--------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 108 STAR TREK Ref: F2C00001 Date: 02/07/98 From: ROGIER VAN EETEN Time: 08:14pm \/To: MARK ELLIS (Read 0 times) Subj: Tech specs on a Borg Cube Op 07 Feb 98 om 02:48:24 schreef Mark Ellis heel gelukkig aan Donovan Mclean: ME>DM>I can look though a couple of ME>DM> books of mine and see if there is anything else if you would like. ME>DM> T.T.Y.L! ME> ME>Actually if you wouldnt mind lookin i would be interested in more ME>information on the Borg Cube. What? You want to make your own Cube? :-) --- Dutchie V3.03 * Origin: Veni, Vedi, Velcro! (2:500/3.9) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 108 STAR TREK Ref: F2C00002 Date: 02/06/98 From: BILL NICHOLS Time: 10:50pm \/To: DONOVAN MCLEAN (Read 0 times) Subj: Trivia DM> >> Do you what the year and kind of Champain was used in Star Trek: DM> > No, I don't remember. :( And I don't have a video of DM> Oops. I didn't know that you didn't have a copy of Generations. The year DM>of it was 2265 and the name is Don Paryon. T.T.Y.L!! Well, pretty close, anyhoo. The champagne'd be named Dom Perignon. }:) --- JMail-H 2.80d * Origin: 221B Baker St * Ft Walton Beach FL * 904-862-8643 (1:366/221) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 108 STAR TREK Ref: F2C00003 Date: 02/06/98 From: BILL NICHOLS Time: 10:51pm \/To: PAUL ANDINACH (Read 0 times) Subj: Re: Old & New Klingons PA> RN>> Im sorry but I consider this discussion pretty stupid. "genetic PA> RN>> experiment to improve the whole species" PA> PA> Why are you telling *me* this?... PA> RN> Im not telling you, im telling the echo. :-) PA> In a message addressed to me. The very nature of echomail. Very often folks'll do what I usually term "talking to the air," making a comment meant to the echo in general, although it might well actually just be nominally addressed to just one person. :) --- JMail-H 2.80d * Origin: 221B Baker St * Ft Walton Beach FL * 904-862-8643 (1:366/221) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 108 STAR TREK Ref: F2C00004 Date: 01/31/98 From: EVIL DOCTOR Time: 07:44pm \/To: ZORCH FREZBERG (Read 0 times) Subj: Voice Work Having confronted Dr. All, Zorch Frezberg, International Man Of Mystery, exclaimed: ZF> The list so far, with collected input...remember, if you add to it, ZF> keep the format, ERASE THE QUOTE MARKS and repost it completely...put ZF> the revison date and your initials at the bottom. Here are three that I think everyone has overlooked... Voice Work (most programs/films presumed animated) ====================================== Michael Bell GARGOYLES Martin Hacker Pal Joey Avery Brooks GARGOYLES Nokkar the Sentinel Rene Auberjonois BATMAN Dr. March Levar Burton BATMAN Hayden Sloane GARGOYLES Anansi John DeLancie BATMAN Eagleton JONNY QUEST Dr. Benton Quest Michael Dorn BATMAN Various roles COW & CHICKEN I.M. Weasel DINOSAURS The Wizard GARGOYLES Coldstone Taurus REBOOT ? SUPERMAN Steel Jonathan Frakes GARGOYLES Alexander "Fox" Xanatos Coyote David Xanatos Matt Frewer BATMAN Sid The Squid GARGOYLES Jackal Gerrit Graham GARGOYLES Guardian Robert Ito GARGOYLES Dr. Sato Jennifer Lien MEN IN BLACK "B" Malcolm McDowell BATMAN Arcady Duvall SUPERMAN Metallo Ricardo Montalban FREAKAZOID Ramirez Diana Muldaur BATMAN Dr. Leslie Thompkins Colm Meany GARGOYLES Mr. Dugan Kate Mulgrew BATMAN Red Claw GARGOYLES Anastasia Renard/Titania Leonard Nimoy THE SIMPSONS As Himself Nichelle Nichols GARGOYLES Diane Maza Susie Plakson DINOSAURS Monica John Rys-Davies GARGOYLES Macbeth Dr. Arthur Morwood-Smyth BATMAN Jozek William Shatner THE SIMPSONS James T. Kirk (uncredited) W. Morgan Sheppard GARGOYLES Odin Petros Xanatos Marina Sirtis GARGOYLES Demona Margot Brent Spiner GARGOYLES Puck George Takei THE SIMPSON Hikaru Sulu (uncredited) David Warner BATMAN Ras Al-Ghul DINOSAURS Spirit of the Tree (episode 48) FREAKAZOID The Lobe GARGOYLES The Archmage Paul Winfield BATMAN Earl Cooper GARGOYLES Jeffrey Robbins =================================================================== updated 01/31/98 -dgr- ... Oh, no you're right. Kes will be dead before Voyager gets good.