program object" that extends the standard DT> program object, allowing "environment" variables to be set before DT> the program starts. TK>Where can I get this? Possibly in the OS2REXX echo of FidoNet. TK>I remember seeing this feature in the Merlin beta, but for some reason it TK>wasn't there in the final version. I'm not sure what Denis's program does, but it might do something very similar to the REXXUTIL functions SysCreateObject() and SysSetObjectData(). These can be used to create WPS setup strings for program objects, and include the assignment of environment variables that are established before the program object is started, when it is double clicked. The only restriction I have found is that BEGINLIBPATH and ENDLIBPATH don't seem to work when created by the WPS; the environment variables are there, but the LIBPATH extensions are not performed by the WPS. For more information on this, you can check Dick Goran's "REXX Reference Summary Handbook", or join us in the OS2REXX echo and ask there. Regards Dave ___ * MR/2 2.25 #353 * "You were only supposed to blow the bloody doors off!" --- Maximus/2 3.01 * Origin: DoNoR/2,Woking UK (44-1483-717905) (2:440/4) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 113 OS/2 Ref: F5G00462 Date: 04/16/98 From: STEPHEN HAFFLY Time: 08:00am \/To: STEVE AMBROSINI (Read 4 times) Subj: INjoy On (13 Apr 98) Steve Ambrosini wrote to James Mckenzie... Hi Steve, JM> in-joy registered will do all of the above... SA> Ok, It claims that the unregistered version is complete. Although $35 SA> is tolerable as an expense, I have been trapped with other software, SA> after paying the registration, that simply did not live up to its SA> expectations. As an unregistered version, I cannot get a single SA> connect. I would like to at least see options that tell me that these SA> capabilities are there. SA> Several people here have vouched that it does do what I want. I may SA> consider taking a blind stab at this one. SA> After connecting to my ISP, I get: SA> "06:46:03:31 TX Config-req (periodic) id=50" I get this periodically too. I called Primenet's technical support, and they suggested disabling my modem's compression (AT %C0). I guess they had done some reconfiguring of their modems, and now that I have done this, I get better results. Check all of your settings, MRU, VJ compression, modem init settings, etc. SA> Some times I get: SA> "Invalid Protocal 0xf81c", SA> "Invalid FCS" and "Invalid Protocal 0x38fc". SA> randomly appearing, but not in every session, in the list of IDs. I don't know about these during the connection. I get invalid FCS during the session periodically. TTYL, Stephen Team OS/2, Team GEOS OS/2 & New Deal Office 98 - A great combination. ... There cannot be a crisis today; my schedule is already full. --- PPoint 2.05 * Origin: Thunder Mountains Point (1:309/63.4) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 113 OS/2 Ref: F5G00463 Date: 04/16/98 From: LAWRENCE R. MINTZ Time: 10:33pm \/To: SARAH NUNEZ (Read 4 times) Subj: fiddling with install some more... SN> On 15 Apr 98, Roy J. Tellason writes to all: RT>> but I can't do anything about that at this point in time unless I can RT>> find a good deal on some 4M 30-pin parts. SN> Last I checked (about 6 months ago) CDW had them for SN> about $25 each. The vendors at the local computer shows here in Maryland have been selling them for $14 each. Larry --- RA/Pro 2.50 * Origin: Mintz BBS, Silver Spring, MD (1:109/493) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 113 OS/2 Ref: F5G00464 Date: 04/16/98 From: WILL HONEA Time: 08:07am \/To: PETER FRENCH (Read 4 times) Subj: Java Performance Peter French wrote to Murray Lesser on 04-16-1998 PF> In this case, I can't see how it is possible to get at the PF> benchmark applet without being "connected". If I could download the PF> sucker, I'd try the JVM "native". It's available from the same site - got a copy right here and it makes no big difference. Th Inet version loads everthing into place, then runs the test. Aside from a small overhead from the NS task, it should be pretty close. Will Honea --- Maximus/2 2.02 * Origin: OS/2 Shareware BBS, telnet://bbs.os2bbs.com (1:109/347)