--------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 155 OLD CARS Ref: EEE00004 Date: 10/09/97 From: DON DELLMANN Time: 11:52pm \/To: WES LEATHEROCK (Read 0 times) Subj: Re: Engine Design While tripping merrily through the mail, Wes Leatherock was overheard WL> Why not just use electric buses, as are still being used in WL> Dayton, are being considered for use in several other cities, and were WL> common in Dallas when I lived there in the 1950s? WL> Surely the 1950s are within the purview of the "OLD CARS" WL> echo. WL> There are also electric "light rail vehicles" (LRVs), i.e. WL> the modern version of the street car, also electric powered. WL> Eliminates both the diesel engines and the tremendously costly WL> (and generally not yet very satisfactory) battery technology, WL> including the costs in trying to build and dispose of batteries. Unfortunately, "Trolley busses" are limited in where thay can go, and the cost of maintaing the "overhead" wiring is generally greater than the savings in fuel costs over conventional Diesel busses (at least in colder climes(, Don ... To every rule there's an exception & vice versa. --- * Origin: *YOPS ]I[* 3.1 GIG * RA/FD/FE RADist * Milwaukee, WI (1:154/750) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 155 OLD CARS Ref: EEF00000 Date: 10/10/97 From: WES LEATHEROCK Time: 06:52pm \/To: DON DELLMANN (Read 0 times) Subj: Re: Engine Design -=> Quoting Don Dellmann to Wes Leatherock <=- DD> Unfortunately, "Trolley busses" are limited in where thay DD> can go, and the cost of maintaing the "overhead" wiring is DD> generally greater than the savings in fuel costs over DD> conventional Diesel busses (at least in colder climes(, The reasons usually cited for using electric vehicles, whether free running or fed from overhead trolley wires, are environmental, and the attitude is usually "hang the cost and the effect on the economy." I will not venture further into politics here. ___ Blue Wave/QWK v2.20 [NR] --- WILDMAIL!/WC v4.12 * Origin: The Hammer BBS (405) 376-0210 Mustang, OK (1:147/1039.0) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 155 OLD CARS Ref: EEF00001 Date: 10/09/97 From: ALEXANDER BILAN Time: 07:40pm \/To: DAY BROWN (Read 0 times) Subj: signal schmatic You where writing to Roy Witt; > The same trick works on the speedometer hi beam indicator; that bulb > too glows a bit dimmer with a diode in the line from the headlite > switch -which i didn't show- and then gets brighter with the feed > from a three prong flasher. Now thats a novel approach to the dash signal indicator. =-) However, I'd be inclinded to utilize a separate flasher indicator light tied to a regular two prong flashers output leg. A question does arrise about using the highbeam indicator; -how do you get it to blink? Your flasher makes/breaks a 12 volt source. The highbeam light is fed 12 volts from the headlight switch. You can't light a light with 12volts on both sides. You need to ground one end or the other. And doing that, you either have a highbeam indicator, or you get a flahser indicator but not both. I do like the blinken method though. =) Alex. | AmiQWK 2.7 - S/N 0261 | ... Wicker Box: What Elmer Fudd wants to do to Snow White. --- OLMS 2.60p.a1+ [EPMBP73M] * Origin: Multiboard * 519-680-2991 * Internet (1:2401/0) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 155 OLD CARS Ref: EEF00002 Date: 10/10/97 From: BILL CLARK Time: 01:18pm \/To: ALEXANDER BILAN (Read 0 times) Subj: ENGINE DESIGN On (08 Oct 97) Alexander Bilan wrote to Pete Snidal... AB> But that takes all the fun factor out of hot rodding. I like my AB> thundering V8 by jeezus. Keeps people out of the way, it usually wakes AB> up the weary pedestrian about to jay-walk into my path. Yep... All tooting the horn does is let them know you see them... -bc- ... This message is brought to you by a Microsoft free system... --- PPoint 2.00 * Origin: Wow... I just had a V8 (1:132/180.1) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 155 OLD CARS Ref: EEG00000 Date: 10/11/97 From: WILLIAM SCOTT LOCKWOOD III Time: 01:09pm \/To: CRAIG HEALY (Read 0 times) Subj: Wanted Chevy '57 >Will keep my eyes open. Now and then a prize shows up for a good >price. Shipping is a trouble, though. I was interested in a '49 >Olds in Minnesota. Car was cheap. Shipping was not. Came out to >about $1,000 no matter which way I tried. And you're a long way >from Rhode Island... Boy, that's the truth. BUT: My Dad isn't that far. He lives in Louisa, Virginia. --- Msged/386 4.10 * Origin: Corpsmans Corner BBS, Oceanside, California (1:202/429@fidonet) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 155 OLD CARS Ref: EEG00001 Date: 10/10/97 From: ALEXANDER BILAN Time: 08:44pm \/To: ROY WITT (Read 0 times) Subj: signal