--------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 158 HOME SCHOOLING Ref: E3L00004Date: 03/14/97 From: CHERYL NEITZ Time: 08:03pm \/To: PETE SNIDAL (Read 1 times) Subj: Origin Lines -> Hi, All! -> Am I alone in being frustrated at wondering what part of the country -> a posting is coming from because of incomplete origin lines. (The -> Origin Line is the one that the bbs automatically puts at the bottom -> of every posting, like the one at the bottom of this one.) -> I think it makes it a lot more interesting to know where stuff is -> coming from, don't you? -> -> best,| ps -> -> EG: -> -> --- timEd-B10 -> * Origin: Kettle Valley Forum BBS - Grand Forks BC CANADA Hi there Canada, I never thought to look at that to find out where they were from, so I guess it never frustrated me:-) I just ask. So how is homeschooling in Canada? Peace, Cheryl --- Platinum Xpress/Wildcat! v1.1 * Origin: Cantro Connection 717-673-8444 (1:268/446) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 158 HOME SCHOOLING Ref: E3L00005Date: 03/15/97 From: MIKE MARTIN Time: 07:59pm \/To: REGINA FINAN (Read 1 times) Subj: Re: Rummy Howdy Regina: Regina Finan wrote in a message to Mike Martin: RF> Not quite sure if it is the ADD or other learning problem. Please keep in mind, learning is not a problem, especially from what you told me. However, we each have our own best learning styles. Finding what works for Jonathan is your goal. RF> Math is his very strong point. The only RF> other problem he has in Math is explaining how to get an RF> answer or where it came from. He can quickly do the RF> problems mentally better than doing it on paper. RF> So maybe this is a visual problem. Taking a graph and a math RF> problem he looks at it and comes up with the answer in 2 RF> sec. then you ask him how he got the answer and his face RF> goes blank. His reply is always "I dunno I just know it". RF> Its kinda scary, cause he knows alot of tricks in Math and RF> it is so natural that he just can't remember which ones he RF> used (if any). It may not be all that unusual for a gifted child to be able to explain how he derived an answer that appears obvious to him. Expressive language is a highly refined art that many people do not achieve. RF> I am assuming also that because his RF> learning problems with explaining things are a probable RF> cause to it that will change as he practices his writing RF> (stories and paragraph's as well as speeches). Because he RF> has a problem with this he has a oral speech class. RF> Telling stories or writing them down is difficult because RF> he must put them in order of events. Extremely difficult RF> for alot of ADD'ers. Our schools today place a very high priority (and rightfully so) on language skills. You've not said much about Jonathan's reading abilities, put you have said enough that I sense an expressive language problem. Focus on Jonathan's strengths. If math is his strength, then he is quite probably a very analytical concrete thinker. If this is so, he may not comprehend stories. Try to have him write math stories, such as word problems initially. Later, you can grow into charts and graphs. Best of luck to you! /\ /^v^\ | /^v^\ \/ --- timEd-B9 * Origin: MCM Comm <512-442-8458> (1:382/112) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 158 HOME SCHOOLING Ref: E3L00006Date: 03/16/97 From: MANFRED EHRLICH Time: 08:52am \/To: ALINDA HARRISON (Read 1 times) Subj: How goes it? -> RE: How goes it? -> BY: Manfred Ehrlich to Alinda Harrison on Fri Mar 14 1997 21:26:47 -> -> > Actually its ninety-hours ... two year degree. -> -> Maybe they are figuring full time vs part time. Dunno. I do know the -> form I -> signed to "enroll" my kids only asked for one year :) -> -> ...peace... -> Alinda Sue... -> --- Skyhawk's Nightmare -> * Origin: (1:138/293) I think we have a confusion here ... my wife has a two year degree (which they classify as needing 90 hours of instruction) but took here a little longer due to the birth of first child. Once she had that degree, she took a single-quarter class on certification on instruction of Home Schooling. Katie's Cyber school is for a one-year sign up. Fred --- WILDMAIL!/WC v4.12 * Origin: The Tecnician's Corner BBS (1:343/326.0) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 158 HOME SCHOOLING Ref: E3L00007Date: 03/16/97 From: MANFRED EHRLICH Time: 06:24pm \/To: CHERYL NEITZ (Read 1 times) Subj: How goes it? -> -> -> I am interested in what others have to face when it comes to -> -> -> homeschooling in their state. I have been told that PA has one -> -> -> best laws protecting our rights. What do others face? -> -> -> -> -> -> -> Here, in WA state, you have to have a degree in something (they -> -> pretty much don't care) and pass an extended learning class to be -> -> certified in Home Schooling. Our biggest obstacle was my parents . -> -> they've stop bugging me when they see my daughter who is six able -> -> read 3rd grade material and is in the second (soon to be third) -> -> grade. -> -> Fred -> ->In PA you have to have a highschool diploma. We have a home evaluat -> that will evaluate my daughter at the end of the year. I keep a -> porfolio of mounthy work that she will look at the we turn her -> evaluation and portfolio in to our area school so they can see that m -> daughter did recieve an education. Is that how it goes in all states? -> --- Platinum Xpress/Wildcat! v1.1 -> * Origin: Cantro Connection 717-673-8444 (1:268/446) I don't know really for sure. In the program that Katie is involved in, we keep her work in a portfolio and meet with a representative the cyberschool every forty-five days to show what she has accomplished. Fred --- WILDMAIL!