--------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 155 OLD CARS Ref: F5G00006 Date: 04/17/98 From: CHRIS BILTCLIFFE Time: 02:12pm \/To: WES LEATHEROCK (Read 0 times) Subj: 'Normal service' -=> Quoting Wes Leatherock to Chris Biltcliffe <=- I know it's been a while since you've heard from me. Probably even forgotten the conversation alltogether. Sorry about that...got busy and went away for a while. Anyway, if you want my last reply, here it is. WL> The owner's manual for every car I've had (including the WL> current ones) describes "severe service" as mostly stop-and-go WL> driving and many short trips. WL> Driving on the highway is considered "normal service." Actually, normal service is more like driving on the highway, between 35 and 55 mph, in a sterilized and microfiltered atmosphere, with outside ambient temperature between 55 and 80 degrees F, no trailer towing, this that and the other thing, blah, blah, blah. I'm just referring to the general longevity of cars such as the Lincoln we were talking about. No matter how you drive it, 85,000 still isn't a lot. Unless of course, you've never changed the oil in the whole life of the car. (OUCH!) WL> Of course, it's not uncommon for people to become WL> grandparents by 40 years old and they don't drive like little That's true, I suppose. I'm just used to my family in which every generation is 40 years apart. I'm only 23, but all my grandparents have been dead for quite a while. ... A clean desk is a sign of a cluttered desk drawer. --- OLMS 2.60p.a1+ [EPMBP73M] * Origin: Multiboard * 519-680-2991 * Internet (1:2401/0) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 155 OLD CARS Ref: F5G00007 Date: 04/19/98 From: ALEXANDER BILAN Time: 09:25am \/To: TIM CAMPBELL (Read 0 times) Subj: Old electrical systems > Does anyone know of a source for a 6 volt positive ground fuel pump? > > Thanks for any suggestions. The next question then is, have you found 6v neg. ground fuel pumps? If thats the case, just keep the fuel pump isolated from any metal mounting surfaces and run wires appropriately. If you've found nothing by way of 6v pumps, whats the application? A 12volt conversion would be my first choice in a vehicle. If you've got web access, point yourself to http://www.oldengine.org and goto the unfaq page for a 6to12v blurb. Alex. | AmiQWK 2.7 - S/N 0261 | ... Always listen to experts. Hear the impossible then do it. --- OLMS 2.60p.a1+ [EPMBP73M] * Origin: Multiboard * 519-680-2991 * Internet (1:2401/0) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 155 OLD CARS Ref: F5G00008 Date: 04/22/98 From: JACK YATES Time: 12:28pm \/To: RALPH HAWKINS (Read 0 times) Subj: air RH>>> switchbox as possible, even if this is not the most RH>>> convenient location in my garage? Even had one suggestion RH>>> to locate it outside the garage next to the power source... RH>>> pour a pad and build a cover... would also cut DD>> The only consideration there would probably be noise. RH> Over time that could be worth it to get it outside. Yes, and that's a big consideration. If it isn't feasible to move the compressor outside, piping the air intake outside the building will do away with at least 50% of the noise. --- GEcho 1.00 * Origin: The Gawga Mail! --Messages only-- 706-989-0087 (1:18/177) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 155 OLD CARS Ref: F5G00009 Date: 04/22/98 From: TIM CAMPBELL Time: 09:15pm \/To: GERRY CALHOUN (Read 0 times) Subj: Old electrical systems > Tim Campbell wrote in a message to All: > TC> Does anyone know of a source for a 6 volt positive ground fuel pump? > TC> > This for your old Cadilliac? I don't know about any 6 volt pumps, > but I have one of the 12 volt after market ones in my garage and > will see what happens on 6 volts for ya. It's one of the cheap > Purolator $25 dollar "solid sate" ones I got to put on my Imperial. > I'll hook it up to a power supply I have. I'll get back to you on it > in the next week. > You might also try an auto parts store that carries Bendix parts > or have a look in a J.C. Whitney catalog. Thanks, nothing in J.C. Whitney. They have negative ground, but that won't work in my system. And yes it is for the LaSalle. Seems that I am having vapor lock problems and thought that an electrical pump might help things out. I will be the chauffer for my daughters prom in a couple of weeks and I don't want anything to give me problems. Tnx again TC --- FMail/386 1.22 * Origin: Dimension 99 <<<*>>> 510 441-0919 Union City, CA. (1:215/201) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 155 OLD CARS Ref: F5G00010 Date: 04/23/98 From: ROY J. TELLASON Time: 10:55am \/To: TREVOR MCNAUGHTON (Read 0 times) Subj: DODGE CHARGER Trevor Mcnaughton wrote in a message to ROY J. TELLASON: TM> well awhile back you posted a message asking how to get a TM> part for a Dodge Charger....so I said all you have to do is TM> sent a letter to Dodge asking for the part Not me, I don't have a Charger... Wish I did, though! :-) email: roy.j.tellason%tanstaaf@frackit.com --- * Origin: TANSTAAFL BBS 717-432-0764 (1:270/615) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 155 OLD CARS Ref: F5G00011 Date: 04/23/98 From: ROY J. TELLASON Time: 10:56am \/To: ALEXANDER BILAN (Read 0 times) Subj: Old electrical systems Alexander Bilan wrote in a message to Tim Campbell: AB> If you've got web access, point yourself to AB> http://www.oldengine.org and goto the unfaq page for a 6to12v AB> blurb. No web access here, but if someone wants to get that file