--------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 155 OLD CARS Ref: F1B00000 Date: 01/06/98 From: JACK SCHWENDENER Time: 08:24am \/To: ROY J. TELLASON (Read 0 times) Subj: Old Cars RJT> SD> Second time was because the ignition module went out... RJT>Oh yeah, the old ignition module problem... RJT>I got nailed with that one once. Now there's an extra one in the cab, Yup, I always carry one in my ('85) Bronco (II). Had one go just a couple months ago, sure glad I had it .... Jackson --- * SLMR 2.1 * Speed costs money - How fast can you afford to go? --- WILDMAIL!/WC v4.12 * Origin: ELLIOTT'S BBS ORANGEVALE, CA 916-988-0954 (1:203/721.0) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 155 OLD CARS Ref: F1B00001 Date: 01/06/98 From: ROY J. TELLASON Time: 04:14pm \/To: JACK SCHWENDENER (Read 0 times) Subj: Old Cars Jack Schwendener wrote in a message to Roy J. Tellason: RJT> SD> Second time was because the ignition module went out... RJT>Oh yeah, the old ignition module problem... RJT>I got nailed with that one once. Now there's an extra one in the cab, JS> Yup, I always carry one in my ('85) Bronco (II). Had one go JS> just a couple months ago, sure glad I had it .... The one I have extra is the replacement we bought for the Escort, which had been purchased at Wal-Mart (good price!) after that one crapped out. Why is it that we had two Ford vehicles and both had the same problem, I wonder? And I've had multiple Chrysler-made vehicles that used solid-state ignition modules and have never seen any failures there at all. Of course, that Ford module was the *only* one they had at Wal-Mart, too. Hmm. email: roy.j.tellason%tanstaaf@frackit.com --- * Origin: TANSTAAFL BBS 717-432-0764 (1:270/615) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 155 OLD CARS Ref: F1B00002 Date: 01/06/98 From: LANDON ROBINSON Time: 05:45pm \/To: ALL (Read 0 times) Subj: Ignition modules -=> Quoting Roy J. Tellason to Jack Schwendener <=- RJT> @MSGID: 1:270/615.0 4b2ad240 RJT> Jack Schwendener wrote in a message to Roy J. Tellason: RJT> SD> Second time was because the ignition module went out... RJT>Oh yeah, the old ignition module problem... RJT>I got nailed with that one once. Now there's an extra one in the cab, JS> Yup, I always carry one in my ('85) Bronco (II). Had one go JS> just a couple months ago, sure glad I had it .... RJT> The one I have extra is the replacement we bought for the Escort, RJT> which had been purchased at Wal-Mart (good price!) after that one RJT> crapped out. Why is it that we had two Ford vehicles and both had the RJT> same problem, I wonder? My '77 Ford F-250 as far as I know still has the same module in it that it rolled out of the factory with. There was some kind of test you can do on it with an ohm meter and a 500watt heat lamp but I don't remember the specifics. The main problem that that particular module had was that it was placed to close to heat sources which over heated the circuit board. After cooling back down the module would then allow you to start your car again. My truck has never had this problem it is mounted clear up on the firewall by the hood away from everything. A friend of mine with an HEI ignition had his go out on the way home from the local college after class got out. He replaced that 5 pin module inside the distributor and it worked fine. One of our instructors let him have one out of a distributor out in the shop so it didn't cost him anything. --- Blue Wave v2.12 [NR] * Origin: The Overworked Dragon BBS (503)256-8451 PDX (1:105/56) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 155 OLD CARS Ref: F1C00000 Date: 01/07/98 From: SEAN DUNBAR Time: 04:56am \/To: LANDON ROBINSON (Read 0 times) Subj: Re: Ignition modules LR> My '77 Ford F-250 as far as I know still has the same module in it LR> that it rolled out of the factory with. There was some kind of test LR> you can do on it with anohm meter and a 500watt heat lamp but I don't LR> remember the specifics. The main problem that that particular module My Haynes manual for my '80 Ford F-150 has details on some sort of test you can do on the module... though when I followed it after my module went out, it tested good. Go figure. In my case, I always had problems with the engine dying, but could always start it right back up, every few days since I got the truck. One day, after I'd had it almost 2 years, it just died going down the road and wouldn't start again. No spark or anything. Got it towed home.. and it started right up! Died again a minute later, and wouldn't start. I replaced that pesky module on a hunch though, and it's never died from lack of spark since then. The module for mine is mounted on the inner wheelwell (which is plastic), but it's almost 2 feet away from the engine. Not much room on the firewall. --- Telegard v3.09.g1/mL * Origin: tos * 972-818-0339 - dallas texas (1:124/6630) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 