/WC v4.12 * Origin: The Tecnician's Corner BBS (1:343/326.0) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 158 HOME SCHOOLING Ref: E3L00008Date: 03/16/97 From: DAVEEN EHRLICH Time: 06:41pm \/To: REGINA FINAN (Read 1 times) Subj: Re: posts -> I use a comprehensive workbook as a guide. It has all the things in -> for their grade level, English, Spelling and so forth. I deviate fro -> it according to the kids. A voice spelling program on the computer -> supplements the spelling words. We are studying environmental -> science so I also use the workbook, do field trips, and also use Sim -> City for a better understanding of it. That is a computer game -> where they have to build a city. I have library days and other -> computer programs too. When I run into a problem either with their -> understanding or interest thats when I either slow down and -> investigate a better way to handle it or sometimes it must be put -> aside for a few weeks until something else is taught first for their -> understanding. I go with my children's speed. Whatever it takes, -> however long. I also plan doing it through the summer. I have -> used a computer phonics programs to help remind them of sounds and -> so forth. I started off with the comprehensive curriculum also. Now I have added several other things to it to make a more involved school day. ->It sounds to me you are already doing a fine job. Things such as -> recognizing -> his name would be also good. Visual programs work very well for -> this age. Games of sorts, computers or if he can do it, go fish card -> game is good also. You may try going through the summer too just to -> keep these things in his memory and to speed up the process of -> learning for him. -> -> Do what is comfortable for you. You didn't say what type of difficul -> he has? Are they learning or physical problems? If you really just -> him home then I suggest you do it. Regardless of whether you like -> the teacher or not. This is your child and I am sure you want him -> to reach potential. What you are doing already is similiar to -> Kindergarden anyway. Keep at it and he will probably be past it by -> Septemember. Most of us homeschool right through the summer. It -> may not be as intense during this time, but it gives them a chance -> not to forget. And helps get them ahead of everyone else. I think I am going to keep my son home. It seems to work better for him to not have to have as many changes in his day. He has problems dealing with transition. -> DE> Luckily they do allow younger kids to tag along. If they didn't -> then DE> it wouldn't be a good program because homeschool families -> almost always DE> have little ones tagging along. Although I have -> run into several -> DE> places that wouldn't allow younger kids so we couldn't go there. -> -> Daveen, what do you mean by this? Do you belong to a program that -> homeschools out of the home or do you mean the field trips? -> Regina We attend a homeschool resource center which keeps track of the kids and pays for curriculum. It is through a nearby school district and has really helped with keeping us on task. We have to record 20 hours per week of school work and turn in time sheets. We meet with a teacher every 45 days to go over the children's learning plans and modify them when needed. We also keep some completed assignments in a portfolio kept at the school. They have a computer lab there where the kids can use internet and lots of software. It's a really good program for us. I have found it very helpful. I can talk to the teachers there any time I need some assistance and they help out. Katie has even made her own web page with a report she did on Mozart. She will continue to add to the page as she finishes reports on other composers and the countries they were born in. We have been enjoying unit studies right now and it has been working well for us. I never thought I could do a unit study, but I find it very simple and exciting. Daveen --- WILDMAIL!/WC v4.12 * Origin: The Tecnician's Corner BBS (1:343/326.0) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 158 HOME SCHOOLING Ref: E3L00009Date: 03/16/97 From: RUTH BEECHICK Time: 01:46pm \/To: CHARITY AYUSO-ONORE (Read 1 times) Subj: Regina F This message is to Regina Finan, but I couldn't pull up any direct message from you, Regina. Only quotes in Charity's messages. I'm an eavesdropper on this echo. You say your ADD son will go on meds this summer, and I just wanted to input some information for you to consider. If the med is Ritalin, a better alternative may be phenytoin (PHT). For more information see my article on this in "Homeschooling Today" May/June 1994. This is much safer and probably cheaper because the patent has run out. Ritalin is pushed upon the doctors by the drug companies, and nobody is telling them about PHT. Many mainstream doctors don't take kindly to suggestions that are not mainstream. But if you are concerned