--------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 158 HOME SCHOOLING Ref: EA500002Date: 06/04/97 From: SARAH NUNEZ Time: 12:38pm \/To: DENIS BERNIER (Read 1 times) Subj: Curriculum where can I get it from .? On 08 May 97, Denis Bernier writes to Sarah Nunez: SN>> There are many companies that produce homeschooling curriculum. SN>> I'm going to a homeschooling curriculum fair this weekend--I'll SN>> see what I can find out about those who are set up to do business SN>> with Canadians. DB> Thank-you for your concern, I would appreciate you asking .! I apologize for taking so long to reply. The homeschool fair I went to was rather overwhelming, to say the least, and I simply forgot what it was I was supposed to find out for someone here on the echo (you). However, hopefully I can do better than that: Here are the addresses of two Canadian homeschooling associations fairly close to you (I don't have info on any in Quebec): Home Educators of New Brunswick 9 Garrison Dr. Renforth E2H 2V1 (506)847-4663 Ontario Christian Home Educators Connection 35 Kings St. Branchton N0B 1L0 (519)653-1684 There's also a magazine called "The Canadian Home Educator", which lists numerous resources from Canadian suppliers. It's published bi-monthly, and costs $25 (Canadian) per year. Some of the articles are in French. The Canadian Home Educator Box 1221 Bow Island, Alberta T0K 0G0 (403)545-6021 Here are a few Canadian resources to get you started: "Grammar from the Ground Up", from: Grammatica Press 8 Ridleau Lane, RR 4 Kemptville, Ontario K0G 1J0 (613)258-0254 "Lickety Split", from: Granny's Games R.R.1, 7530 Richards Trail Duncan, B.C. V9L 1M3 (604)746-1044 Home and Hearth 209 Taradale Dr. N.E. Calgary, Alberta T3J 2N1 (403)293-5450 The Home Works 1760 Groves Rd. R.R.#2 Russell, Ontario K4R 1E5 (613)445-3142 (613)445-0587 FAX "Riverside Spelling"; "Comprehension We Use"; McDougal, Littell "Daily Geography" books and "English" series, from: Houghton, Mifflin/McDougal, Littell, and Co. Publishers 1120 Birchmont Rd. Scarborough, Ontario M1K 5G4 (800)268-2222 (from Canada) NOTE: Their company policy varies from one location to another. In some places, your name and address will be forwarded to the local school district when you place an order for teacher's editions and/or answer keys. Lifetime Canada Carol and Colin Singleton 4109 Pheasant Run Mississauga, Ontario L5L 2C2 (800)669-0724 (orders only from within Canada) (905)828-1684 (information) Pathway readers (Amish viewpoint, but *good* readers even for non-Amish), from: Pathway Publishers R.R.4 Aylmer, Ontario N5H 1R3 Teacher Created Materials, Inc. (address in California, but available in Canada) (800)858-7339 in Canada Many other sources are located in the States but will sell to Canadians. I recommend locating a copy of Cathy Duffy's _Curriculum Guide_ and looking through the list of sources and addresses in the back. ... He who gives you everything you need can take everything you've got. --- GEcho 1.10/gamma * Origin: WordForce Mail-Only System, Republic of Texas (1:130/604) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 158 HOME SCHOOLING Ref: EA500003Date: 06/04/97 From: SARAH NUNEZ Time: 12:25pm \/To: GUY PUTNAM (Read 1 times) Subj: Homeschooling a handicapped child Here's some info I picked up from "The Teaching Home" magazine and from Cathy Duffy's _Curriculum Guide_: National Challenged Homeschoolers (NATHHAN) 5383 Alpine Rd. S.E. Olalla, Wash. 98359 (206)857-4257 NATHANNEWS@AOL.COM Membership: $25/yr, includes lending library, member directory, NATHHAN NEWS quarterly Magazine. They also have the NATHHAN Family Camp and Parent Learning Center. NATHHAN Resource Guide: Ron and Kathy Salars HC 31 51-N-91 Midland, Tex. 79707 Books: Home Schooling Children with Special Needs: Turning Challenges into Opportunities, by Sharon Hensley. Advice and encouragement that "you can do it" from a homeschool mom. Extensive resource section. (Available from NATHHAN, $12.95.) IHELP: Individualized Home Education for Life Preparation, by Rhonda Robinson. A "lesson" planner for the home-school family with special needs. (Available from NATHHAN, $20.) ... British gun control--1776. Aren't you glad some resisted? --- GEcho 1.10/gamma * Origin: WordForce Mail-Only System, Republic of Texas (1:130/604) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 158 HOME SCHOOLING Ref: EAA00000Date: 06/05/97 From: GUY PUTNAM Time: 01:58am \/To: SARAH NUNEZ (Read 