--------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 158 HOME SCHOOLING Ref: E3N00003Date: 03/18/97 From: MANFRED EHRLICH Time: 07:36pm \/To: ALINDA HARRISON (Read 1 times) Subj: How goes it? -> RE: How goes it? -> BY: Manfred Ehrlich to Alinda Harrison on Sun Mar 16 1997 08:52:54 -> -> > Katie's Cyber school is for a one-year sign up. -> -> Cyber school? -> -> ...peace... -> Alinda Sue... -> -> --- Skyhawk's Nightmare -> * Origin: (1:138/293) Cyber School is a place where my wife and daughter goes so that they have contact with other kids and where Katie can take some classes with other kids. Right now she is taking German. They also provide support, lend books, and help with the state guide lines for home school education. Fred --- WILDMAIL!/WC v4.12 * Origin: The Tecnician's Corner BBS (1:343/326.0) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 158 HOME SCHOOLING Ref: E3P00000Date: 03/17/97 From: REGINA FINAN Time: 01:30pm \/To: CHARITY AYUSO-ONORE (Read 1 times) Subj: Re: posts -=> Quoting Charity Ayuso-Onore to Regina Finan <=- -=> Quoting Regina Finan to Charity Ayuso-onore <=- -=> Quoting Charity Ayuso-Onore to Manfred Ehrlich <=- CA> Currently I work with adults who want to homeschool. I also work with CA> parents with children with special needs who want to homeschool. I CA> also write thematic curriculum. RF> Do you charge if you write the curriculum? Or help people who have RF> children with special needs? Curious, as I have two children one that RF> is ADD and one ADHD. I don't have too many problems teaching them, RF> but I would like a few hints with these kids to try and make it easier RF> for them. RF> Regina RF> ! Origin: Nite Lite BBS (1:2410/534) CA> I do charge for curriculum development but I do not charge for CA> consultation. This echo is a way of extending my services for free. CA> If I can answer _any_ of your questions, please feel free to call on CA> me. :) CA> You may want to check out my website at: home.inreach.com/drciao I'll do that when I get the chance. CA> My site is in the process of being expanded. There are some changes CA> being made to the site and our new server is about to go online. :) I am in the process of looking at providers to open a Web site of my own. Regina ... "Yield to temptation, it may not pass your way again." - L. Long --- * Origin: Nite Lite BBS (1:2410/534) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 158 HOME SCHOOLING Ref: E3P00001Date: 03/17/97 From: REGINA FINAN Time: 01:38pm \/To: CHARITY AYUSO-ONORE (Read 1 times) Subj: Re: Rummy -=> Quoting Charity Ayuso-Onore to Regina Finan <=- -=> Quoting Regina Finan to Charity Ayuso-onore <=- -=> Quoting Charity Ayuso-Onore to Regina Finan <=- CA> CA> That is great! With you as their mentor and teacher they will go far. CA> Keep the faith and keep up the good work. Feel free to write me CA> regarding any questions you may have. I'd be happy to help. :) CA> Actually they have already. They are developing the sense of being able to tell the difference between kids. That is which ones are up to their standards in playing with. They have matured a great deal this past school year. This is one of the things I have been waiting for. When my kids went to public school friends were so darn important. It was hard to teach them morals over what their friends were teaching. Now family has overidden this. Regina ... A feature is a bug with seniority. --- * Origin: Nite Lite BBS (1:2410/534) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 158 HOME SCHOOLING Ref: E3P00002Date: 03/17/97 From: REGINA FINAN Time: 01:50pm \/To: CHARITY AYUSO-ONORE (Read 1 times) Subj: Re: Hiya! -=> Quoting Charity Ayuso-Onore to Regina Finan <=- -=> Quoting Regina Finan to Charity Ayuso-onore <=- CA> Great! I'm sure you and your children will do well. You sound like CA> you are committed to this and that is the most important facet of CA> homeschooling. This is exactly what I tell other people when we talk about homeschooling. You must be dedicated and comitted to follow through. With Jeremy I hold pretty true to getting him together in the morning. If he hems and haws (which is what happens if he lets his ADHD control the morning start) I mark him as absent and then he has to make it up. He is learning this is hard to do because it takes away from his play time. The rule is for all of them, but it is only him I have to use it on. I took this into account when I sent up the rules. I knew that I could not have a seperate set of rules just for him or he would use the "your picking on me" thing so I developed it for everyone. CA> That was the same story for my 23 yr old. She was labeled as slow. CA> She was not slow; she just could not hand in a sloppy paper. During CA> tests and hand in compostions if she had to erase an error she would CA> erase until there was nothing visible etc. I used this as a tool for CA> her and helped her see that she was an individual