--------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 156 MS WORD Ref: E2400002 Date: 02/03/97 From: LAWRENCE KELLIE Time: 06:05am \/To: CHRISTOPHER GREAVES (Read 4 times) Subj: keep with PREVIOUS > LK>You appear to not understand the purpose of the Keep with Next. It is > when > LK>you want to do that? If your object is to keep those items together, the > Ke > LK>with Next and/or the Keep Lines Together will adequately fill your needs. > Oh, but I *do* understand both "keep with next" and "keep > together". In fact, my skills are sought after, both as an > instructor and a document stylist. Good, I am happy for you. Then, you must also be sought out by Microsoft for your wisdon. > How are you going to keep the first numbered list paragraph with > the preceding paragraph? Quite simple. Change the text flow attribute of the preceding paragraph to Keep with Next. See how easy that was? > Changing the STYLE of the preceding paragraph, whatever that > style is, is not an acceptable solution, because that will > adversely affect all other instances of that style throughout > the document. I didn't change the style. I changed one attribute. Do you put a new style on one word that you want bolded within a paragraph? Do you change the style? You probably just change that one attribute for that one instance that you need that attribute. You have also not addressed a very real problem that I pointed out to you in my last post--the problem of the bottom margin. Your Keep with Previous wish would pose real problems with the bottom margin and, I would propose, would yield the *same* result as using Keep with Next. If the bottom of the preceding paragraph nudging the bottom margin, IOW, if the paragraph had one more line, it would flow over to the next page, and you added you Keep with Previous to the following bulleted item, the result would be the same as adding Keep with Next, because you have a bottom margin parameter that also must be followed. Solution? Quite simple. You state that you are sought after as "an instructor and a document stylist," so you should have already come up with this. It also sounds like you don't want to make general changes to a particular style being used for each paragraph in the document. Fine, create a macro that your users can invoke that not only selects the bullet styles for those bulleted lists but also changes that one attribute, Keep with Next, on the previous paragraph. Simple. > Changing the paragraph FORMAT of the preceding paragraph is not > acceptable, for that requires local formatting to be applied to > every paragraph preceding the occurence of a numbered list, and > we avoid local formatting as much as possible. Why isn't it acceptable? You tell me that you accept 100% the way that Microsoft WORD paginates a document? You don't make changes? You don't check the pagaination for flow? I have almost never had a document that flows and paginates the way it should. Of course, I am not a document stylist. I have just been word processing, professionally, for over 15 years with about 2 dozen word processing/editing software. In fact one job that I was in, if a paragraph ended in one word wrapping over into the next line, they would want two (that is, the "A" of Appendix A falling on the next line). Another one didn't want a line split between "Mr." and the following name (and/or Ms. Miss. Mrs., etc.). So, we had to insert a nonbreaking space there. We have to do something to meet the local need rather than always focussing on the global. > Try my example at several places throughout a document. You'll > soon see what I mean. We're meeting this situation daily, and > again, we *are* familiar with all four text-flow options, both in > local paragraph formatting and in global style definition. Then since you are familiar with the text-flow options, you know that your idea would yield the same results as Keep with Next. For, if the page can allow it--bottom margin allows it, widow/orphan control allows it--it *will* be kept together. However, and of course you already know this as you are sought after as an instructor and document stylist, if those other formatting attributes won't allow Keep with Next to work, then Keep with Previous won't work either. Lawrence ... Happy Trails To You Until We Modem Again. --- FMail 1.0g * Origin: Cala Creek Resort (in seclusion) (1:343/70.164) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 156 MS WORD Ref: E2400003 Date: 02/03/97 From: LAWRENCE KELLIE Time: 06:06am \/To: PETER MAINGAY (Read 4 times) Subj: Ctrl-Break vervolgd ... > Hallo All, > Naar aanleiding van de discussie hier over het uitschakelen van de > manieren om een boot-procedure af te breken, heb ik zelf (zoals > beloofd) eens wat geproduceerd. Het ding is gedoopt KB_Safe 1.00 > beta. This is an English only echo. Please post in English. And if this was an advertisement, don't post again. Advertisements are now allowed. Lawrence, Moderator, MS_WORD --- FMail 1.0g * Origin: Cala Creek Resort (in seclusion) (1:343/70.164) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 156 MS WORD Ref: E2400004 Date: 02/02/97 From: JORG RADEMAKER Time: 10:58pm \/To: LAWRENCE KELLIE (Read 4 times) Subj: Microsoft Works Hallo Lawrence! > It doesn't really fit in this area, but since word is a part of > works, I thought this could be interesting ! LK> I don't believe that Word is a part of MSWorks. MSWorks has a word I really don't know: I'm a CWP user :) LK> processing module, but it isn't Word. Now, Word *is* a part of LK> MSOffice; but that is a very different critter. Okay, I'll never place a message like this one in the future over here :-))) ByeBye!, Jorg Email: jorg.rademaker@illusie.iwg.nl --- Illusion Mail System! * Origin: iS ][ ---> Nu op ISDN onder het oude (node)nummer !!!! < (2:2802/9) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 156 MS WORD Ref: E2400005 Date: 02/03/97 From: THOM KIRBY Time: 09:06pm \/To: STU TURK (Read 4 times) Subj: artwork of med symbol *** Quoting Stu Turk to All dated 02-01-97 *** > Anyone