about Ritalin, you may wish to look into this alternative. --- FLAME v1.1 * Origin: Sound Doctrine BBS (303) 680-7209 - Aurora, CO, USA (1:104/514) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 158 HOME SCHOOLING Ref: E3L00010Date: 03/17/97 From: DONNA RANSDELL Time: 07:35am \/To: CHERYL NEITZ (Read 1 times) Subj: posts > What state do you homeschool in. At the moment, I don't. Frankly, I'm a wannabe. However, I've been a classroom teacher for 9 years full-time, and 3 years(plus) of substitute teaching, so I've learned something here and there (grin) about learning and how kids learn. > PA has requirements to fulfill (my daughter is in 9th grade) > and I would suspect it would take a lot of planning to use this > concept and meet requirements at the same time. Yes it would, particularly in the upper grades like that. My frame of reference is mostly for elementary and middle school, where requirements aren't quite so stringent. -donna --- GEcho 1.00 * Origin: The Education Station, Poway, CA - Mail Only (1:202/1411) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 158 HOME SCHOOLING Ref: E3N00000Date: 03/15/97 From: REGINA FINAN Time: 08:19pm \/To: RUTH LEBLANC (Read 1 times) Subj: Re: Rummy -=> Quoting Ruth Leblanc to Regina Finan <=- RF>This may sound odd, but I thought I would post this. I have one child ho >has trouble concentrating and gets mixed up when needed to do several hings >after D. So I discovered something that is helping him. We play card game >called Rummy. With this game he is forced to concentrate, put cards in RL> ADHD kids, and those with LD's, often find it hard to do this. It's RL> one reason that we were always told in Teacher's College to write RL> instructions down instead of just verbally giving them - this of RL> course is true of the rest of the class too..having trouble following RL> directions/instructions especially those that are quite involved. Hello Ruth, Good to hear from you again. RL> Cards games are a great learning tool. I have been using them for RL> years. There are many books you can buy that have good games in them. RL> This summer I did a workshop on using card games and dice in the RL> classroom. I'm not sure if you can get the books in the U.S. they are RL> called Box Cars and One Eyed Jacks and there are several volumes. You RL> can learn about Place Value, Decimals, and even money with them. :) RL> In fact most games have lots of learning value. My favourites are RL> Snakes and Ladders, Checkers, and Chess. There are of course other more RL> expensive games like Monopoly that are also valuable to use. :) RL> By the Way, I have one of the books mentioned above suitable for RL> primary level children. Yeppers, we are involved in alot of them now. Just bought a new deck of cards too. RL> Concentration card games are used extensively from kindergarten up. I RL> know several teachers who have several sets for each seasonal unit. RL> :) RL> Glad you have found something that has worked for your son. RL> Ruth He's also now involved in playing hearts over the network with his dad. The only thing I don't like about it is he can't organize the cards himself. But it requires alot of thinking and is much more involved than Rummy, I would say it is pretty good for decisions (which is is very bad at making). BTW, thank for the info, it helps to know that teachers are using this method. Regina ... All I need is a Wave and a board to surf it on. --- * Origin: Nite Lite BBS (1:2410/534) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 158 HOME SCHOOLING Ref: E3N00001Date: 03/17/97 From: ALINDA HARRISON Time: 08:35am \/To: MANFRED EHRLICH (Read 1 times) Subj: How goes it? RE: How goes it? BY: Manfred Ehrlich to Alinda Harrison on Sun Mar 16 1997 08:52:54 > Katie's Cyber school is for a one-year sign up. Cyber school? ...peace... Alinda Sue... --- Skyhawk's Nightmare * Origin: (1:138/293) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 158 HOME SCHOOLING Ref: E3N00002Date: 03/18/97 From: LORI LORANGER Time: 03:59pm \/To: CHERYL NEITZ (Read 1 times) Subj: Re: Home Schooling Hi Cheryl. I believe you were asking about state requirements for homeschooling. In WAshington, a parent must either: have 45 college credits, take a "qualifying" course, have permission from their local school superintendent, or be supervised by a certified teacher - that's one of the things listed, not all of them- to be legal. Also legally required: annual assessment- this can be test, or interview and portfolio review. Of course, no one sees the results except the tester or interviewer and the parent. These records are to be kept and forwarded to any school the child later enters, if any. The rules apply to kids between the ages of 8 and 18. Washington's really pretty homeschooling friendly, and many homeschoolers have relationships with their local schools where they take a class or classes part time along with being homeschooled. I have two daughters, 9 and 12 1/2, who've never been registered in regular school. They're pretty independent and self motivated, doing a lot of learning on their own without me really having to do very much. My Dad has recently taken on the role of math teacher, and they're all having a lot of fun with that. Enjoy! -LL --- Maximus 2.01wb * Origin: Electronic Educator (1:105/114)