1 times) Subj: Homeschooling in Texas -=> Quoting Sarah Nunez to Guy Putnam <=- Hi Sarah! GP> I'm wondering if the state is going to give me any problems about GP> homeschooling because of her handicap. SN> You have as much right to homeschool her as you would if she had a SN> broken leg or if she had nothing at all wrong. I'm glad to hear that, & I assume you mean state law supports that. SN> I know there's a book SN> out on homeschooling handicapped children--I'll have to find my info SN> on it and let you know. I'll definitely have to pick up a copy of that. SN> In spite of Texas' homeschool laws, Texas has one of the highest rates SN> of contacts of homeschoolers by CPS, truancy and other officials. I SN> don't know why that is, but it seems to depend mainly on your SN> locality. That sounds rather dismal . . . . An acquaintance of mine here in Austin is homeschooling his 5 children & says he never had anyone contact him. Guess he's lucky. If they are doing it, you'd think it would be more in Austin then anywhere else. Did you ever have any "contacts?" SN> The most important thing to remember (no matter what state SN> you live in) is that, above all, you must *NEVER* allow *ANYONE* SN> acting in an official capacity to have access to your home or your SN> child without a proper search warrant, even though you have nothing to SN> hide, no matter what authority they claim to have. This goes for SN> every other matter as well, not just homeschooling. Yes, at least I'm well versed on my Constitutionally protected rights. I've heard horror stories about that. Child "services" comes to the door with a deputy & when you open it, they try to push themselves in. If they don't have a warrant, signed by a judge with an oath of affirmation, & listing the places to be searched, things or persons to be seized; & they try to "push" in here, they had better have their medical policy paid up. No "administrative order" or loose talk of some kind of "warrant" is going to cut the muster. I hope you aren't speaking from personal experience! GP> I guess I'm a little tardy in joining a national or state homeschool GP> lobby organization. Let me know if you are aware of any good ones. SN> I strongly recommend joining the Home School Legal Defense Association SN> (HSLDA). Dues are $100 per year, and it serves as a "legal insurance SN> policy" in case you are contacted by anyone in any official capacity SN> regarding your homeschooling. Does theis mean they'll pay all my legal fees? SN> In addition, there is H.O.P.E. for Texas SN> (Home Oriented Private Education), P.O. Box 59876, Dallas, Tex. SN> 75227, (214)358-2221, fax (214)358-2996, E-Mail: hope4tx@gte.net. I'll contact them. SN> I've misplaced my info on HSLDA, but H.O.P.E. can give you contact SN> info, as well as put you in touch with a local homeschool group. They SN> can also get you the info on that book I mentioned above, and give you SN> info on any support groups for parents homeschooling handicapped SN> students. Thanks mucho! What city are you from? --- Blue Wave/386 v2.30 [NR] * Origin: LibertyBBS Austin,Tx[512]462-1776 (1:382/804) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 158 HOME SCHOOLING Ref: EAA00001Date: 06/05/97 From: GUY PUTNAM Time: 02:39am \/To: SARAH NUNEZ (Read 1 times) Subj: Robinson s-t curriculum -=> Quoting Sarah Nunez to Shari Mauricio <=- SN> ... Liberty comes in four boxes--soap, ballot, jury, and ammo! Tag stolen!! ... "We will build a New Order!"-Hitler (& Klinton & Bush & Dole & Gebhart --- Blue Wave/386 v2.30 [NR] * Origin: LibertyBBS Austin,Tx[512]462-1776 (1:382/804) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 158 HOME SCHOOLING Ref: EAB00000Date: 06/06/97 From: SARAH NUNEZ Time: 12:48pm \/To: SHARI MAURICIO (Read 1 times) Subj: Robinson s-t curriculum On 03 Jun 97, Shari Mauricio writes to Sarah Nunez: SM> Which home school magazine did you see the add in? It was in the Spring 1997 issue of Texas Home School Review, put out by the Texas Home School Coalition. SM> I have heard so many good things about Saxon Math that I am going to SM> use it next year. For phonics we used Play N Talk. My two oldest have used Saxon Math and Saxon Phonics (pka Classroom Phonics, by Lorna Simmons) in public school for two years now, and I'm *very* impressed with what they've learned. (I'm probably starting to sound like a broken record.) SM> If we get this curriculum I will supplement the spelling and language