--------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 155 OLD CARS Ref: EDM00006 Date: 09/10/97 From: CHRIS BILTCLIFFE Time: 10:45am \/To: GENE COOK (Read 0 times) Subj: Wiring Problem -=> Quoting Gene Cook to All <=- GC> I am really stumped by this and I was wondering if anyone might have GC> an idea what is going on. I have an old E-type that was flooded GC> several years ago and I am slowly restoring it. GC> To my surprise, there were sparks when I connected the negative GC> terminal to the ground. I checked and there is nothing connecting the GC> positive terminal so I do not have any idea what could be causing the GC> completed circuit. Any ideas? As in, Jaguar E-type? Cool! Ok, by sparks, do you mean just a tiny little blue dot that you can hardly see in daylight, or do you mean 'melt your battery terminals, bright as a magnesium flare' sparks? If it's just a tiny little one, it could be as simple as dirt or water on the battery that conducts very slightly to the battery mounting plate, which'll then go to ground when you connect it. Wash off the outside of the battery, let it dry thoroughly, then try it again. If it's huge sparks, the car is possessed! :) ... NOSTALGIA BUFF: One who finds the past perfect and present tense. --- OLMS 2.60p.a1+ [EPMBP73M] * Origin: Multiboard * 519-438-1066 * Internet * 4GB * (1:2401/0) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 155 OLD CARS Ref: EDM00007 Date: 09/10/97 From: CHRIS BILTCLIFFE Time: 10:45am \/To: SEAN DUNBAR (Read 0 times) Subj: 460 weight -=> Quoting Sean Dunbar to Elvis Hargrove <=- -> Send one of those 460's down here. Hell, send both! :) EH> Sean. You got any IDEA how much those things WEIGH!? SD> I'm guessing around.. oh... 800-900 pounds. Am I close? Try about 1200, +tranny, if they've got one. Not exactly light, ya know? Why do you think they guzzle so much gas??! ;) ... Optimist: Yugo owner with a radar detector. --- OLMS 2.60p.a1+ [EPMBP73M] * Origin: Multiboard * 519-438-1066 * Internet * 4GB * (1:2401/0) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 155 OLD CARS Ref: EDM00008 Date: 09/10/97 From: ALEXANDER BILAN Time: 04:59pm \/To: JACK SCHWENDENER (Read 0 times) Subj: Bolt, Rod Bolt. > Sometimes, sure. But it doesn't bother me to swap Chevy rods around, > I've got plenty. And I always credit the deal what they are worth .... > > I encourage my customers to bring whatever they have and we'll see if we > can make something work out of it. At least he gets a few bucks for some > parts that he would have laying around ..... At least that makes you one of the good ones. =) Reminds me of the guy doing the work on my trucks body, he goes for the all metal, minimal bondo method of work (unlike many places which will mud up things if it falls outside the original estimate). He's done extras outside what we agreed upon if it crops up, and I don't give him grief if he suggests an alternate route after digging through the layers on the truck. My price is higher than originally anticipated, but I've got a practically brand new truck out of it. With luck, I will have it back this weekend. Alex. | AmiQWK 2.7 - S/N 0261 | ... If you don't care where you are, you ain't lost. --- OLMS 2.60p.a1+ [EPMBP73M] * Origin: Multiboard * 519-438-1066 * Internet * 4GB * (1:2401/0) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 155 OLD CARS Ref: EDM00009 Date: 09/10/97 From: ALEXANDER BILAN Time: 04:59pm \/To: JACK SCHWENDENER (Read 0 times) Subj: Mopar or Walk? > but more often you can find somebody to swap. If the shop a guy is > dealing with doesn't want to help out, maybe it's time to find another > shop .... ? No arguement. > There are still plenty of cores like that sitting around, especially > motors that aren't real popular right now (like 327s and 460s), but even > 350s. A lot of times you can pick up a complete 327 for just a few bucks > if you just get it out of somebody's back yard. (I have got plenty of > them that way .... ) Makes me wonder if I should do some exploratory searching on the farm. An old studebaker pickup (50 something) was hauled out by some enthusiast. At the time (before "restorations" where a topic) the 'elders' just considered the Skunk (the trucks name since day 2) as an old peice of crap. Seems it make a decent buck. Alex. check us out;http://www.oldengine.org | AmiQWK 2.7 - S/N 0261 | ... What goes around usually gets dizzy and falls over. --- OLMS 2.60p.a1+ [EPMBP73M] * Origin: Multiboard * 519-438-1066 * Internet * 4GB * (1:2401/0) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 155 OLD CARS Ref: EDM00010 Date: 09/10/97 From: ALEXANDER BILAN Time: 04:59pm \/To: SEAN DUNBAR (Read 0 times) Subj: Mopar or Walk? > EH> Sean. You got any IDEA how much those things WEIGH!? > > I'm guessing around.. oh... 800-900 pounds. Am I close? For at least one of them. =) Alex. | AmiQWK 2.7 - S/N 0261 | ... A word to the wise is often enough to start an argument. --- OLMS 2.60p.a1+ [EPMBP73M] * Origin: Multiboard * 519-438-1066 * Internet * 4GB * (1:2401/0) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 155 OLD CARS Ref: EDM00011 Date: 09/13/97 From: DAY BROWN Time: 10:04pm \/To: JEFF EDMONSON (Read 0 times) Subj: King pin suspension On 09-12-97 Jeff Edmonson wrote to Chris Biltcliffe... JE> z>You mean replacing the king pins, or replacing the coils? My JE> z>brother's got a '75 Ford 1-ton van, which has got basically the JE> > same front suspension as your 'battle wagon' only