--------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 163 WORD PERFECT Ref: F4C00001 Date: 04/07/98 From: FRANCO RIOS Time: 10:19pm \/To: ALL (Read 2 times) Subj: Converters for Mac? Hello All! We have Corel WP 8 for Win95. I cannot find any "Save As" options for any Macintosh Word Processors or anyplace in "Setup" to select/add such converters. Does anybody have any clues as to where I could find such converters? Thank you in advance! - Franco Rios --- FLAME v1.1 * Origin: Electric Village, Sacramento INK Echo HQ, 916-362-5644 (1:203/23) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 163 WORD PERFECT Ref: F4E00000 Date: 04/09/98 From: BILL DAWSON Time: 02:13pm \/To: FRANCO RIOS (Read 2 times) Subj: Converters for Mac? -=> Quoting BRUCE WILSON to FRANCO RIOS <=- FR> I cannot find any "Save As" options for any Macintosh Word FR> Processors or anyplace in "Setup" to select/add such FR> converters. BW> It seems generally cross-platform save/read options are extremely BW> limited. I think there was a time when a WPDOS and WPMac version BW> would save/read each other's files, but that was only WPD-WPM and BW> only a single version of each, as I recall; and I don't know how BW> well it worked. AFAIK, with the omission of that second file that doesn't exist in the WinTel world, WordPerfect's file formats remained much the same within version levels. Thus, a "5.1" WP format was the same on just about any platform you could get WP for. Since WordPerfect still allows its users to save to older file format versions, that could well be the answer. BW> The problem of such cross-platform activity is more complex than BW> program a's saving in program b's format. For example the issue of BW> file format aside, Mac disks can't be read by IBMs at all without BW> special software, IBM disks couldn't be read by Macs before about BW> System 7, and the IBM's probably only going to be able to read the BW> data fork of the Mac file. You can avoid the problem of disk formats (as opposed to file for- mats) by transferring files electronically via networks or modems. BW> All that said, you might be able to save/read in plain text format BW> if all else fails. Bill D ... I was learning Tolkien Ring, but decided I'm Baggins it... -Russ E. --- RemoteAccess 2.52+ * Origin: Northern Lights! * San Antonio * 210-499-6299 V34/VFC (1:387/23) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 163 WORD PERFECT Ref: F4E00001 Date: 04/09/98 From: FRANCO RIOS Time: 05:53pm \/To: BRUCE WILSON (Read 2 times) Subj: CONVERTERS FOR MAC? In a reply, Bruce Wilson wrote to Franco Rios: FR> It is too bad that WP8 doesn't carry that Mac file capability. FR> It would have been handy to do our word processing in WP then FR> export as an MSWord for Mac format. BW> Why do you have to do all this cross-platform file conversion? Because our clients want us to. My wife operates a home-based word processing/DTP/business service. Some of our clients use Power Mac portables or have Macs at their office/business. They don't want to do the actual transcription or typing work, but they want it in a Mac file format. We key it, format it, print it, put it on a disk, fax it, mail it, mail merge it, on and on and on.... Business service businesses like ours are the back office for so-called "one person corporations." We also belong to an association of independent business service providers like ourselves, some of whom are Mac equipped. So cross-platform file conversion is common in many WP/DTP services. But I guess if it was too easy, clients wouldn't pay us to do it for them? Be seeing ya! - Franco Rios --- FLAME v1.1 * Origin: Electric Village, Sacramento INK Echo HQ, 916-362-5644 (1:203/23) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 163 WORD PERFECT Ref: F4E00002 Date: 04/08/98 From: BRUCE WILSON Time: 07:23am \/To: FRANCO RIOS (Read 2 times) Subj: Re: Converters for Mac? On 7 Apr 98 10:19pm, FRANCO RIOS wrote to ALL: FR> I cannot find any "Save As" options for any Macintosh Word FR> Processors or anyplace in "Setup" to select/add such FR> converters. It seems generally cross-platform save/read options are extremely limited. I think there was a time when a WPDOS and WPMac version would save/read each other's files, but that was only WPD-WPM and only a single version of each, as I recall; and I don't know how well it worked. The problem of such cross-platform activity is more complex than program a's saving in