-V. Luk --- PB2.12|FD2.12|FE1.45 [Regstrd] * Origin: (1:244/108) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 108 STAR TREK Ref: F2C00005 Date: 01/31/98 From: EVIL DOCTOR Time: 08:20pm \/To: BRIAN DICKENS (Read 0 times) Subj: Interface Having confronted Dr. Evil, Brian Dickens, International Man Of Mystery, exclaimed: BD> Hi Evil Doctor, (What a name!) It's a long involved story. I came to Chicago on the trail of my father's killer and for reasons that don't need exploring I decided...no what a minute that's from television.... Just suffice it to say that it's not a arbitrary alias. ED> In North America (and in presumably other English speaking ED> countries) the episode title was called "Interface", was it called ED> "Visor" for the Dutch version? BD> Nope - why should they change the title? Here in the Netherlands we BD> have subtitles; however, in other countries they replace all BD> conversation with conversation in their own language - in such BD> countries the episode title could be changed. But here - no way! You see I was not aware that it was subtitled rather than dubbed, so I knew it was possible the title was changed. I hate dubbing myself, much prefer subtitles... Sincerely Yours David G. Riess EchoNotTheBentonFrasier ... Feeling Suicidal? Then Join Starfleet Security! --- PB2.12|FD2.12|FE1.45 [Regstrd] * Origin: (1:244/108) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 108 STAR TREK Ref: F2C00006 Date: 01/31/98 From: EVIL DOCTOR Time: 08:38pm \/To: MAUREEN GOLDMAN (Read 0 times) Subj: Tinker Tailer Soldier Garak Having confronted Dr. Michael, Maureen Goldman, International Man Of Mystery, exclaimed: MG> Do you think that Garak is modelled on 007 in a sort of skewed MG> way? I can see him as Bond having fallen out of favor, forced MG> to be a tailor. This also isn't too dissimilar to Steven MG> Seagal's disgraced former Navy SEAL turned cook in "Under MG> Seige" although Garak is considerably less physical. Garak actually would be more at home in the John Le Carre spy world. His novels show spies as less than glamourous, often without any moral compass, and having to rely on what few wits they have left than on tech gadgets. Remember Garak's bemused reaction to the Bond-type fantasy in "Our Man Bashir": "I think I joined the wrong service." Sincerely Yours David G. Riess EchoEvilDoctorWhoCameInFromTheCold ... "I have to see Paris." "I thought you were going to Marseille?" --- PB2.12|FD2.12|FE1.45 [Regstrd] * Origin: (1:244/108) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 108 STAR TREK Ref: F2C00007 Date: 01/31/98 From: EVIL DOCTOR Time: 11:41pm \/To: ARTIMUS BROWN (Read 0 times) Subj: Stardates Having confronted Dr. Evil, Artimus Brown, International Man Of Mystery, exclaimed: AB> I understand that problems like this will arise when trying to AB> make some sence out of some question a person may have. As you know, I AB> originally did this to answer one question that I and many others have AB> had. The question being: "How could Khan know Chekov when Chekov AB> wasn't there when the Enterprise crew first met him?" This I did when AB> I discovered that the stardate for Space Seed was 3141.9 and the AB> stardate for Catspaw was 3018.2 Another influance to do this was when Actually a simpler explanation is that Chekov was on board but we just never saw him until "Catspaw". Another Chekov example is in "The Deadly Years" in which Chekov understood Kirk's reference to `Corbomite'. AB> TNG started putting episodes in stardate order as well as prodution AB> order starting with it's second season. Which unfortunately does not validate the use of stardates for continuity purposes in TOS. Also, if you noticed, that when stardates have been used in DSN, there have been many times they been out of order. AB> I also stated, later in my posts, that there was even a problem AB> with TNG stardates concerning the death of Tasha Yar. When she died, AB> it put a crink in the stardate timeline as well. This, you will see I, AB> got around. You can get around this problem the same way if you wish AB> or, go by the production codes. The stardates with "Skin Of Evil" and "Symbiosis" were out of order? Did not notice that, of course in that case the switching of production codes was due to Denise Crosby leaving the show. In that case the order shown is in fact the correct order, at it is with DSN and VOY. AB> There are several other problems with going by stardates which I AB> will admit. Another one I can readily think of was when I put in the AB> Animated series. If you go by stardates only, all the characters are AB> out of place because we never see them in TOS. Well that series was even more random. After all this was for the kiddie set. AB> Also, if you go just by prodution codes for all of Star Trek, you AB> will see several problems arise in TNG that I can think of right away. AB> One being Unification II's prodution code is 207 and Unification I's AB> is 208. There are other instances in TNG such as this as I'm sure there AB> is in DSN and VOY as well. You may even see this