SM> arts areas. I've ordered the original McGuffey Readers, which I'll be supplementing with a "real book" approach to language arts. Saxon Phonics (available in homeschool edition in December or January) has spelling incorporated into it, so I'll use that. ... Guns save lives. --- GEcho 1.10/gamma * Origin: WordForce Mail-Only System, Republic of Texas (1:130/604) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 158 HOME SCHOOLING Ref: EAB00001Date: 06/03/97 From: SHARI MAURICIO Time: 07:04pm \/To: SARAH NUNEZ (Read 1 times) Subj: Robinson s-t curriculum Sarah- Which home school magazine did you see the add in? It sounds like an excellent deal. I have heard so many good things about Saxon Math that I am going to use it next year. For phonics we used Play N Talk. My first grade daughter just got her test results back from the Stanford Achievement Test and she scored in the 99th percentile for word study skills, the 98th for word reading, and the 95th for reading comprehension. So I think Play N Talk was good for her. [I had to brag somewhere :) ]. If we get this curriculum I will supplement the spelling and language arts areas. Those are the only areas that seem to be neglected. -Shari --- WILDMAIL!/WC v4.12 * Origin: Tulare Co Office of Educ, Visalia, CA (1:214/33.0) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 158 HOME SCHOOLING Ref: EAB00002Date: 06/04/97 From: APRIL DAWN Time: 10:11am \/To: JASON MCCLAIN (Read 1 times) Subj: Re: riddle -> About the riddle in the bar and the gun and stuff... -> -> The guy going into the bar had the hiccups... He wanted the water to -> rid of -> it... Instead the bartender busted out with a gun and scared the -> bejesus out of -> him... Instant Hiccup cure.. :) Yup! Heres a joke: Why are elephants colored grey? --- WILDMAIL!/WC v4.12 * Origin: Tulare Co Office of Educ, Visalia, CA (1:214/33.0) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 158 HOME SCHOOLING Ref: EAE00000Date: 06/05/97 From: REGINA FINAN Time: 08:25pm \/To: SARAH NUNEZ (Read 1 times) Subj: Re: Now what? -=> Quoting Sarah Nunez to Regina Finan <=- SN> On 25 May 97, Regina Finan writes to Sarah Nunez: SN>> I spoke with two Kindergarten teachers yesterday at my sons' SN>> school, who tell me that my 4.5-year-old isn't ready for SN>> Kindergarten. RF> Age doesn't necessarily have something to do with whether or not a RF> child is ready for kindergarden. What reason do you have, according RF> to the child's maturity or readiness for learning? SN> I agree with the teachers that he's not ready for classroom SN> Kindergarten, but I've concluded that he'll be just fine if I start SN> teaching him a few things at the same time I'm homeschooling his older SN> brother. I may even start him with Saxon math for Kindergarten, and SN> the Saxon phonics when it's available in December or January. He's SN> bright and eager to learn, but he's a bit behind in his verbal skills SN> (mainly hearing vocabulary) and fine motor coordination. We're making SN> a point of reading to him more than we have been (besides my husband SN> and myself, he has two older brothers who can read to him and who SN> could use the practice reading out loud). I've also been collecting SN> story books with pictures that could be used as a springboard for SN> vocabulary-expanding discussions. These are very good ideas, especially the pictures for vocabulary and they can also be used for phonics (beginning sounds). This is what one of my kids did in kindergarten. If you have the time the library usually has video or cassette tapes for phonics. RF> Also the first year of homeschooling may feel a little rough. SN> I homeschooled my oldest for half a year in first grade. If I had SN> been able to obtain a full year's worth of curriculum before we SN> started, I probably would have never stopped homeschooling, but trying SN> to keep one or two steps ahead of my son proved to be too frustrating. SN> Neither did I anticipate the fact that the first year after pulling a SN> child out of a classroom tends to be devoted mainly to unlearning bad SN> habits, attitudes, peer dependency, etc. I'm ready for it this time. SN> I also have my husband's full support this time around, whereas SN> before, he was rather reluctant. Yes support from the other half really helps alot. My husband took the boys to work the other day. He's in construction and math is a big part of it. Also we are studying environments and also how you can change