program b's format. For example the issue of file format aside, Mac disks can't be read by IBMs at all without special software, IBM disks couldn't be read by Macs before about System 7, and the IBM's probably only going to be able to read the data fork of the Mac file. All that said, you might be able to save/read in plain text format if all else fails. * Silver Xpress V4.4P [Reg] --- Platinum Xpress/Win/Wildcat5! v2.0 * Origin: Get All Your Fido Here! telnet://docsplace.dynip.com (1:3603/140) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 163 WORD PERFECT Ref: F4E00003 Date: 04/08/98 From: AUGUST ABOLINS Time: 11:06am \/To: DAVE NIMON (Read 2 times) Subj: WP8 suite service pac Hi Dave! On 04-03-1998 at 04:45:00PM, Dave Nimon (1:250/1004) wrote to Roland Stiner: DN> It was announced today that Corel worked a deal with the Ontario DN> Government to provide WP 8 Suite in every school (for $425 million DN> [tax] dollars). That might explain why Corel's stock is climbing. ?? Might be worthwhile to buy right now. .: /|ug --- FleetStreet 1.22+ * Origin: -- eXpress_><_conneXions -- bancroft, ontario (1:163/144) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 163 WORD PERFECT Ref: F4E00004 Date: 04/08/98 From: FRANCO RIOS Time: 06:44pm \/To: BRUCE WILSON (Read 2 times) Subj: CONVERTERS FOR MAC? In a reply, Bruce Wilson wrote to Franco Rios BW> It seems generally cross-platform save/read options are extremely BW> limited. I think there was a time when a WPDOS and WPMac version BW> would save/read each other's files, but that was only WPD-WPM and BW> only a single version of each, as I recall; and I don't know how BW> well it worked. Hi Bruce! Thank you for the reply! It is too bad that WP8 doesn't carry that Mac file capability. It would have been handy to do our word processing in WP then export as an MSWord for Mac format. BW> The problem of such cross-platform activity is more complex than BW> program a's saving in program b's format. For example the issue of BW> file format aside, Mac disks can't be read by IBMs at all without BW> special software, IBM disks couldn't be read by Macs before about BW> System 7, and the IBM's probably only going to be able to read the BW> data fork of the Mac file. That used to be a pain in the past. Macs have been able to read PC disks for at least 5 years, which is forever in computer years (grin). Before that, I would transfer files between Mac/PC with modem software and null modem cables. I bought my first Mac in 1984 and for a long time the biggest source of Mac files was a pc based bbs running on Opus software. Nowadays, I can run into Kinko's and do my own file transfer in under 5 minutes on their Macs for about $1 in computer rental time. But I digress.... BW> All that said, you might be able to save/read in plain text format BW> if all else fails. To get around this one for now, I am having to export to WP 5, import into MSWord/Windows, then export to MSWord/Mac. MSW does have a good stock of file converters which work fairly well. Anyway, thanks again for your reply. I am thinking there must be some kind of converter out there somewhere! - Franco Rios --- FLAME v1.1 * Origin: Electric Village, Sacramento INK Echo HQ, 916-362-5644 (1:203/23) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 163 WORD PERFECT Ref: F4E00005 Date: 04/08/98 From: FRANCO RIOS Time: 07:07pm \/To: PAULETTE MATTHEWS (Read 2 times) Subj: FILE Format Blues In a reply, Paulette Matthews wrote to Edward Rutledge: PM> You have a good point here. My husband is a Word user, and has PM> tried to convince me that Word has everything that WordPerfect PM> does....and don't you believe it, it doesn't. Hi Paulette! Hi Edward! My wife and I have been word processing on computers for years. My wife even created newsletters for a non-profit cancer research organization using Wordperfect for DOS! For a few years we have been using MSWord as our main DTP workhorse, but we kept WP5/6 on at least one computer for grunt work jobs like transcription, term papers, dissertations, because the macros work better. We recently upgraded our software to Corel Office 8 and I like WP8 well enough. It's just different. PM> One particular feature is the ability to recognize and transcribe PM> other file formats. The other day I actually had a .txt format PM> and Word could not even guess at what it was or convert it. I would have to classify this problem as operator error in