--------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 160 PHILOSOPHY Ref: F5G00327 Date: 04/29/98 From: ANDREW CUMMINS Time: 05:53pm \/To: BOB SEWELL (Read 0 times) Subj: The KKK et al. -=> Quoting Bob Sewell to Fredric Rice <=- FR> As for the KKK, they have always been a Christian organization. They FR> meet inside of Christian cult houses and they all adhear strongly to FR> traditional Christianity. BS> False. Traditional Christianity teaches love for all people BS> equally. The modern Klan doesn't claim to hate blacks. And, the Bible doesn't teach that if someone doesn't love everyone then they aren't a Christian. BS> Anything different from the teaching of Jesus is counterfeit BS> Christianity. Anything taught by the "apostle" Paul that is contrary BS> to the teachings of Jesus is also counterfeit Christianity. Good thing Paul doesn't teach anything contrary to the teachings of Jesus. BS> Counterfeit Christianity. Even the Roman Catholic Church, BS> especially after neo-Pelegianism influences crept into it, was for a BS> long time counterfeit Christianity. How about now? ___ Blue Wave/QWK v2.12 --- QScan/PCB v1.19b / 01-0066 * Origin: FREEDOM SIGNODE Serving Him and You! (1:284/57) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 160 PHILOSOPHY Ref: F5G00328 Date: 04/29/98 From: ANDREW CUMMINS Time: 05:53pm \/To: MR. RIGOR (Read 0 times) Subj: Perfection Revisited -=> Quoting Mr. Rigor to All <=- MR> I'm thinking of filing a class action lawsuit against western MR> religions for all the bullcrap they've been putting in peoples' brains. MR> Do you guys think I have a chance of winning? Yes. But, you must yell "racism" a lot in the court room and it would help if you could demonstrate a severe physical wound, even an admittedly self-inflected wound would work. ___ Blue Wave/QWK v2.12 --- QScan/PCB v1.19b / 01-0066 * Origin: FREEDOM SIGNODE Serving Him and You! (1:284/57) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 160 PHILOSOPHY Ref: F5G00329 Date: 04/29/98 From: ANDREW CUMMINS Time: 05:53pm \/To: FREDRIC RICE (Read 0 times) Subj: By Their Fruits -=> Quoting Fredric Rice to Richard Meic <=- FR> When I first started soliciting information on atheist-based hate FR> groups in America, (something less than a year ago) I was innundated FR> with data on political parties which advocated Totalitarianism, FR> Authoritarianism, Communism, and a plethora of 'isms; including FR> Objectivism (which advocated a racist stance.) Atheists are haters, whether they form political parties or not. But, here are a few of the atheist-based hate groups which aren't political parties: the ACLU, People for the American Way, FAIR (fairness and accuracy in reporting), and the National Center for Science Education. All these groups have one goal -- to channel the hate of atheists into attacks on theism, especially Christianity. Of course, atheists also suffer from all the liberal traits: hypocrisy, dishonesty, etc. You know, like when they accuse overtly conservative and Christian groups of using stealth tactics (look again at the names of those extreme leftist, atheist hate groups). Or, they might try to pass off the definition of "agnostic" for "atheist" as a cowardly tactic to avoid the burden of proof. ___ Blue Wave/QWK v2.12 --- QScan/PCB v1.19b / 01-0066 * Origin: FREEDOM SIGNODE Serving Him and You! (1:284/57) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 160 PHILOSOPHY Ref: F5G00330 Date: 04/29/98 From: ANDREW CUMMINS Time: 05:53pm \/To: WILLIAM ELLIOT (Read 0 times) Subj: Reflections on modernity -=> Quoting William Elliot to Frank Masingill <=- WE> Green house. The polar ice cap is poised to slip into the ocean. So? WE> Warming trends, dry out forests, causing uncontrolled fires to rage WE> unabated for long periods of time, in addition to the usual burning of WE> forests. More warmth means more evaporation from the oceans meaning more rain. Your reasoning is backwards. WE> So green house drying in accelerating release of CO2. More CO2 is a good thing because it will help plants grow better without harming people. WE> Additionally, there is little hope of thwarting the logging companies WE> greed. But, trees are a renewable resource. WE> Overpopulation and decline of world food reserves. The world is already over populated, but we're not in any danger of mass starvation because of it. WE> Here's a prophesy: we will be old and WE> gone when it gets ugly. I sure hope so, pity our youngsters. Here's a prayer: I hope I'm old and gone before morons and NAZIs start to whine that we don't get a direct vote for U.N. President. So, give us a break from you trivial environmental concerns. ___ Blue Wave/QWK v2.12 --- QScan/PCB v1.19b / 01-0066 * Origin: FREEDOM SIGNODE Serving Him and You! (1:284/57) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 160 PHILOSOPHY Ref: F5G00331 Date: 04/29/98 From: ANDREW CUMMINS Time: 05:53pm \/To: FRANK MASINGILL (Read 0 times) Subj: "Existence Exists" -=> Quoting Frank Masingill to Andrew Cummins <=- FM> As to the preferential treatment according to race, I agree with FM> you and our forefathers should NOT have extended such preferential FM> treatment to themselves (some Blacks even held slaves) and long after FM> slavery was over according to Federal law my ancestors continued to FM> practice it and Plessy vs. Ferguson (a Supreme Court decision relating FM> to a case in my own area) permitted that. Just suppose that because of FM> the color of YOUR skin you had been forced to take the back seat in a FM> train or bus. How do you think YOU would feel? Without whites, blacks