--------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 159 WRITING Ref: F1Y00007 Date: 01/24/98 From: MICHAEL NELLIS Time: 10:12am \/To: LISA PHILBRICK (Read 2 times) Subj: Suggestions for story Hi, Lisa. LP> MN> That's okay. Even when I proofread carefully I still tend to LP> MN> words out. ;-) LP> Yep. I have a story on a friend's web page and when I looked at it LP> the other day I found some typos. I had thought I caught everthing! You never, ever catch everything. Even after I've gone through a transcribed section and corrected all the typos I'd found, the spelling checker still picks up several typos that I had missed. LP> MN> We just point out little mistakes like those in spelling to have LP> MN> fun with each other, mostly. LP> Hehe. Of course somebody could have defective keyboard. "Wat make you LP> tink ter's someting wong wit tis keyboard?" LOL. Actually, when we really want poke fun at someone, we spell phonetically. Hour messages use alley wind up looking sum thing like this. * SLMR 2.1a * Taglinen ist nodt fur gefingerpoken und Alt-A gestealen --- Maximus/2 3.01 * Origin: Juxtaposition BBS. Lasalle, Quebec, Canada (1:167/133) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 159 WRITING Ref: F1Y00008 Date: 01/24/98 From: MICHAEL NELLIS Time: 10:33am \/To: JERRY BUDINSKI (Read 2 times) Subj: In Space - Need Map! Howdy, Jerry. JB> MN> What's the problem? All space out and nowhere to go? JB> Yes, well, I didn't originally intend to go anywhere - the astronaut JB> in my story didn't - but I got so interested I'm continuing the JB> investigation as sort of a mental exercise - hence, Croswell's book. Have you got the stats on that? It seems that traffic is getting spotty in some regions. I'm certain that I haven't been getting all the mail that people have been posting. JB> BUT - see reply from Craig Loewen - SW with star maps for space JB> travelers! What's the full name of that program? Is it shareware and available on the Internet? If so, I can find and download it through my brother's account. JB> MN> Juxtaposition BBS. Lasalle, Quebec, Canada (1:167/133) JB> I'm surprised to hear from you - must have escaped the ice-storm, eh? Well, I did because I don't live in or around Montreal. :-) We only got snow up here in Quebec City while they were getting freezing rain. It was all part of the same weather system, but Montreal had a temperature inversion stall over the region. They had a layer of warm air trapped between two layers of cold. The upper layer dumped snow, the snow melted in the warm layer, and the rain didn't have time to refreeze into sleet while falling through the lower layer. JB> We had 4 inches of rain (temp was 33F) with serious flooding in low JB> lying areas. We just got more snow overnight. Almost more than we did during the four days of snow, I think. Officially, it was 15 to 30 cm, which is six to twelve inches, and winds causing drifting snow. * SLMR 2.1a * Billy Pilgrim has come unstuck in time. --- Maximus/2 3.01 * Origin: Juxtaposition BBS. Lasalle, Quebec, Canada (1:167/133) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 159 WRITING Ref: F1Y00009 Date: 01/28/98 From: ANNE PAGE Time: 12:17am \/To: VERN FAULKNER (Read 2 times) Subj: Lurking Now how do you know about NDO98 and its predecessor, Geoworks Ensemble 2.0 etc., my favorite (until I get the NDO98 installed next week) area on my PC? Are you lurking in the echo and/or newsgroup for it? Do you have a copy on your PC? --- Platinum Xpress/Win/Wildcat5! v2.0 * Origin: The NeverEnding BBS/Deltona,FL/407-860-7720/bbs.never (1:3618/555) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 159 WRITING Ref: F1Y00010 Date: 01/28/98 From: MICHELLE LEVETT Time: 09:44am \/To: VERN FAULKNER (Read 2 times) Subj: greetings Hi Vern. I'm not sure if you remember me. I was known as Genghis Khan on another echo a few years back. I'm here on Writers' Deadline in Ottawa, doing a career research project on Writing as a Career. I'm in a job training program at the moment. For those of you who don't know me. I'm 26 years old and just getting started in the writing business seriously. I've had a chance to hone my skills in English classes and by E-mail. I laid off on the writing because the topics I have to discuss are far from pleasant. I have cerebral palsy and I use a wheelchair and my family, to put it mildly is a wreck. Writing about it has helped me a great deal, so my first few submissions to publishers