155 OLD CARS Ref: F1C00001 Date: 01/07/98 From: LANDON ROBINSON Time: 02:54pm \/To: SEAN DUNBAR (Read 0 times) Subj: Re: Ignition modules -=> Quoting Sean Dunbar to Landon Robinson <=- SD> @MSGID: 1:124/6630 bbe2498a LR> My '77 Ford F-250 as far as I know still has the same module in it LR> that it rolled out of the factory with. There was some kind of test LR> you can do on it with anohm meter and a 500watt heat lamp but I don't LR> remember the specifics. The main problem that that particular module SD> My Haynes manual for my '80 Ford F-150 has details on some sort of SD> test you can do on the module... though when I followed it after my SD> module went out, it tested good. Go figure. In my case, I always had SD> problems with the engine dying, but could always start it right back SD> up, every few days since I got the truck. One day, after I'd had it SD> almost 2 years, it just died going down the road and wouldn't start SD> again. No spark or anything. Got it towed home.. and it started SD> right up! Died again a minute later, and wouldn't start. SD> I replaced that pesky module on a hunch though, and it's never died SD> from lack of spark since then. The module for mine is mounted on the SD> inner wheelwell (which is plastic), but it's almost 2 feet away from SD> the engine. Not much room on the firewall. SD> -!- Telegard v3.09.g1/mL SD> ! Origin: tos * 972-818-0339 - dallas texas (1:124/6630) Sounds like yours passed the ohm meter test (or what ever your manual had you test for) but failed under a load. Not to be off subject or anything but I had an S-VGA monitor do the same thing. On to other things... I don't know if I didn't reply to some past message you sent me if I did I don't remember what it was. My hard drive crashed about the same day I was going to delete and back up a load of stuff (about 200megs worth) and also in that same week the BBS I get this echo from started having major mother board problems and the Bluewave door quit working as some weird result. In a house hold with 2 adults, 2 children, 2 computers and an Internet connection with ONE phone line Bluewave is the only way I can reply to all my email without hearing "can I use the phone... SOON?" If you have a choice between getting an electronic or an electro-mechanical regulator for a car that came with an electro-mechanical regulator get the electro-mechanical one. I thought it would be cool to have up-to-date technology only to have it fry after three years. I hooked a volt meter up to the elctrical system and drove to work (with everything on) and found out that it was only putting out 11 volts at 2,300 RPM's (10 with the brakes and turn signal on). I put a new reg. in and things came back to normal. Wouldn't happen to know what size tires a '68 Chevy Impala is supposed to have? When I bought it had P205/70R14's on it but I have been told these are small for the size of car they are on. The owners manual (believe it or not it was in the glove box when I bought it) has some suggested sizes but what ever standard they had for sizes it is before my time. Ttyl. --- Blue Wave v2.12 [NR] * Origin: The Overworked Dragon BBS (503)256-8451 PDX (1:105/56) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 155 OLD CARS Ref: F1C00002 Date: 01/06/98 From: ALEXANDER BILAN Time: 08:05pm \/To: DAY BROWN (Read 0 times) Subj: Old Cars You where writing to Nikko Kvasnicka; > NK> By the way, what would be considered Old Cars in this echo??? > Let me suggest anything up to 1973, when a number anti-pollution > systems were added to vehicles sold in the American market. Since I havn't seen Gerrys response yet, I do believe that any *VEHICLE* 15 years and older is considered fair game for the echo. [stuff deleted] > With earlier models, the contact point ignition systems were all > well understood, and understandable by mechanics. Likewise, the > carburettors were often complex, but still understandable by the > experienced technician. Same goes for standard transmissions, > differentials, drum brakes, suspension, etc.. the restorer can be > totally confident that the vehicle will perform as needed. The HEI is not such a terrible electronic gadget, and much better than any points system. What about disc brakes? Lots simpler than drums. No springs, no little clips and washers.. =) > Automatic trannys OTOH, have so many hidden galleys and hydraulic > valves that no technician can afford to spend the time to examine > them all, and still get more than one rebuilt a year; he must put > his faith in the immersion chemicals to clean the castings to the > point where they will *likely* be servicable. Well... they did that with the old stuff to. > Of course, later models can be put on the road with aftermarket > ignition, emmission and fuel systems that may function, but of > course the vehicle won't be, therefore, in 'showroom' condition. "Real street rods have stone