MSW. (grin) PM> WordPerfect had no problem at all. This is VERY important if PM> you have been using computer for over 10 years and have occasion to want PM> to look at something old now and then! Just thought I would PM> share that. Actually....someone should share that information with the PM> people who use Word... Funny you should mention that! The MS_WORD echo fell off of FIDOnet last year! I am trying to get it back on the FIDOnet backbone. I need users to ask their sysops to request their echo coordinators that the MS_WORD echo be added to the backbone. (See it how it all goes up the line) (grin) I did find that WP8 has converters listed for WORDSTAR. WORDSTAR is another echo that fell off FIDO last year, I am trying to get it back on FIDO. If anybody reading this message could help out some of us multi-platform word processors, please send a request up the line for MS_WORD and WORDSTAR echoes to be added to the FIDO backbone. These echoes are waiting on the backstat.na file. PM> they really don't know what they are missing, by and large. You're right. Word processing software has become so powerful and feature packed, it takes constant study to remain competent, much less be any good at it. smile) I still find that a few jobs can only be handled by a typewriter, like multi-part job and college applications. Not many word processors will even take these jobs! I can name my own price, sometimes I even charge by the letter! Anyway, that's all I have to say for now. Be seeing ya! - Franco Rios --- FLAME v1.1 * Origin: Electric Village, Sacramento INK Echo HQ, 916-362-5644 (1:203/23) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 163 WORD PERFECT Ref: F4E00006 Date: 04/08/98 From: MIEMIE BOOYSEN Time: 01:03pm \/To: EDWARD RUTLEDGE (Read 2 times) Subj: Same here. ER> Same here. I have WordPerfect v5.1 for DOS on my system, and I find ER> it interesting to not how many people are using this program. When ER> something is as good as WordPerfect, why should we go onto something ER> else, especially considering that WP has all the whistles and bells ER> that I will ever need. Good day out there, I am new here but have read the messages passing to and fro, although I do not understand 1% of the discussions. I use WP5.1 solely for typing court records - transcription typing - and have never had the time or the inclination to learn anything more than I need to know to do this work. Sometimes I wish that I did know more about the programme and I was wondering whether perhaps there is a "book of instructions" or some such where one can look for information of "how to do this or that or the other" like for instance what to press for what commands etc. I have been doing this job for 8 years and will stay in this programme for as long as I type these records as it is used by our whole organization. From this you will see that I am very ignorant about these things, so if anybody can recommend a simple "instruction" book, I will appreciate it. At least I can manage the macro's - I use that a lot. Thank you, Miemie Booysen. --- WtrGate 0.92.p5 gamma Unreg * Origin: Unisa Editorial, Pretoria, Gauteng, RSA 27-12-429-8641 (5:7106/20) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 163 WORD PERFECT Ref: F4E00007 Date: 04/09/98 From: BRUCE WILSON Time: 07:15am \/To: FRANCO RIOS (Read 2 times) Subj: Re: CONVERTERS FOR MAC? On 8 Apr 98 06:44pm, FRANCO RIOS wrote to BRUCE WILSON: FR> It is too bad that WP8 doesn't carry that Mac file capability. FR> It would have been handy to do our word processing in WP then FR> export as an MSWord for Mac format. Why do you have to do all this cross-platform file conversion? * Silver Xpress V4.4P [Reg] --- Platinum Xpress/Win/Wildcat5! v2.0 * Origin: Get All Your Fido Here! telnet://docsplace.dynip.com (1:3603/140) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 163 WORD PERFECT Ref: F4E00008 Date: 04/09/98 From: BRUCE WILSON Time: 07:15am \/To: MIEMIE BOOYSEN (Read 2 times) Subj: Re: Same here. On 8 Apr 98 01:03pm, MIEMIE BOOYSEN wrote to EDWARD RUTLEDGE: MB> ... I use WP5.1 ... MB> ... perhaps there is a "book of instructions" ... There were some very good basic (and advanced) instruction books on WP 5.1 when it was current, but it's almost impossible to find them now, other than maybe at used book stores. * Silver Xpress V4.4P [Reg] --- Platinum Xpress/Win/Wildcat5! v2.0 * Origin: Get All Your Fido Here! telnet://docsplace.dynip.com (1:3603/140)