--------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 155 OLD CARS Ref: EES00008 Date: 10/22/97 From: BILL CLARK Time: 01:46pm \/To: METT RENFROW (Read 0 times) Subj: ENGINE DESIGN On (09 Oct 97) METT RENFROW wrote to PETE SNIDAL... MR> The down side to this would be the storage space and staffing MR> required for said battery exchanging and charging. Don't forget the expense when the EPA and OSHA get involved... They'd have a field day with this one... -bc- --- PPoint 2.00 * Origin: Wow... I just had a V8 (1:132/180.1) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 155 OLD CARS Ref: EES00009 Date: 10/22/97 From: CRAIG HEALY Time: 09:23am \/To: ROY J. TELLASON (Read 0 times) Subj: Wanted Chevy '57 -> CH> I have a 2 ton mongrel in the driveway now. Basically my -> CH> snowplow rig. '83 Chevy schoolbus chassis (shortened), Ford -> CH> 6-cylinder engine and automatic trans, Eaton 18500 two speed -> CH> axle, and a '47 Chevy cab. I do need some body parts, BTW... -> -> Wow. I've never been able to figure out how some folks managed to do -> across brands like that, unless you've got some hellacious facilitie -> something. Trucks are bone-simple, actually. The engine required a couple of brackets to adapt the Ford mounts to the chassis, and the trans mount dropped right it, oddly enough! I took the cab mounts from the '47 chassis and adapted them to the '83 chassis. Made a mount for the rear of the cab, and it bolted on. Really didn't need anything more than torches, arc welder, and the usual drills and hand tools. Did this one in the side yard, not even in the garage. -> -> CH> Will keep the 440 engine, however. A forged crank/non-thinwall -> -> CH> block engine is a good thing. -> -> -> -> Yep. I may want to step up some from that 318 I'm sticking in the -> -> truck, once I put it on the road and start hauling around a -> -> camper with it. -> -> -> -> CH> And this also has the crank drilled for a standard-shift pilot -> -> CH> bushing. -> -> -> -> What's that all about? -> -> CH> Some of the 440s weren't drilled for the standard shift pilot -> CH> bushing, and some were only drilled buy not finish-reamed. -> CH> This appears to be the right diameter to have the bushing -> CH> installed. Chrysler has some assembly line quirks. -> -> Oh, you mean standard shift as opposed to automatic? I haven't done -> that sort of thing, most of what I've ever owned has been auto... Yup, needs a hole to put the standard shift pilot bushing. -> Speaking of which if the guy I got the truck from can get a hold of -> these torque converters he's got someplace, I get to try and figure -> out which one of three or so is the right one to go with the -> transmission that's in the truck. -> The trucks do use a different converter. The stall speed is a bit higher, or so I'm told. There is not external difference, except for some with added balance weights for externally-balanced cranks. -c- --- ViaMAIL!/WC4 v1.30 * Origin: Chowdanet! 20gb Amateur Radio BBS (401-331-5587) (1:323/120) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 155 OLD CARS Ref: EES00010 Date: 10/22/97 From: CRAIG HEALY Time: 09:37pm \/To: ROY WITT (Read 0 times) Subj: Wanted Chevy '57 -> 20 Oct 97 21:43, Puleeeeze Brer Craig Healy, Dooooon't trow Wanted Ch -> in dat der Briar Patch! -> -> CH> I have a 2 ton mongrel in the driveway now. Basically my snowplo -> CH> rig. '83 Chevy schoolbus chassis (shortened), Ford 6-cylinder eng -> CH> and automatic trans, Eaton 18500 two speed axle, and a '47 Chevy -> cab. CH> I do need some body parts, BTW... -> -> Just missed a 48 Chevy pickup body and bed on a rolling frame for $40 -> no rust... My brother-in-law has a pickup all apart in several basements. Body work has been completely done to the primer stage. But he won't part with it. :( -c- --- ViaMAIL!/WC4 v1.30 * Origin: Chowdanet! 20gb Amateur Radio BBS (401-331-5587) (1:323/120) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 155 OLD CARS Ref: EES00011 Date: 10/22/97 From: ALEXANDER BILAN Time: 07:10pm \/To: ROY J. TELLASON (Read 0 times) Subj: sources for parts? > Not that I'm aware of offhand. The last one I heard about was around > the > beginning of the month, and at that point in time I had just started > working > and didn't have any funds for the show, much less any parts I might I was thinking of those weekly parking lot meets that are free to attend. We have two in our area, one on Sundays put together by a local car club, another tuesday nighter put on by the Sunshine foundation. Both free, and draw