chips". I think that can be extended to include that the car has whatever combination of bits and peices you want. My (old) car certainly isn't in showroom condition... Its BETTER! =) No. I'm not harping at you. Just a few of your opinions clash with my opinions. Which just extends into the above also, cars are as individual as the owner. (except these jelly beans they pass off these days as cars) Alex. | AmiQWK 2.7 - S/N 0261 | ... WOBBLEWOBBLEWOBBLEWOBBLEWOBBLE THUNK THUD BANGBANGBANG >CRASH --- OLMS 2.60p.a1+ [EPMBP73M] * Origin: Multiboard * 519-680-2991 * Internet (1:2401/0) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 155 OLD CARS Ref: F1D00000 Date: 01/08/98 From: LANDON ROBINSON Time: 02:26pm \/To: JACK SCHWENDENER (Read 0 times) Subj: Tires -=> Quoting Jack Schwendener to Landon Robinson <=- JS> @MSGID: 1:203/721.0 8BD9B175 LR>Wouldn't happen to know what size tires a '68 Chevy Impala is supposed to LR>have? When I bought it had P205/70R14's on it but I have been told these are LR>small for the size of car they are on. The owners manual (believe it or not JS> I ran 225-75R15's on an old '69 Buick, although they may have been a JS> tad big .... BIG is what I want (on the back anyway). I had some 30x9.5x15" light truck tires that I was going to put on the back of the Impala after I put air shocks in to take car of the obvious clearance problem but I couldn't find any rims in the junk yards around here that would accept the tire and fit on the end of my axles. New rims are out of the question (cost wise) right now. Basically I don't want to turn the Impala into a low rider Portland (Oregon) has way to many pot-holes, speed bumps, drop offs, high/low incline/decline drive ways, etc etc. for a low rider to survive for very long. I want to turn the thing into one of those muscle car era street machines with the back bumper about three/four feet off the ground. Plus having big tires on the back will up the final drive ratio to make the thing seriously launch at take off (it does that anyway but more is better :) ). JS> As I recall, those came with 7.75x14s, which translates to about a JS> 205-75. But those original 7.75s were on the small side anyhow (to cut JS> cost). I wouldn't hesitate to go up a size or 2.... That size is what I think the manual had in it although it may have been a 8.25x14. Thanks for the info. -Landon --- Blue Wave v2.12 [NR] * Origin: The Overworked Dragon BBS (503)256-8451 PDX (1:105/56) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 155 OLD CARS Ref: F1D00001 Date: 01/08/98 From: JACK SCHWENDENER Time: 12:10pm \/To: ROY J. TELLASON (Read 0 times) Subj: Old Cars RJT> JS> Yup, I always carry one in my ('85) Bronco (II). Had one go RJT>Why is it that we had two Ford vehicles and both had the same problem, I Well, I'm on my third in the Bronco, at 90k. The ones mounted on the distributor seem to get too hot, but I'll get a spare for my '94 F-250 too, even tho it mounts on the fender well, on a big heat sink .... RJT>Ford module was the *only* one they had at Wal-Mart, too. When I bought the first onw for my Bronco, when it was only a few months old, I asked the parts guy for whatever he had (ignition stuff) for it. He said, "All I have is these modules." Probably a good reason for that.... ;-) Jackson --- * SLMR 2.1 * Speed costs money - How fast can you afford to go? --- WILDMAIL!/WC v4.12 * Origin: ELLIOTT'S BBS ORANGEVALE, CA 916-988-0954 (1:203/721.0) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 155 OLD CARS Ref: F1D00002 Date: 01/08/98 From: JACK SCHWENDENER Time: 12:41pm \/To: LANDON ROBINSON (Read 0 times) Subj: Ignition modules LR>Wouldn't happen to know what size tires a '68 Chevy Impala is supposed to LR>have? When I bought it had P205/70R14's on it but I have been told these are LR>small for the size of car they are on. The owners manual (believe it or not I ran 225-75R15's on an old '69 Buick, although they may have been a tad big .... As I recall, those came with 7.75x14s, which translates to about a 205-75. But those original 7.75s were on the small side anyhow (to cut cost). I wouldn't hesitate to go up a size or 2.... Jackson --- * SLMR 2.1 * Speed costs money - How fast can you afford to go? --- WILDMAIL!/WC v4.12 * Origin: ELLIOTT'S BBS ORANGEVALE, CA 916-988-0954 (1:203/721.0) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 155 OLD CARS Ref: F1D00003 Date: 01/09/98 From: DON DELLMANN Time: 02:21am \/To: ALEXANDER BILAN (Read 0 times) Subj: Old Cars While tripping merrily through the mail, Alexander Bilan was overheard AB> Since I havn't seen Gerrys response yet, I do believe that any AB> *VEHICLE* 15 years and older is considered fair game for the echo. Gee, that means as of last Friday my "daily driver" qualifies (an '83 Buick) :-) Don ... He then left in a Huff (A small German sportscar). --- * Origin: *YOPS ]I[* 3.1 GIG * RA/FD/FE RADist * Milwaukee, WI (1:154/750)