--------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 162 ADOPTEES Ref: DC100000 Date: 07/30/96 From: CO-MODERATOR Time: 03:08pm \/To: ALL (Read 2 times) Subj: Echo Rules Posting ADOPTEES ECHO RULES AND GUIDELINES Revised 27 April 1996 ALL USERS WHO HAVE ACCESS TO THIS ECHO MUST READ THIS. BY POSTING MESSAGES IN THE ECHO, YOU AGREE TO ACCEPT AND ABIDE BY THE RULES OF THIS CONFERENCE AS POSTED. In compliance with FidoNet Echo Policy, the conference rules will be posted no less than once per month, and nothing in these rules will supersede or replace any valid FidoNet rule or policy. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- 1. All rules violations are to be addressed ONLY by the Moderator, or Co-Moderator. Please leave the moderating to the Moderators. 2. 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Since that organization is taking in money for their operation, they can afford to pay to send out their membership solicitations. 14. Referrals to people who belong to such organizations which could or would involve any fee(s) having to be paid by the person being referred should include full disclosure of the fee(s) involved. This is intended to prevent people from being "blind sided" by any fee(s) which they were not aware of prior to making the initial contact. 15. Placing collect phone calls to people seeking assistance in this echo without their *_advance_* permission to call collect is not permitted since that would cause people to incurr a financial obligation (or burden) prior to granting their permission to do so. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- You may reach the moderators at the following Netmail addresses: Michael Kirst 1:3633/36 - or - Bob Heide 1:227/3 --- MsgPost 1.1 * Origin: The Noble House BBS - Kissimmee, FL (407)847-8990 (1:3633/36) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 162 ADOPTEES Ref: DC100001 Date: 07/30/96 From: DEREK HENDERSON Time: 06:29am \/To: MARGARET COLLINS (Read 2 times) Subj: Being a Birth Mother... In a msg on , Margaret Collins of 1:382/1009 writes: MC> To not know reasons or have an understanding of why your mother MC> gave you up for adoption must be very hard for you at times, but I MC> do understand your birth mother's fear/reluctance of knowing you. It is hard at times, especially arround my birthday and xmas. MC> My heart tells me everyday that I need to at least know if he is alive MC> and doing well, but there is also the very real fear of rejection. MC> There is also the very big fear of not living up to someone's MC> expectations. (Will he think I am to ugly, not smart enough, As his mother, I don't think he will have any expectations. He will be happy to just know who you are. MC> My life when I gave birth was not a good one, and I was in no MC> way prepared to raise a child in the circumstances that surrounded MC> me. I realize that yes, there are programs like welfare and other MC> programs, but I did not want him to go without the basic needs of life MC> that I could not afford. As your son grows older, I think he will realize that it was not his fault that he wes given up. He will find out what money and bills are all about and be able to relate that back to the days when you were his age...I think he will understand. Its not an easy thing not to have your parents, even if you adopted parents. I have ywt to meed any adopted person who is bitter towards his/her parents. Generally, I can understand why my mother had to give me up, and I believe your son will too. Bye for now, hope to hear from you soon!! Derek Henderson --- msgedsq 2.0.5 * Origin: Pentium Zone BBS, (705) 748-3352 (1:253/116) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 162 ADOPTEES Ref: DC100002 Date: 07/30/96 From: SHARON COYNE Time: 11:28pm \/To: ALL (Read 2 times) Subj: Approach Can anyone help me? My uncle, who is helping find my birthfather wants us to take a ride to Kent, OH where we are almost sure he lives from the address we got from the Internet by way of a friend of mine. He says we can ride past his house and if he is out stop to talk to him. I don't know if this would be a good idea or not. Our main plan is to visit the churches there and ask if he belongs to any of them and talk to a priest or minister first. Personally, I like the latter plan better. My birth father doesn't know that I exist and I believe that would be quite a shock to him. I think it would be better to ease into his life somehow, after all he has to be in his early to mid 70's. Can anyone give me