in TOS somewhere. The main difference between TOS and it's modern counterparts was that TOS did not necessarily needed to be shown in order, only five episode make any reference to other episodes in the series. Often the network picked and choose which episodes aired as opposed airing them as they get them. The modern series has continuity between each episode and thus are made to be shown in a particular order. When there is a scheduling conflict then productions codes get out of order but they are still aired in the intended order. AB> The main thing is, I looked at all of Star Trek as a whole or, more AB> plainly, as a contuation from one to the next. I'd rather think of AB> them that way than seperate entities since they do have strong AB> conections to each other, even the Animated series. Even "The Infinite Vulcan"? AB> You have a method that works for you and I have one that works for AB> me and that's just fine. I have no arguments on any method. Nobody's AB> right and nobody's wrong. It's just a matter of what way you want to AB> do things. Yeah, but my way is so much simpler.... AB> Thanks for pointing this detail out to me. It has been noted in my AB> files. Interested in the other three TOS episodes with references with previous episode references? Sincerely Yours David G. Riess EchoContinuityMonger ... Top Ten Rejected Names For Canada: #5 EuroDisney --- PB2.12|FD2.12|FE1.45 [Regstrd] * Origin: (1:244/108) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 108 STAR TREK Ref: F2C00008 Date: 02/05/98 From: EVIL DOCTOR Time: 09:22pm \/To: PAUL ANDINACH (Read 0 times) Subj: ST9 Having confronted Dr. Bob, Paul Andinach, International Man Of Mystery, exclaimed: I can't resist this, eventhough I know you must have, oh about 373 messages marking your mistake, I just have to be 374... };-> BK> The director and I wasn't discussing FC. I was discussing the movie BK> where they ended up at Camp Kitamir (sp?). The last movie by the TOS BK> crew (6). PA> Khitomer? PA> But that was where Worf's parents were killed. Yep and and that was the planet at the end of the movie where the peace conference was held. PA> I'm pretty sure the snow planet in The Undiscovered Country was PA> called something quite different. That planet was call Rura Penthe after the prison island in 20,000 Leagues Under The Sea. Sincerely Yours David G. Riess EchoContinuityMonger ... Top Ten Rejected Names For Canada: #10 Kanutu --- PB2.12|FD2.12|FE1.45 [Regstrd] * Origin: (1:244/108) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 108 STAR TREK Ref: F2C00009 Date: 02/04/98 From: EVIL DOCTOR Time: 04:06pm \/To: MICHAEL MAREK (Read 0 times) Subj: Borg Thoughts Having confronted Dr. Evil, Michael Marek, International Man Of Mystery, exclaimed: ED> They can. In the episode "Q Who" we saw a Borg nursery. They are ED> born totally organic, and then shortly after birth they start installing ED> the implants. MM> The question remains whether they grow in vitro, or naturally. I MM> suspect the former. I suspect the former too, despite what Seven Of Nine says. I also suspect that they must use some sort of advanced cloning technique that involves taking the DNA from two different sources, similar to what Seska tried to do. ED> David G. Riess ED> EchoContinuityMonger MM> You seem also to have adopted the role of EchoThreadArchivist. :-) I think I'll add Interm to that. Not only am I catching up, you never know when Donald J. will show up with some two year old messages and reclaim the title... :-) David G. Riess EchoIntermThreadArchivist ... No wonder Albert kept telling God what to do. --- PB2.12|FD2.12|FE1.45 [Regstrd] * Origin: (1:244/108) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 108 STAR TREK Ref: F2C00010 Date: 02/04/98 From: EVIL DOCTOR Time: 04:16pm \/To: JIM BUNTJER (Read 0 times) Subj: Benson-Trek Crossover Having confronted Dr. Evil, Jim Buntjer, International Man Of Mystery, exclaimed: ED> Well considering that both Ethan Phillips and Rene Auberjonois are ED> Benson alumni and regular Star Trek cast members, Paramount should ED> try to get Robert Guillaume to show up and play a character. Should ED> get Inga Svenson while they're at it too... JB> Put them on Voyager. Couldn't hurt it any more than its normal shows. I think Robert Guillaume would make a good Starfleet admiral. Inga Svenson OTOH would make a good generic alien. I wonder, if she's still acting, how she feels about latex rubber? :-) Sincerely Yours David G. Riess EchoCastingDirector ... One of the boys with an IQ of 2005. --- PB2.12|FD2.12|FE1.45 [Regstrd] * Origin: (1:244/108)