who paid attention to CA> detail. When she was in pub school, there was no problem. They were a little slow for her and there were not many challenges. In homeschool there are alot more challenges put to her. She has matured more than I expected this past school season. Cooking and cleaning as well as taking care of herself (hair, brushing teeth and so forth). She has labeled most kids in the neighborhood as weird. Mainly because she is not a typical 9 year old anymore. She is now stuck between that age and a teenager. She wants her friends to be older than her because she can deal with their level of maturity better than a typical 9 year old. CA> I miss those times with my kids when they were a younger. :) It's kinda funny. When I had my 12 year old I was really into parenting. When I had the twins, I was forced to go to work and I just couldn't deal very well with it. When I quit I took the two years they were going to school and did nothing. It took that long for me to get back into sink. Finacially we have had it rough. Alot of people have told me to go back to work and put the kids back in pub schools. I refused and of course they don't understand. We moved into a low income area just to get a foot on the ground financially. Things are going better now with that and it won't be too long and I will be looking into more educational aids (that cost money). I even throw a few homeschooling things to my grandaughter. Games on the computer and cutting a pasting (she is almost 4). Her father has been teaching her to write letters too. Its becoming a thing around here to use whatever we can to teach our kids something and I'm glad it has spilt over to my older daughter now. The kids who do come over go nuts, because I have maps, erasure boards and other things. They usually end up playing school too. Which is great as they do learn from each other. CA> I'll be happy to share any knowledge I have learned in these past CA> years. Feel free to write to me anytime. I may have a question or two when time goes on, but at the moment things are doing okay. CA> Hang in there Regina. It gets easier as they get older. :) Well it would be nice to get a little easier, but I expect it not to be too soon. Thanks for the talk. Regina ... All I need is a Wave and a board to surf it on. --- * Origin: Nite Lite BBS (1:2410/534) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 158 HOME SCHOOLING Ref: E3P00003Date: 03/17/97 From: REGINA FINAN Time: 02:19pm \/To: BRUCE ROESER (Read 1 times) Subj: Re: Rummy -=> Quoting Bruce Roeser to Regina Finan <=- -=> Quoting Regina Finan to Bruce Roeser <=- RF> This is my first year of homeschooling and although I have made my RF> own curriculum I still at times get caught up into what conventional RF> teaching and curriculums are. I'm learning too. I know now that as RF> long as it is a learning experience it is school. Thanks. BR> My wife, Cheryl, has been dealing with that same struggle. She's BR> beginning to loosen up on it now, but was very much trying to craft BR> her schooling around a traditional approach. We're to the point now BR> where we realize that just about *any* learning experience can be BR> written down as school time. When I take my daughters out for BR> tennis that counts as Phys Ed., etc. It's all very legal, BR> particularly when you keep some kind of portfolio of the work to BR> demonstrate the learning. Here in Florida, all that's really BR> required is periodic testing and evaluation to "ensure that the BR> student is performing at a level 'commensurate with their BR> abilities'". Now ain't that statement a bunch of double-talk? Of course, but that is the way the pub school system works. BR> Fortunately, Cheryl's father is a child-psychologist and is BR> qualified (and licensed) to evaluate our daughter's progress; so we BR> can trust that it will be a good evaluation. (Dad is *very* serious BR> about being accurate, even though with family). Well he should be. It is for the interest in everyone around that any truth be known. It also gives you the chance to see if a change in things need to be made before too long. Regina ... All I need is a Wave and a board to surf it on. --- * Origin: Nite Lite BBS (1:2410/534) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 158 HOME SCHOOLING Ref: E3P00004Date: 03/19/97 From: ALINDA HARRISON Time: 01:30pm \/To: MANFRED EHRLICH (Read 1 times) Subj: How goes it? RE: How goes it? BY: Manfred Ehrlich to Alinda Harrison on Tue Mar 18 1997 19:36:49 > Cyber School is a place where my wife and daughter goes so that they > have contact with other kids and where Katie can take some classes with > other kids. Right now she is taking German. They also provide support, > lend books, and help with the state guide lines for home school > education. Ah, like the homeschool office here in Tacoma :) ...peace... Alinda Sue... --- Skyhawk's Nightmare * Origin: (1:138/293) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 158 HOME SCHOOLING Ref: E3P00005Date: 03/17/97 From: REGINA FINAN Time: 10:18pm \/To: MIKE MARTIN (Read 1 times) Subj: Re: Rummy -=> Quoting Mike Martin to Regina Finan <=- MM> Howdy Regina: MM> Regina Finan wrote in a message to Mike Martin: RF> Not quite sure if it is the ADD or other learning problem. MM> Please keep in mind, learning is not a problem, especially from what MM> you told me. However, we each have our own best learning styles. MM> Finding what works for Jonathan is your goal. Jonathon is LD. He is 2 years behind is age level in reading, social studies. It is a comprehensive problem which is why all of our studies are based on comprehending what is read. Our English, spelling, ss, science or anything is based on him understanding what is read. We do alot of problem solving in just about everything. I suspect from his testing at a learning hospital that, that still could be wrong. His anxiety to a school environment made it all worse. Therefore, a really good accurate testing could not be performed. In a homeschooling environment he knows if he doesn't get something we slow down. He has the time to think more learly and of course, never ever gets the headaches, stomaches, and the throwing p. Plus he is involved in what to learn. Maybe I will get him tested again later on, I don't know, but he is progressing nicely and I find his IQ (I am basing this on his understanding, knowledge and intellectual answers) is higher than in the tests. I was informed it could be way off due to all the stress he was under. Learning doesn't seem to be a real problem with him, but I keep my eyes open and of course, as he was younger he had alot of help from the other school district. Jonathon's achievement and IQ in 1st grade (2nd time around) was only 6 months behind his real age level. He was getting straight A's. I know it was because of that teacher and a caring school. Had we stayed in that school district Jonathon would have caught up to his age level. When we left the district he fell apart. Now that I am homeschooling he is back on track. Not completely yet, but I know he will be. RF> Math is his very strong point. The only RF> other problem he has in Math is explaining how to get an RF> answer or where it came from. He can quickly do the RF> problems mentally better than doing it on paper. RF> So maybe this is a visual problem. Taking a graph and a math RF> problem he looks at it and comes up with the answer in 2 RF> sec. then you ask him how he got the answer and his face RF> goes blank. His reply is always "I dunno I just know it". RF> Its kinda scary, cause he knows alot of tricks in Math and RF> it is so natural that he just can't remember which ones he RF> used (if any). MM> It may not be all that unusual for a gifted child to be able to MM> explain how he derived an answer that appears obvious to him. MM> Expressive language is a highly refined art that many people do not MM> achieve. Yes, I am thinking along this line also. I believe he may be gifted in Math and Science. He loves these to death. MM> Our schools today place a very high priority (and rightfully so) on MM> language skills. You've not said much about Jonathan's reading MM> abilities, put you have said enough that I sense an expressive MM> language problem. Focus on Jonathan's strengths. If math is his MM> strength, then he is quite probably a very analytical concrete MM> thinker. If this is so, he may not comprehend stories. Try to have MM> him write math stories, such as word problems initially. Later, you MM> can grow into charts and graphs. MM> Best of luck to you! That is definetly an idea. You are right. He has difficulty with this. When he reads sometimes I have to stop him to read it again. Running words together not stopping at punctuations. Writing stories are difficult for him to put in any real order. We have trouble also in outlining as he just can't find what to pick out in a paragraph (like main ideas). Putting things together or breaking it apart. Directions also confuse him. I am still teaching him to do them one step at a time. Like underline a subject with one line, underline a verb with two, and circle the predicate. He will do the first, maybe the last, maybe two of them. This is part of an ADD problem. So it is going to take longer for him to get a grip on this one. We can work on sentences and do all subjects or all verbs and their is no problem. He is pretty good at it. As soon as the directions ask him to do both in the same sentence, he's in trouble. I'm not quite sure how to handle this one. If I have him look for the subject then for the verb he still gets confused. If I do it with him one step at a time he is alright. If I let him go on to the other sentences alone he is not. Regina ... All I need is a Wave and a board to surf it on. --- * Origin: Nite Lite BBS (1:2410/534) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 