are going to be non-fiction. I've decided to look at writing as a career option and I'd like any advice you "oldtimers" have. How and why did you become writers? Who encouraged you in your craft? (I've addressed this letter to one person, but anyone is free to jump in.) I'd like to hear from Canadians if at all possible. My grade 13 writing teacher told me that "Writers starve in Canada" Yet here you are, Vern and here I am. I am not in the game for the money, but literally as a matter of survival. Every time I've written something and sent it off, whether by E-mail or by post, I feel a heck of a lot better. People have told me I am good at writing. I didn't believe it until I started writing letters to the editor. My first one in Jan '97 made Letter of the Day and I recently got two letters published in one month and they sent photographers down both times. I am mentioning this not to boast, but because it is the best thing to happen to me in a long time. I may not walk. I may be in a good deal of pain at the moment. But I can write, something even the doctors said I would never do. This profession may not pay well. But getting published provides a rush that no amount of money can buy. If I get a paycheck that buys a little extra food in the month so much the better. But getting my name in print at all is the name of the game. It means that even someone like me can do something with my life and that educating someone like me is not a waste. My problem is getting started. I've been through the wringer more times than I can count, yet when I sit down to write. I feel I have nothing to write about. How do I turn nothing into something? Thanks Vern, for everything. It's good to see you again. --- Maximus 3.01 * Origin: WRITERS' DEADLINE!! Rockland, Ontario. meikle@storm.ca (1:163/504) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 159 WRITING Ref: F1Y00011 Date: 01/27/98 From: LISA PEPPAN Time: 11:30pm \/To: CHRIS KLING (Read 2 times) Subj: Century Magazine CK> Pulled this info about _Century Magazine_ for you. CK> Century is a bimonthly magazine, publishing stories that combine CK> science fiction, magic realism, fantasy, surrealism, and CK> mainstream elements. [...] CK> Publisher (and Maintainer of this Web Page): Meg Hamel CK> (century@supranet.com) CK> Editor: Robert K. J. Killheffer (robkill@aol.com) CK> Hope that's what you wanted! *THANK* you, Chris! ... I've been chasing dreams for so long... --I.Cara --- PPoint 1.98 * Origin: The Shadowcat's Sandbox, Edmonds, WA (1:343/236.3) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 159 WRITING Ref: F1Y00012 Date: 01/26/98 From: KESTREL T'RAEL Time: 05:17am \/To: RICH VERAA (Read 2 times) Subj: Rights or wrongs? RV> I'm listening to Morning RV> Edition as I write this and they're describing as "the most serious RV> scandal of the Clinton administration" a peccadillo that would have RV> been unnoticed and (rightly) considered Nobody's Business in every RV> administration from Jackson to JFK. And even when it was noticed -- as in JFK's presidency -- it was not determined "newsworthy" and the public at large heard nothing about it. Frankly, I wish it had stayed that way. I'm not a Clinton apologist, but I have serious reservations about the women who are crying about what victims they are. Apparently, none of them know the word "no", and none of them became "victims" until after they found they could get something out of it. Kenneth Star is so obsessed with being able to pin something on Clinton, that he's now not above (for all intents and purposes) putting an ad in the paper asking for volunteers to crucify Clinton on the cross of public opinion. I think he grossly overstepped his bounds. I don't agree with adultery, or lying, cheating, stealing, cover-ups or conspiracies etc etc -- all things Clinton has been accused of. But if I were under the kind of scrutiny he's been under, the kind of vicious "investigation" he's been under for the last 6 years -- I'd be hard pressed to hold back my homicidal impulses. If he's guilty, he's guilty -- but even if he's guilty, I still give him points for having more grace under fire than any normal person would be expected to have. And despite being dragged through the mud from the moment he first started campaigning, he's done a fairly decent job as President. The sad thing is that the only thing ppl will talk about for years to come (baring some other ridiculously fascinating piece of non-news