wouldn't have any seat on any buss. Now, what's the point that you're trying to make? What does discrimination against dead people by dead people have to do with me? How would it make me feel? If you must be racist, the white race built the mataphorical buss and through Affirmative Action, whites are being forced to sit in the back of the buss. Now, if you don't have a problem with that then you have no moral authority to complain about the past, relevant or not. FM> Your argument that "two wrongs don't make a right" is the hallowed FM> argument of the White Citizens Councils and the followers of David Duke FM> in response in MY State to the legislation FORCING equal civil rights FM> for ALL citizens. In my life time, government hasn't been a force of racial equality, but a force of preferential treatment based on race and at the expense of whites. ___ Blue Wave/QWK v2.12 --- QScan/PCB v1.19b / 01-0066 * Origin: FREEDOM SIGNODE Serving Him and You! (1:284/57) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 160 PHILOSOPHY Ref: F5G00332 Date: 04/30/98 From: FRANK MASINGILL Time: 12:46am \/To: ANDREW CUMMINS (Read 0 times) Subj: "Existence Exists" FM> As to the preferential treatment according to race, I agree with you and FM> our forefathers should NOT have extended such preferential treatment to FM> themselves (some Blacks even held slaves) and long after slavery was FM> over according to Federal law my ancestors continued to practice it and FM> Plessy vs. Ferguson (a Supreme Court decision relating to a case in my FM> own area) permitted that. Just suppose that because of the color of FM> YOUR skin you had been forced to take the back seat in a train or bus. FM> How do you think YOU would feel? AC> Without whites, blacks wouldn't have any seat on any buss. Now, Wrongo!!! The black people applied for a franchise to operate their OWN bus line due to the crowded conditions at the time (circa 1950) AND WERE DENIED THAT RIGHT. You'll have to come up with something better. Moreover, legislators in ll southern states (and probably some northern ones too, passed whole bunches of laws specifically aimed at depriving black people of civil rights such as to attend state universities. These inane laws resulted in the silliness that black people were getting admitted through court orders (only just) while the laws backfired on the white people and THEY had to go through the very thing they had tried to enforce on black people. Crude sort of justice in that but it was pathetic as well. FM> Your argument that "two wrongs don't make a right" is the hallowed FM> argument of the White Citizens Councils and the followers of David Duke FM> in response in MY State to the legislation FORCING equal civil rights FM> for ALL citizens. AC> In my life time, government hasn't been a force of racial equality, but AC> a force of preferential treatment based on race and at the expense of AC> whites. On the train from the west coast transporting soldiers back to be mustered out at the end of WW II, black and white soldiers were forcibly segregated immediately that the train crossed the Texas line. That close enough for you?? They ALL fought against the Nazis and the Japanese to assure that you could be born and live. Now, of course if you wish to complain about being born and living then join Jeremiah and Job in wishing their mothers hadn't borne them!! You'll find that in your bible should you care to look it up. Sincerely, Frank --- PPoint 2.05 * Origin: Maybe in 5,000 years - frankmas@juno.com (1:396/45.12) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 160 PHILOSOPHY Ref: F5G00333 Date: 04/30/98 From: WILLIAM ELLIOT Time: 12:08am \/To: HOWIE COOMBE (Read 0 times) Subj: BART SIMPSON, >>> Howie Coombe on BART SIMPSON, HC> is bart simpson a closet nudist,? Not as long as he's wearing that closet. -) --- * Origin: Sunken R'lyeh - Aloha, OR (503) 642-3548 (1:105/337) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 160 PHILOSOPHY Ref: F5G00334 Date: 04/30/98 From: WILLIAM ELLIOT Time: 12:22am \/To: RICHARD MEIC (Read 0 times) Subj: Nullification >>> Richard Meic on Nullification WE> [1] All messages must be about philosophy. RM> Hey, William. The meaning of that single rule can be viewed as RM> anything that is not specifically "about" philosophy itself is off RM> topic. So, one cannot express one's "own" philosophy, nor the RM> philosophy of another, because those are not "about" philosophy. You're so unphilosophical. RM> Personally, it would have been better worded as "All messages must be RM> philosophical". Indeed, that will do nicely. Even for this echo with its mass of onerous rumbles that could be construed as philosophical. Re>> All hail the Lords of Chaos. WE> Who be they, entropy and randomness? RM> Himself? I dunno, that "Lords of Chaos" thingy looks quite juvenile. Self contradictory, as chaos is anarchistic. -) Re>> If You Don't Like It -------------------- WE> Be philosophical about it. RM> Or not. It doesn't matter to Scott remember? Scotty, the engineer aboard the Enterprise? --- * Origin: Sunken R'lyeh - Aloha, OR (503) 642-3548 (1:105/337) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 160 PHILOSOPHY Ref: F5G00335 Date: 04/30/98 From: WILLIAM ELLIOT Time: 12:27am \/To: RICHARD MEIC (Read 0 times) Subj: Mission Statement >>> Richard Meic on Mission Statement RN>> All hail the Lords of Chaos. MR>> You fool, we will destroy your kind soon. Mr. Rigor WE> Is you last name Mortus? -) --- RM> What (or who) is (or was) Mortus? Rigor Mortus -) --- * Origin: Sunken R'lyeh - Aloha, OR (503) 642-3548 (1:105/337)