know of a file that contains the medical alert symbol that > can be imported into a Word doc? Hi. I don't know where you can get it, but if you're referring to the two snakes climbing up the pole, that's called a cadusys (which I'm sure is spelled wrong :). (phonetic spelling) CAA-DUU-SIS. Maybe that'll help you find it. Thom ...Infinity is one lawyer waiting for another. --- TAG, You're It! * Origin: The Blackboard - Pomona, NY - Since 1983 (1:2625/143) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 156 MS WORD Ref: E2400006 Date: 02/02/97 From: CHRISTOPHER GREAVES Time: 07:51am \/To: RICHARD APPLING (Read 4 times) Subj: Adding file types to File Subject: Adding file types to File Open Dialog RA>the Word 95 File Open Dialog box. Preferably w/out screwing around with he RA>And while we're at it, changing the default? In theory, in Word6 (I know you're in Word7) if you open up the "FileOpen" macro and add the line: dlg.Name = "*.doc;*.dot" after the getCurValues line, you'll achieve the desired effect. From christopher.greaves@ablelink.org christopher.greaves@pro-mail.com * 1st 2.00b #6263 * People and Computers --- PCBoard (R) v15.3 (OS/2) 5 * Origin: FidoNet: CAP/CANADA Support BBS : 416 287-0234 (1:250/710) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 156 MS WORD Ref: E2400007 Date: 02/02/97 From: CHRISTOPHER GREAVES Time: 06:45pm \/To: ALL (Read 4 times) Subj: COLOURED FONTS AS BLACK? CG>How to force coloured fonts to print as black on a laser printer? Found it in yet another place: I'm running Word 6.0 under WFWG hooked up to a cheap (but effective!) HPLJ4 Choose Tools, Options, Compatibility, "Print colours as black on non-colour printers". From christopher.greaves@ablelink.org christopher.greaves@pro-mail.com * 1st 2.00b #6263 * People and Computers --- PCBoard (R) v15.3 (OS/2) 5 * Origin: FidoNet: CAP/CANADA Support BBS : 416 287-0234 (1:250/710) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 156 MS WORD Ref: E2500000 Date: 02/03/97 From: TOMMY USHER Time: 10:46am \/To: STEVEN HORN (Read 4 times) Subj: Microsoft Works SH>Lawrence Kellie (1:343/70.164) wrote to Jorg Rademaker at 16:03 on 25 Jan 19 SH> LK> I don't believe that Word is a part of MSWorks. MSWorks has a word SH> LK> processing module, but it isn't Word. Now, Word *is* a part of SH> LK> MSOffice; but that is a very different critter. SH>If Word were a part of Works, I would have bought Works ratherthan Office. SH>think of the Works word processing module as Microsoft's "home" word process For most purposes, the word processor in Works is probably sufficient. I bought Word mostly to use for creating help files, but I have found that it does have sufficient other features to make it worth the extra cost. Of course, when I built my new system I went ahead and took advantage of the low cost OEM version of Office... BTW, does anyone know if Microsoft has any kind of upgrade if you bought within 90 days of the new version like some companies do? --- * QMPro 1.52 * If At First You Don't Succeed Ignore The Docs * Origin: FidoNet GC-BBS! Grove City, Ohio 614-871-0613 (1:226/810) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 156 MS WORD Ref: E2500001 Date: 02/03/97 From: STEWART ROTHMAN Time: 12:51pm \/To: ALL (Read 4 times) Subj: Photo CD's I have a 200+ page document that I've written in WinWord 2.0b through Windows 3.1, I need to insert a couple hundred photos of quality (B & W) on most of the pages. As a test, I inserted photographs from the Corel Photo CD Sampler, which are in color in the PPD format, but the program allowed me to convert them to B & W PCX. I printed them out on my HP LJ Four (600 dpi) The quality is superb. I'm using a Northgate 386-33 with 16 megs of Ram and a 1.6 gig hard drive, with one gig open. I know it's very slow in printing and I may upgrade my machine to a Pentium Motherboard at 120, 133, or 166 mhz before I actually get started to print the file. My question is, where can I find a service that I can send a couple hundred photos or 35mm color slides to and have them put them on a CD or two in the same excellent quality as the Corel's, and at a reasonable price, so I can insert them into my document the same as I did from the Corel Photo CD Sampler? If you know of such a service, please leave me a message, if you provide such a service, please leave me a message and the aproximate costs. You may Fax at (907) 474-0090 or E-Mail at rssnr@aurora.alaska.com or lensalaska@juno.com Thanks much Stu Rothman --- Squish/386 v1.11 * Origin: Rothman's Lens Unlimited Fairbanks AK (1:355/38.6) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 156 MS WORD Ref: E2500002 Date: 02/04/97 From: PETER MAINGAY Time: 03:23am \/To: ALL (Read 4 times) Subj: Ctrl-Break vervolgd ... Hello All, PM> aanwezig als: KBS_100.arj 21320 bytes I wrote a message overhere about a program I developped. I'm sorry for the inconvenience, but by mistake I posted it in the wrong rea. I wanted to post it in the dutch area MsDos.028 (which is close :-)) Grtnx, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Peter << --- GoldED/386 2.50 UNREG * Origin: Czar's Zenana ++31-74-2504834 (@fidonet 2:283/335.14) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 156 MS WORD Ref: E2B00000 Date: 02/04/97 From: LARRY ANDERSON Time: 04:35pm \/To: ALL (Read 3 times) Subj: Office 97 Word for Office 97.. how nice.. Using an HP 550 with Win95... go to print an envelope and I have to change the orientation of the envelope, (the way it is laying in the feeder, everytime. It does not seem to save the orientation as a default. It does, but then it loses it. Anyone else having this problem? Next... Reading the guidelines for creating Windows 95 programs, you see that it must use the standard window colors and dialog boxes for its windows. But, if you have your little office assistance there, he breaks the rules... who does this Gates think he is, the richest man in the world. (: Larry --- Platinum Xpress/Win/Wildcat5! v2.0GQ * Origin: Osceola Express BBS/Kissimmee,FL./407-348-5295 (1:3633/23)