it. It was fun for them and a break for me. My daughter and I got the ground ready for planting flowers and also went shopping using a budget. This was a good break for her because she is really bright and out does her brother so easily. It also gave her a chance to be alone with me. RF> Also homeschooling doesn't have to be just September thru June. SN> Since I'll still have one in public school for another year, we'll SN> start when the public school starts on August 4, and we'll take the SN> same days off. (I *really* want my third-grader to have this SN> particular teacher next year, and I want to ease into the SN> homeschooling gradually rather than taking on all three of them plus I homeschool 6 days a week. Which gives me time to play with if need be. So far in this neighborhood I am getting really good responses not only from the parents but also the kids. SN> 11-month-old at once.) However, I plan on homeschooling four days a SN> week, continuing through next summer to get the full number of days. SN> Fridays will be used for makeup days, field trips, library trips, SN> conquering problematic concepts, or sanity breaks. In August of next SN> year, I'll add the other son into the mix, and we'll have all of them SN> home at least until high school. I can understand that. Yes, we do alot of trips, but I use any day for a make-up day. My Jeremy couldn't sleep one nite and decided to do 4 work book pages. His best work ever. OBTW, I understand the teacher part. Some teachers are so good that you wouldn't want your child to miss the experience. Hope all goes well. Regina ... All I need is a Wave and a board to surf it on. --- * Origin: Nite Lite BBS (1:2410/534) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 158 HOME SCHOOLING Ref: EAI00000Date: 06/12/97 From: LORI LORANGER Time: 11:12am \/To: SARAH NUNEZ (Read 1 times) Subj: Now what? Greetings, Sarah. SN> whether or not to also send him to a private preschool SN> for two or three afternoons a week. If I knew for sure Hope you don't mind me throwing in my two cents. I homeschool 2 daughters (9 and 13 years old) in WAshington State; they've never been registered in public or private school. Seems to me you have other options, depending on exactly what needs you're trying to meet. Why is your son excited about going to school? Would a playgroup, extracurricular type class, or involvement in sports give him what he's looking for? Over the years, my girls have taken classes through community education, the local zoo and science museum, martial arts school, a local puppet theatre, local parks and recreation programs...I'm sure I'm leaving something out, but my point is that we've found lots of opportunities without ever being in school. Some of the programs are one day things; some every day over a week or two; some scheduled once or twice a week over several weeks or months. Of course, the kids (and Moms) in our homeschool group also meet regularly just to get together and play. Oh yes, and I almost left out our local library, which has long been a great source of programs for kids of all ages. Just some food for thought! Whatever you decide to do, enjoy the adventure! -Lori Loranger --- Maximus 3.01 * Origin: Electronic Educator (1:105/114) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 158 HOME SCHOOLING Ref: EAK00000Date: 06/06/97 From: JOHN PILLA Time: 06:37pm \/To: SHARI MAURICIO (Read 1 times) Subj: Robinson s-t curriculum -=> Quoting Shari Mauricio muttering about Robinson s-t curriculum to Sarah Nunez <=- SM> Sarah- SM> For phonics we used Play N Talk. SM> My first grade daughter just got her test results back from the SM> Stanford Achievement Test and she scored in the 99th percentile for SM> word study skills, the 98th for word reading, and the 95th for reading SM> comprehension. So I think Play N Talk was good for her. [I had to brag SM> somewhere :) ]. We also used Play 'N' Talk for all four of our children, fourth is finishing up now. It was a great program. BUT, if we hadn't purchased it used ..... ~~~ {The Jersey Kid} ~{;-) Prv3:5&6 (IX0YE) }<> NKJV ~ JayDPiii@Juno.com in Charlotte, N.C. Heaven or Hell - Your hoice! Home Schooling 4 since 1992, -- SONLIGHT Curriculum Col 3v23 "And whatever you do, do it heartily, as to the Lord and not to n." ... "A baby is God's opinion that the world should go on." Carl Sandburg --- GEcho 1.11+ * Origin: The Transporter Room: 16 lines SLIP/Telnet/FTP 704/567-9513 (1:379/1)