a heck of a crowd. So, the "display" area and general parking could provide a measurement vehicle. (Don't forget to add mush factor for the final dimensions) Another thought, check the local library and a genuine Mopar repair manual (Body/Chassis) for your vehicle. It may contain the necessary dimensions. > If I find some decent bushings at a junkyard, I'll probably buy 'em! > The > thing is, I'd have to find a vehicle where they'd been replaced, as > most of > what's going to be out there in the yards is going to be in as bad a > shape as > what I've got in there now. Accidents happen. Go every week, and if you find 'em, have them pull them. If you don't have the cash with you when you find 'em, have them pull them, and keep them. With emphasis on keep them for you. Not the next guy that walks in looking for bushings and sees them on the counter. =) > I'm still exploring some options, hoping I can get this fixed before > the really nasty weather gets here... And when that happens, keep going to the wreckers every week, once some winter mishaps occur, you might find a good donor vehicle. Know anybody in the body shop business? Another good spot to check. Alex. check us out; http://www.oldengine.org | AmiQWK 2.7 - S/N 0261 | ... If you don't have anything nice to say, sit by me. --- OLMS 2.60p.a1+ [EPMBP73M] * Origin: Multiboard * 519-680-2991 * Internet (1:2401/0) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 155 OLD CARS Ref: EES00012 Date: 10/23/97 From: JACK SCHWENDENER Time: 07:29am \/To: WILLIAM SCOTT LOCKWOOD II (Read 0 times) Subj: Wanted Chevy '57 WSLI>WSLI>>It was custom. WSLI>>It was a custom 427 Chevy hemi .... ?? ;-) WSLI>Ask the Missus, it was her car. WSLI>She can be reached here in the echo, or at 1:202/429.1 or 1:202/1234. Hmmm, well she ain't the one telling the story. I can believe it was a 427 and a Chevy and a custom, but it certainly wasn't a hemi .... (Although sometimes people refered to the canted valve design as a "semi-hemi" .... ) Have a good one! Jackson --- * SLMR 2.1 * Speed costs money - How fast can you afford to go? --- WILDMAIL!/WC v4.12 * Origin: ELLIOTT'S BBS ORANGEVALE, CA 916-988-0954 (1:203/721.0) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 155 OLD CARS Ref: EET00000 Date: 10/23/97 From: ROY J. TELLASON Time: 06:01pm \/To: ALEXANDER BILAN (Read 0 times) Subj: sources for parts? Alexander Bilan wrote in a message to Roy J. Tellason: > Not that I'm aware of offhand. The last one I heard about was around > the beginning of the month, and at that point in time I had > just started working and didn't have any funds for the show, > much less any parts I might AB> I was thinking of those weekly parking lot meets that are free AB> to attend. We have two in our area, one on Sundays put AB> together by a local car club, another tuesday nighter put on by AB> the Sunshine foundation. Both free, and draw a heck of a AB> crowd. So, the "display" area and general parking could provide AB> a measurement vehicle. (Don't forget to add mush factor for the AB> final dimensions) I should be so lucky... The meets around here are all shows in Carlisle, with the exception of the big antique auto thing in Hershey that's once a year, and mostly dealing with stuff much older than what I own. AB> Another thought, check the local library and a genuine Mopar AB> repair manual (Body/Chassis) for your vehicle. It may contain AB> the necessary dimensions. Hmm. I don't know of any such in the area here. I keep hearing stuff about some of the things that people are able to find in their libraries, and it amazes me, compared to what I've been able to find locally. Perhaps, if I'm real lucky, I can find such a thing at a local vo-tech school. > If I find some decent bushings at a junkyard, I'll probably buy 'em! > The thing is, I'd have to find a vehicle where they'd been > replaced, as most of what's going to be out there in the yards > is going to be in as bad a shape as what I've got in there now. AB> Accidents happen. Go every week, and if you find 'em, have AB> them pull them. If you don't have the cash with you when you AB> find 'em, have them pull them, and keep them. With emphasis on AB> keep them for you. Not the next guy that walks in looking for AB> bushings and sees them on the counter. =) There's one local junkyard that specializes in Mopars, and older stuff at that, and I'm trying to track down their exact location and a phone number. That strikes me as the best bet, particularly since someone told me that they saw a "new" (or