heavier. JE> > He replaced the king pins, because they were practically siezed JE> > when he got the van, but he's never done anything with the coils. JE> > Does your's need work or something? JE> JE> Or something ;-) Kneel down next to a front wheel; put your thumbs at 12:00, grip the tire really firmly, and with the weight of your chest, heave back, trying to yank the top of the tire outwards. If the pins are shot, you will feel the wheel move a bit, 'thunk'. If you feel that, pop the grease cup, and put your thumb on the end of the axle, touching the flange for the cup, and yank with one hand to *feel* if the bearing is loose. If the bearing is loose, jack the i-beam to get the tire off the ground, and spread a matchead size gob of grease between your thumb and forefinger. Snif. Do it look black and smell burnt? wash in gas, [better yet kerosene or mineral spirits] and repack the bearing. while you got the wheel off, shake the axle; if the end of the spindle goes up/down more than a couple millimeters, I'd think about doing the pins & busings. PS: dont use NAPA; press industrial lubrilite bushings. If that is ok, put each hand at 9:00 and 3:00 and try to shake to see if the tie rod ends have any slack. Oh yeah. back when they wrote the 'MOTOR' manual on these rigs, hardly anyone had a vice grip. skip book, and open the grips way up to grab the OD on the grease cup, and wiggle it free as you like to come out easy. ;^) My experience has been that if the pins are shot, as you turn on a curve, the weight shifts cause the camber on the outside wheel to flip to the outer limit of the bushing play, and the steering gets tricky. but going straight on a smooth road has no problem. If the tie rods are bad, the shimmy usually developed on these old rigs around 45, especially after a pothole; if you can get it up to 60 without the shakes, I would bet you got a tire that is badly out of balance, or as is often the case on radials, out of *round* and thus, also out of balance. ___ * OFFLINE 1.58 * Vegetarians dont make it to the top of the food chain. --- Maximus 3.01 * Origin: * After F/X * Rochester N.Y. 716-359-1662 (1:2613/415) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 155 OLD CARS Ref: EDM00012 Date: 09/15/97 From: JACK SCHWENDENER Time: 10:51am \/To: ALEXANDER BILAN (Read 0 times) Subj: Bolt, Rod Bolt. AB>> I've always told people it they find a good shop they can trust, pay AB>> maybe a little more and keep the guy in business. What does it help AB> I get on a rant of a similar nature when people complain about mechanic AB>service on their vehicles. Like, how hard is it to find an independent that AB>does work you like? I go to one guy exclusively. He gets EVERYTHING. In I have no idea how to find a good mechanic, since I work on my own, but I always tell people to go out in the morning at 7:30 and look for the place with a line of customers outside .... AB>One other thing, yes, you may pay more for some stuff, but you also won't AB>find yourself at his doorstep regularily looking to fix "the next thing that AB>broke unexpectedly". Cuts down on those high towing bills .... AB>Looks like luck is with me, all my colors are on, it looks fantastic. Well Gald to hear it .... Jackson --- * SLMR 2.1 * Speed costs money - How fast can you afford to go? --- WILDMAIL!/WC v4.12 * Origin: ELLIOTT'S BBS ORANGEVALE, CA 916-988-0954 (1:203/721.0) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 155 OLD CARS Ref: EDM00013 Date: 09/15/97 From: JACK SCHWENDENER Time: 09:49am \/To: BILL CLARK (Read 0 times) Subj: Bolt, Rod Bolt. BC> JS> I've actually lost jobs that I thought didn't make sense for the BC> JS> customer, that it would cost too much or not do what he wanted to do BC>Back when I was in the business there were many a day I made money by BC>saying no and staying out of trouble. Absolutely! And more than once I've told a customer (or prospective customer) that I think he would be happier with somebosy else (because I knew I would .... ) ;-) Jackson --- * SLMR 2.1 * Speed costs money - How fast can you afford to go? --- WILDMAIL!/WC v4.12 * Origin: ELLIOTT'S BBS ORANGEVALE, CA 916-988-0954 (1:203/721.0) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 155 OLD CARS Ref: EDM00014 Date: 09/15/97 From: JACK SCHWENDENER Time: 09:52am \/To: DAY BROWN (Read 0 times) Subj: King pin suspension DB>Its been 20 years since I did any kingpins, but as I recall, one DB>oddity was that after you pressed the new bushings, you still DB>hadda *ream* them to match the kingpin. Yup, although I used to align hone them. I got a better fit and longer wear ..... Jackson --- * SLMR 2.1 * Speed costs money - How fast can you afford to go? --- WILDMAIL!/WC v4.12 * Origin: ELLIOTT'S BBS ORANGEVALE, CA 916-988-0954 (1:203/721.0) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 155 OLD CARS Ref: EDM00015 Date: 09/14/97 From: SEAN DUNBAR Time: 01:05pm \/To: ALEXANDER BILAN (Read 0 times) Subj: Re: Alternator AB> version; I'd suggest going with the orginal game plan of retro-ing a AB> 1 wire (or 3 wire, easily done, see the unFAQ) into your truck. The AB> mounting methods you describe are virtually identical to the GM AB> units. As for wiring, use a 4 guage wire between the alternators AB> output (BAT) terminal and the battery side of your starter relay. Thanks Alex. Dunno when I'll do this, but it'll have to be sometime soon :) --- Telegard v3.02/mL * Origin: tos * Carrollton TX * (972) 395-3039 (1:124/6630)