158 HOME SCHOOLING Ref: E3P00006Date: 03/17/97 From: REGINA FINAN Time: 10:55pm \/To: DAVEEN EHRLICH (Read 1 times) Subj: Re: posts -=> Quoting Daveen Ehrlich to Regina Finan <=- DE> I started off with the comprehensive curriculum also. Now I have DE> added several other things to it to make a more involved school day. I use it just as a base study. Our finances will be straightened out very very soon and I intend on investing on other programs I liked, but could not afford. DE> I think I am going to keep my son home. It seems to work better DE> for him to not have to have as many changes in his day. He has DE> problems dealing with transition. I'm kinda glad. I don't like to push homeschooling on people (you never know what their circumstance may be or what they can handle) but I prefer it. DE> We attend a homeschool resource center which keeps track of the DE> kids and pays for curriculum. It is through a nearby school district DE> and has really helped with keeping us on task. We have to record 20 DE> hours per week of school work and turn in time sheets. We meet with a DE> teacher every 45 days to go over the children's learning plans and DE> modify them when needed. We also keep some completed assignments in a DE> portfolio kept at the school. They have a computer lab there where the DE> kids can use internet and lots of software. It's a really good program DE> for us. I have found it very helpful. I can talk to the teachers there DE> any time I need some assistance and they help out. Katie has even made DE> her own web page with a report she did on Mozart. She will continue to DE> add to the page as she finishes reports on other composers and the DE> countries they were born in. We have been enjoying unit studies right DE> now and it has been working well for us. I never thought I could do a DE> unit study, but I find it very simple and exciting. I wouldn't mind more support from a district like this, but then again I hate people butting in so I may find this a little too restrictive. Regina ... A feature is a bug with seniority. --- * Origin: Nite Lite BBS (1:2410/534) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 158 HOME SCHOOLING Ref: E3P00007Date: 03/17/97 From: REGINA FINAN Time: 11:07pm \/To: CHERYL NEITZ (Read 1 times) Subj: Re: How goes it? -=> Quoting CHERYL NEITZ to MANFRED EHRLICH <=- -> -> I am interested in what others have to face when it comes to -> -> homeschooling in their state. I have been told that PA has one of -> -> best laws protecting our rights. What do others face? -> -> -> -> Here, in WA state, you have to have a degree in something (they -> pretty much don't care) and pass an extended learning class to be -> certified in Home Schooling. Our biggest obstacle was my parents ... -> they've stop bugging me when they see my daughter who is six able to -> read 3rd grade material and is in the second (soon to be third) -> grade. -> Fred ->In PA you have to have a highschool diploma. We have a home evaluater CN> that will evaluate my daughter at the end of the year. I keep a CN> porfolio of mounthy work that she will look at the we turn her CN> evaluation and portfolio in to our area school so they can see that my CN> daughter did recieve an education. Is that how it goes in all states? Here in Michigan they don't ask you too. But we do just in case a neighbor or someone complains that your kids are home and they decide to send an educational officer to the door. You will then need to prove you do homeschool and what they are learning. Regina ... A feature is a bug with seniority. --- * Origin: Nite Lite BBS (1:2410/534) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 158 HOME SCHOOLING Ref: E3P00008Date: 03/19/97 From: NANCY GRAY Time: 04:48pm \/To: CHERYL NEITZ (Read 1 times) Subj: Home Schooling CN>I am a mother of a 15 year old and am trying Homeschooling for the first CN>year. It is very difficult. I would suggest to any one starting to start CN>at an early age before bad patterns of study have set in. How do others CN>deal with the change from being parent to being teacher? Is there CN>something I can say besides "I am the teacher and if you were in public CN>school you could not do that so you can't here." I homeschool a 15 year old, however we started 5 years ago. Just what sort of difficulties are you having. I stress to my daughter that it is her education and HER future. I let her have some input as to what she would like to study, along with the required subjects. We also try to relax and enjoy the experience. We go on field trips, or maybe pack a lunch and go to the park and do school, or do history over breakfast at McDonalds. You might drop the " I am the teacher" and replace it with "I am your mother and I am interested in your getting the best education possible" Nancy --- SLMR 2.0 All wiyht. Rho sritched mg kegtops awound? * Origin: K_Line (Christian BBS) Davie, FL (954) 792-8355 (1:369/158)