new-looking?) set of bushings there. > I'm still exploring some options, hoping I can get this fixed before > the really nasty weather gets here... AB> And when that happens, keep going to the wreckers every week, AB> once some winter mishaps occur, you might find a good donor AB> vehicle. The problem is, there doesn't appear to be all that much older stuff like that on the road around here any more. I had a couple of different Darts (a '70 and a '75) for a bunch of years before I got this car, and there seemed to be zillions of them around the area before, but not so much any more. AB> Know anybody in the body shop business? Another good spot to AB> check. Nope, though it did occur to me that a body shop might be another place to try for a source of those parts, other than the ones I'm looking at so far. email: roy.j.tellason%tanstaaf@frackit.com --- * Origin: TANSTAAFL BBS 717-432-0764 (1:270/615) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 155 OLD CARS Ref: EET00001 Date: 10/23/97 From: WILLIAM SCOTT LOCKWOOD III Time: 04:40pm \/To: JACK SCHWENDENER (Read 0 times) Subj: Wanted Chevy '57 >Hmmm, well she ain't the one telling the story. I can believe it was a >427 and a Chevy and a custom, but it certainly wasn't a hemi .... Actually, she is. I wasn't ALIVE then, okay old timer? :-) Every time someone says something about this, I simply turn my and and say, "Hon, what was the deal with that ancient car you used to drive?" and she then says what ever it is I type. >(Although sometimes people refered to the canted valve design as a >"semi-hemi" .... ) Again, ask her. She can give you the details. I have said repeatedly, I wasn't there, so I don't KNOW. Okay? Thanks. --- Msged/386 4.10 * Origin: Corpsmans Corner BBS, Oceanside, California (1:202/429) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 155 OLD CARS Ref: EET00002 Date: 10/23/97 From: ROY WITT Time: 06:13pm \/To: CRAIG HEALY (Read 0 times) Subj: Wanted Chevy '57 22 Oct 97 21:37, Puleeeeze Brer Craig Healy, Dooooon't trow Wanted Chevy '57 in dat der Briar Patch! ->> Just missed a 48 Chevy pickup body and bed on a rolling frame for ->> $40 ->> no rust... CH> CH> My brother-in-law has a pickup all apart in several basements. Body CH> work has been completely done to the primer stage. But he won't part CH> with it. :( This one was at an auto-swap last weekend. It was towed in and left there with a sign on it... I had intended to go back and put my business card on the windshield with an offer for $200 if they towed it to my shop.. Forgot all about it until I saw them pull out of the parking lot.. It was rough, but had already been setup for a Chevy SB and automatic. Plenty of extra parts in the bed. I'd have done a body off clean up and some minor banging out of the body. Oh well... ... Funny as a pay toilet in a diarrhea ward! --- * Origin: Bow Tie Racers, Been There, WON That! (1:202/909.13) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 155 OLD CARS Ref: EET00003 Date: 10/24/97 From: MODERATOR Time: 12:10am \/To: ALL (Read 0 times) Subj: Rules of the OLDCARS Echo Rules for FidoNet's OLDCARS Echo *** Revised 3-18-96 *** The following are the rules for the OLDCARS FIDO-NET echo conference. 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Everybody has seen messages posted by people who strike you as complete fools, but you do not have to call a person names in order to give an answer or correct him/her on a point. Hold the flames to a mimimum and try to keep this a fun place. These are all the rules for now. If any other points come up in the future, they will be addressed and added to this list if necessary. If there are any questions or comments about these rules, address them to me, Gerry Calhoun, via net-mail ONLY at 1:2004/200. --- * Origin: PETS R US! 805-946-8345 - Lancaster, CA (1:2004/0) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 155 OLD CARS Ref: EET00004 Date: 10/23/97 From: DON DELLMANN Time: 11:39pm \/To: JACK SCHWENDENER (Read 0 times) Subj: Wanted Chevy '57 While tripping merrily through the mail, Jack Schwendener was overheard JS> Hmmm, well she ain't the one telling the story. I can believe it was a JS> 427 and a Chevy and a custom, but it certainly wasn't a hemi .... JS> (Although sometimes people refered to the canted valve design as a JS> "semi-hemi" .... ) Wasn't the "Semi Hemi" also a name for the Chrysler "Wedge"? Don ... "Today's reckless youth...with their fast cars and rumble seats..." --- * Origin: *YOPS ]I[* 3.1 GIG * RA/FD/FE RADist * Milwaukee, WI (1:154/750)