news) is his womanizing ways, and not how he's done the job he was elected for. ... To err is human. To moo bovine. --- PPoint 2.03 * Origin: Kestrel's Aerie (1:128/202.6) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 159 WRITING Ref: F1Y00013 Date: 01/25/98 From: MODERATORS Time: 10:02pm \/To: ALL (Read 2 times) Subj: README.NOW This is the FidoNet International Writing echo conference (area tag WRITING). It is for the discussion of all aspects of the art, craft, and business of writing, both fiction and non-fiction, and is intended for people who are actively (not necessarily professionally) engaged in it. Please refer to the rules (posted here twice a month) before posting in this area, and _don't_ respond to off topic or inflammatory messages. In brief, the following prohibitions apply here. 1. NO POETRY. There are other areas available for poetry. Please use them. Try POETRY_WORKSHOP, MUSE, or BARDROOM. 2. NO POSTING COMPLETE WORKS. This area is for DISCUSSION of the art and craft of writing; it is not a medium of publication. It is allowed to post BRIEF excerpts (prose) on which you have SPECIFIC questions. 3. NO ADVERTISING. No commercial, non-commercial, or personal advertising of BBS's, publications, goods, or services is allowed. To announce new publications and potential markets, please netmail information to the OWEPA (Official Writing Echo Publications Archivist) Karen Rhodes @ 1:112/127 for inclusion in the echo Market Directory, which is posted monthly. Thank you for your cooperation, Rich Veraa, Moderator Shalanna Collins, Co-Moderator Jack Ruttan, Co-Moderator * Origin: Home of the international WRITING echo. (1:135/907) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 159 WRITING Ref: F1Y00014 Date: 01/26/98 From: RICH VERAA Time: 08:11pm \/To: CURTIS JOHNSON (Read 2 times) Subj: Books In a message to Jack Ruttan, Curtis Johnson wrote: CJ> "New Age" is a grab-bag of a term; if this discussion goes on we CJ> may have to define what we understand by it, or make clear if we're CJ> discussing only a particular facet. In some ways it's just a CJ> glitzy euphemism for "the occult" (which itself covers a lot of CJ> territory), but it includes more. "New Age music," for instance, CJ> has little to do with what most think of as New Age or with sf, one CJ> way or the other. I don't think SF has anything to do with it, but all he rest fits in. New Age is the urban yuppie lifestyle of health foods; jogging and aerobics; space music; dabbling in the occult, wicca, and Native American mysticism; and all that. They believe in ufos and most urban legends. I think fantasy and gothics fit the New Age lifestyle, but sf is usually too concrete. They like vague and murky philosophical stuff. Cheers, Rich http://www.netside.net/~rveraa/ * Origin: Birdsoft - North Miami (1:135/907) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 159 WRITING Ref: F1Y00015 Date: 01/28/98 From: CHRIS KLING Time: 04:54pm \/To: CARL THAMES (Read 2 times) Subj: Re: conundrum Hi Carl! CT> The one I did was Henry or something like that. I nuked it from my Yeah, _Oh, Henry!_. CT> it, but don't get your hopes up too much. Well, I'll just hold my breath instead, then. Chris --- Maximus/2 3.01 * Origin: (1:3629/101) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 159 WRITING Ref: F1Y00016 Date: 01/29/98 From: MICHELLE LEVETT Time: 01:03am \/To: ALL (Read 2 times) Subj: why I like writing One reason why I like writing is the hours I can keep. It's 1 am out where I am and I feel as energized as if I had drunk a truckload of coffee. This happens on a regular basis. What a time to wake up, but hey, now that I am awake, I may as well use the time to get some writing in. Ah, the Clinton affair, sordid and steamy to the max. Starring the draft-dodging, non-inhaling pot smoking flower child who rose to the White House. If his accusers are right, he also took the notion of free love too far and three decades too late. Don't get me wrong, I like the guy. But this had to happen sooner or later. His accusers are gonna make a lot of money talking to tabloids, selling book and movie deals. You know, I should send the guy a thank you note and some flowers for giving me something to write about besides my usual topics. ...On second thought, I'd better not or somebody is gonna think I slept with him too! Good night everyone. --- Maximus 3.01 * Origin: WRITERS' DEADLINE!! Rockland, Ontario. meikle@storm.ca (1:163/504)