here, email or otherwise, I'll make it available in the files section for anybody that wants it... email: roy.j.tellason%tanstaaf@frackit.com --- * Origin: TANSTAAFL BBS 717-432-0764 (1:270/615) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 155 OLD CARS Ref: F5G00012 Date: 04/18/98 From: ROY WITT Time: 04:37pm \/To: LANDON ROBINSON (Read 0 times) Subj: Chevy engine 18 Apr 98 18:10, Landon Robinson said this about Re: Chevy engine to Roy tt. RW>> Well, neither one is set in stone. Take the cubic inches and RW>> multiply it by 16.387 to convert it ccs. A 350ci engine works RW>> out to 5735.5ccs. Do the combustion chamber addition and your RW>> air pressure LR> LR> I did some math since my last posting. Sorry it has been a LR> while I've been way too busy for my own good. I have figured LR> out (hopefully correctly) what my 350's compresson is. I LR> converted the cylendar to cc's as you said and added in the area LR> for the head gasket and then divided it by the combustion area LR> of the head. Anyway here goes. Each cylendar is equal to LR> 43.75ci plus .477ci for the head gasket area then mult. by LR> 16.387 equals 724.747 cc's. Divide that by the combustion area LR> of 76cc's ('487 heads) and that comes up to a ratio of 9.53. It shouldn't be that high. If those heads haven't been off since it was new, they're the thin ones, under .030 when squished. If they've been off, they've been replaced with the .040+ gaskets. Then you have to take into account how much clearance there is from the block deck to the top of the piston, IE; deck height... That's probably another .025-.030 or more. You'll probably be down in the 9.0:1 ratio by the time you take all of that into account. A few years ago I built a 455 +.03 Pontiac engine. I had everything done to the block, except check the deck height. When I got it bored and everything ready to assemble, I only put in the end mains and the end pistons. I marked the block for how much to have the machine shop remove to equalize the deck heights. .005 off one end and up to .015 on the other. Each end piston now has .020 deck height... This engine doesn't need high compression, since it works great with that long arm of the 455. 4.21", makes for lots of torque... LR> Not as high as I thought it was and I guess my math was a LR> bit off. But much more believable (even to myself) than 11.1 LR> and still running on 88 octane gas. Perhaps when I pull the LR> engine I can drop the oil pan and copy the part numbers off the LR> pistons and that will shed some light onto what it is. Should be flat-tops with valve relief four places... ... I am correct, the rest of you are wrong! * Origin: Bow Tie Racers, Been There, WON That! (1:202/909.13) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 155 OLD CARS Ref: F5G00013 Date: 04/19/98 From: GREG KURTH Time: 01:55pm \/To: RALPH HAWKINS (Read 0 times) Subj: AIR RH> Should the compressor be located as close to the switchbox as possib It doesn't matter, except that longer runs mean you need a larger gauge of wire. RH>pad and build a cover... would also cut down on noise in the garage. It would also keep paint overspray out of it. I wouldn't put it outside though. You meant out of the garage but still indoors, right? RH> Should there be separate lines for painting/all other uses? No. RH> As Memphis is very humid most of the year, where is the best locatio RH>for the water trap? One says near the tank... another says at the end of th Maybe both if it's that humid. Water is annoying coming out of tools (and it's really not good for them), but it can destroy a paint job. RH> How often should it be drained? You can't drain it too often. . --- SLMR 2.0 #1330 Why does monosyllable have five? --- FLAME v1.1 * Origin: Telnet toltbbs.com or call 313-854-6001, Boardwatch #55 (1:234/2) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 155 OLD CARS Ref: F5G00014 Date: 04/24/98 From: MODERATOR Time: 12:10am \/To: ALL (Read 0 times) Subj: Rules of the OLDCARS Echo Rules for FidoNet's OLDCARS Echo *** Revised 3-18-96 *** The following are the rules for the OLDCARS FIDO-NET echo conference. This conference is carried on the FIDO-NET backbone and is moderated by Gerry Calhoun at 1:2004/200. These rules will be subject to change if a change seems needed or is requested. Enforcement of the rules will be handled in the echo and/or via net-mail. Repeated violations of the rules may be considered grounds for the offending node to have its link to this conference cut. Rule #1: Please try to keep your language suitable to all ages. 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If there are any questions or comments about these rules, address them to me, Gerry Calhoun, via net-mail ONLY at 1:2004/200. --- * Origin: PETS R US! 805-946-8345 - Lancaster, CA (1:2004/200) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 155 OLD CARS Ref: F5G00015 Date: 04/23/98 From: RALPH HAWKINS Time: 07:41am \/To: DON DELLMANN (Read 0 times) Subj: air Hello Don! 21 Apr 98 23:31, Don Dellmann wrote to Ralph Hawkins: RH>> Are there as many ideas on oil as there are with internal RH>> combusion engines? DD> You can get special compressor oil from your dealer, but in most DD> of our machines we just put straight 30 weight non-detergent DD> motor oil. What's on the inside of the can is more important than the advertising on the outside. Ralph You're Not a Kid Anymore When... You buy a compass for the dash of your car. --- GoldED/P32 2.42.G0214 * Origin: Wits' Other End BBS-(901)373-8677 (1:123/316)