a good idea on how to do this very carefully? I don't want the man to start out hating me. HELP!!! * OLX 2.1 TD * Every day is a new beginning-and a new chance to blow it. -*- Opus-CBCS 1.7x via O_QWKer 1.7 * Origin: (Scouter's Haven) (1:129/186.0) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 162 ADOPTEES Ref: DC100003 Date: 07/31/96 From: MICHAEL KIRST Time: 07:31pm \/To: JULIE MARSHALL (Read 2 times) Subj: Houston Tx area Julie Marshall wrote in a message to All: JM> Looking for the following person. Medical condition emergency: JM> Please run check on SS#, DMV and SSDI (hope not) for Houston Tx JM> SS#: 419-72-3280 JM> Name: Deborah Joy Green Link JM> DOB: 12-27-1949 JM> Date of marriage: October 20, 1977 JM> Husbands name: Raymond Link (estranged) last saw her in 1984 Sisters JM> in Houston: Janice Green Wright JM> Gloria Green Phillips JM> If anyone can locate Deborah, please contact me here or have her JM> call me at 757-362-8135 Thank you Julie Marshall SSDI results: Negative ProCD Home-Phone 1996 West USA: Link, Deborah 4724 20th Cicero, IL 60650 708-863-4240 Link, D J 5347 Crown St Indianapolis, IN 46208 317-255-3674 Link, D J & R H (I don't think this one will be the right one!) 275 W. Juniper Ave Gilbert, AZ 85233 602-892-7915 ProCD Home-Phone 1996 East USA: Link, Deborah 1055 S. Hiawassee Rd Orlando, FL 32835 407-293-5195 Link, Deborah Pine Hill Rd. Warren, NH 03279 603-764-9323 Link, D J 758 Saint Michael St. Mobile, AL 36602 334-433-6034 Link, D J 946 N. Jerico Dr Casselberry, FL 32707 407-695-4460 Link, D J Tower Gdns Stevensville, MD 21666 410-643-2606 I hope one of these is the right one for whomever you are helping!!! Michael Kirst f/k/a Christopher Lee Backus Sysop of The Noble House BBS --- timEd/386 1.10+ * Origin: The Noble House BBS - Kissimmee, FL (407)847-8990 (1:3633/36) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 162 ADOPTEES Ref: DC100004 Date: 07/31/96 From: MARIE ANDERSON Time: 10:28pm \/To: GAYLE LICARI (Read 2 times) Subj: FOUND BIRTH MOTHER > Hi Marie, > Do you use that technique to help locate birthmoms. Our 3rd > party must > remain anonymous for understandable reasons. However we > thought it was > great that the mom was located so quickly. I guess this only > works if > you have the maiden name, and dob. She was found through her > driver's license. I am glad for friend. She has been > through so much in her > young 48 years. She needed answers. Her father passed away > the end > of June. I know it is one chapter closing and another > chapter opening > in her life, but with God's grace and a little understanding > hopefully > all will turn out well for everyone concerned. I just wish > my friend > who only knows her biological father's last name SLOAN/SLOANE > would > have the same luck. She went to DC last week to look through > muster rolls for military men who were stationed in Canada in > 1962/1963 so > hopefully she'll have good results soon. Just wanted to > share w/ you > Marie. Keep up the good work. Gayle W. Licari > --- Maximus 2.01wb > * Origin: Library COM -* Reno, NV USA *- (702) 785-4191 > (1:213/742) Thanks for your message. Have been off the BBS for a while with computer problems. Am back on board! Keep me posted! Marie --- FMail 0.98 * Origin: BIG DEAL BBS, Adoptees in Search! 804-754-0189 VA. (1:264/232) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 162 ADOPTEES Ref: DC100005 Date: 07/31/96 From: MARIE ANDERSON Time: 10:30pm \/To: GAYLE LICARI (Read 2 times) Subj: Husband's Adoption If his birth certificate (amended) were issued from NY, I would gather that his adoption was finalized in NY as well. Have you contacted the NY Registry? Just who are you looking for? I think I've lost track. Help me out! Marie --- FMail 0.98 * Origin: BIG DEAL BBS, Adoptees in Search! 804-754-0189 VA. (1:264/232) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 162 ADOPTEES Ref: DC100006 Date: 07/31/96 From: MARIE ANDERSON Time: 10:31pm \/To: SHANNON MCNICKLE (Read 2 times) Subj: birth indexes I'll try! What state? What information can you supply? You can fax to me at 804-750-2335. Marie --- FMail 0.98 * Origin: BIG DEAL BBS, Adoptees in Search! 804-754-0189 VA. (1:264/232) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 162 ADOPTEES Ref: DC100007 Date: 07/31/96 From: MARIE ANDERSON Time: 10:35pm \/To: ALLEN EVANS (Read 2 times) Subj: Looking For Allen Dexter Evans. Do you have a street #? Let me know? Marie --- FMail 0.98 * Origin: BIG DEAL BBS, Adoptees in Search! 804-754-0189 VA. (1:264/232)