schmatic You where writing to Day Brown; > DB> These diodes have about .6 or .7 volt drop going thru them; with a > DB> 12 volt system, a bulb that gets 11.3 volts is obviously dimmer. As > DB> the flasher sends a charge thru the wire, it gets to the junction > DB> where brake wire goes to the bulb, and the diode blocks the current > DB> from going back up the wire to the bulb on the other side, so it > can > DB> only light the turning side. > > Hmmmmm. What if you used a voltage doubler circuit ahead of the diode > and then > reostat it down to the 12 volts required to keep the bulbs bright, after > the diode? Way too much work. =) Don't forget the system is actually operating around 14 volts when things are working right, a .7 (point seven) volt drop across a diode is insignificant in the overall picture. Alex. check us out;http://www.oldengine.org | AmiQWK 2.7 - S/N 0261 | ... God has a sense of humor...He has to, to have servants like *me*! --- OLMS 2.60p.a1+ [EPMBP73M] * Origin: Multiboard * 519-680-2991 * Internet (1:2401/0) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 155 OLD CARS Ref: EEG00002 Date: 10/10/97 From: CRAIG HEALY Time: 10:27am \/To: WILLIAM SCOTT LOCKWOOD III (Read 0 times) Subj: Wanted Chevy '57 -> ->> Of course, I'm expecting, if I can find a shell I can afford to -> do ->> most of the modifications myself. -> >Will see what's out there. That's an expensive piece to acquire -> >these days, unfortunately. -> -> Which is why I'm looking for just a shell, even a beat to $&*T one th -> have to totally re-work. Will keep my eyes open. Now and then a prize shows up for a good price. Shipping is a trouble, though. I was interested in a '49 Olds in Minnesota. Car was cheap. Shipping was not. Came out to about $1,000 no matter which way I tried. And you're a long way from Rhode Island... -c- --- ViaMAIL!/WC4 v1.30 * Origin: Chowdanet! 20gb Amateur Radio BBS (401-331-5587) (1:323/120) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 155 OLD CARS Ref: EEG00003 Date: 10/11/97 From: ROY J. TELLASON Time: 08:55am \/To: ALL (Read 0 times) Subj: sources for parts? I want to keep this car on the road... Right now I've got a brake hose that I need to put in, but the major problem I'm looking at is some bushings, that apparently are part of what holds a sub-frame to the body -- it's a Dodge Monaco. Auto parts stores have all sorts of other bushings, but not these. The dealer shows them, but the price is total insanity -- there are apparently four sets of these things, in pairs, and while they only want around $14 for the uppers, they want $80 (!) for the lowers. That's *way* too much! Can anybody suggest other places where I might look for such stuff? I don't think that it's gonna pay to look in a junkyard since what's there is likely to be in as bad condition as what I'm trying to replace... email: roy.j.tellason%tanstaaf@frackit.com --- * Origin: TANSTAAFL BBS 717-432-0764 (1:270/615) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 155 OLD CARS Ref: EEG00004 Date: 10/10/97 From: DAY BROWN Time: 08:56pm \/To: ROY WITT (Read 0 times) Subj: signal schmatic On 10-09-97 Roy Witt wrote to Day Brown... Voltage doubler? I thought the idea was to get the bulbs to be off, or on moderately bright, or very bright so you could tell the difference between the brake light being on or the turn signal, or both... at the rear, and on the dash, the high beam would blink brightly with the turn signal, but stay on during the night with the high beam with moderate brightness- which is less distracting as you drive. ___ * OFFLINE 1.58 * The very first word of God: "ooops!" --- Maximus 3.01 * Origin: * After F/X * Rochester N.Y. 716-359-1662 (1:2613/415) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 155 OLD CARS Ref: EEH00000 Date: 10/12/97 From: ROY WITT Time: 07:55am \/To: DAY BROWN (Read 0 times) Subj: signal schmatic 10 Oct 97 20:56, Puleeeeze Brer Day Brown, Dooooon't trow signal schmatic in dat der Briar Patch! DB> On 10-09-97 Roy Witt wrote to Day Brown... DB> Voltage doubler? I thought the idea was to get the bulbs DB> to be off, or on moderately bright, or very bright so you could DB> tell the difference between the brake light being on or the turn DB> signal, or both... at the rear, and on the dash, the high beam DB> would blink brightly with the turn signal, but stay on during the DB> night with the high beam with moderate brightness- which is less DB> distracting as you drive. Did you read the part where I said: REOSTAT: Adjusts a voltage source to a level (add the .7 volts back to the circuit = 13.4v) where the bulbs burn as brightly as they would on 12.7 ts. ... Love cats? They spit on their paws and rub it all over! --- * Origin: Bow Tie Racers, Been There, WON That! (1:202/909.13)