--------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 155 OLD CARS Ref: ECF00000 Date: 08/10/97 From: ROY WITT Time: 09:09am \/To: DAN BAKER (Read 0 times) Subj: Daytona 09 Aug 97 12:44, Puleeeeze Brer Dan Baker, Dooooon't trow Daytona in dat der Briar Patch! DB> RW>> 08 Aug 97 02:32, Puleeeeze Brer Dan Baker, Dooooon't trow Daytona in RW>> dat der Briar Patch! Thats what I figured. What was the GM product RW>> that Don Yenko had a hand in in the early 80's? No idea. Whatever RW>> it was, it didn't have performance as a theme did it? It would have RW>> been mere window dressing on anything they produced then. He built a RW>> turbo-charged Camaro Z-28 in like '78 or 79.. I have pictures of it RW>> somewhere.. I'll bet that was a nitemare...kinda like that Turbo RW>> Trans AM that Pontiac built around then. DB> DB> Anything with a Yenko sticker on it is worth fearing, sorta like DB> seeing a MR. Norm's Rams head on the back of a car.. Mr Norm, Now there's a name I haven't heard in a couple of decades... Yenko built some fast Camaro's in the late 60's and early 70's, but I wasn't aware of any performance from late 70's cars. ... Trust me, I have no interest in your M&Ms.. --- * Origin: Bow Tie Racers, Been There, WON That! (1:202/909.13) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 155 OLD CARS Ref: ECF00001 Date: 08/10/97 From: ROY WITT Time: 09:15am \/To: JOHN PUMMILL (Read 0 times) Subj: Disc Brakes on '64 Impala 09 Aug 97 16:00, Puleeeeze Brer John Pummill, Dooooon't trow Disc Brakes on '64 Impala in dat der Briar Patch! JP> RW>> I try not to. I do machine heads for the guy across the RW>> parking lot. Mainly because we trade labor...I machine his RW>> stuff and he takes care of my cars...That way, I don't get RW>> greasy. JP> JP> You are an evil person. Yes, but I am a clean, evil person..:) RW>> I've got a 400 Pontiac block with a 455 crank in it. JP> JP> KEWL !!! JP> RW>> Although, I had a real automotive machine shop do the work. RW>> To my specs. The crank has the main journals turned down to RW>> fit the 400 block. Had to weld up and turn the thrust main RW>> to fit the 400, which isn't as wide as the 455. Had the RW>> crank re-heat treated, ground and polished. Had the block RW>> decked after I measured it for deck height and found it way RW>> off. It's now got .020 deck height on all 8 pistons. It's RW>> waiting for the day I get time to finish putting it RW>> together. Needs everything besides crank, rods and pistons. JP> JP> If you ever want to get rid of it let me know. I have a great set of JP> heads. The kid I am building the 455 for would love to spend his JP> money on something else to make him faster. I started to build it for my 70 Firebird. That's when I had an employee to do machining, while I played. I'd contemplate selling the 455, but for now, I'm gonna hang onto it. RW>> I could do the machine work, but I'd farm out the welding. JP> JP> All I need is a friend with a welder (have one of those) and a JP> friend with a band saw. (lacking that one) Band saw's are cheap. We've usually got guys from North Carolina with a pickup full of shop equipment running around, where you can buy the whole load for $350...Guess they're pretty hard up if they have to come all the way to CA to sell their goods. JP> Hehehehhe I hear ya. I can put two pieces of metal together. It is JP> permamant. It is not pretty. I tried that once. Didn't look good. When I took it down the street to my buddy, he said "Would you like me to grind off that ugly weld first?" I gave up after that... ... Go ahead, keep honking....I'm reloading!!! --- * Origin: Bow Tie Racers, Been There, WON That! (1:202/909.13) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 155 OLD CARS Ref: ECF00002 Date: 08/10/97 From: ROY WITT Time: 09:26am \/To: JOHN PUMMILL (Read 0 times) Subj: 396 Malibu.. '79! 09 Aug 97 16:00, Puleeeeze Brer John Pummill, Dooooon't trow 396 Malibu.. '79! in dat der Briar Patch! RW>> That's what it says. But, in California, you may not RW>> replace a 305 with a 454. Nor can you replace a 350 with a RW>> 454 or a 305...It HAS to be the same basic engine that was RW>> in the car to begin with. Especially these computerized RW>> cars. The puter in a 305, 350 and a 454/502 are all RW>> different. JP> JP> Change states, yours sucks. I like mine better. Move here and get JP> rich doing auto machine work. Well, it was a lifelong dream as a teenager to come to where all the cool hotrods and custom cars were...When I got here, the climate was a bonus. Houses were even cheap. No smog laws, no high taxes, just a great place to live. I've thought about moving to NC, if I could find work with a NASCAR team as a machinist. I might be able to put up with the weather, but I'd probably still winter in CA. ... Men are like lawn mowers, puttering and full of gas. --- * Origin: Bow Tie Racers, Been There, WON That! (1:202/909.13) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 155 OLD CARS Ref: ECF00003 Date: 08/10/97 From: ROY WITT Time: 09:33am \/To: BILL CLARK (Read 0 times) Subj: 396 Fireo 09 Aug 97 10:18, Puleeeeze Brer Bill Clark, Dooooon't trow 396 Fireo in dat der Briar Patch! BC> On (07 Aug 97) Roy Witt wrote to Rusty Dodson... BC> RW>> So are Corvairs with SB's in the back seat... BC> BC> As are VWs... There's a guy that comes down from L.A. to the local car show every once in a while. His son makes kits to put SB's in these cars. He also makes a kit to put SB's in Jag's and other cars. This guy drives down here in his SB powered 914 Porsche. :) 'Cept for the 914, the smallest vehicle I've seen with a SB is a Harley Davidson. ... A loaf of bread, a jug of wine and St. Bridgete.... --- * Origin: Bow Tie Racers, Been There, WON That! (1:202/909.13) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 155 OLD CARS Ref: ECG00000 Date: 08/04/97 From: JACK SCHWENDENER Time: 08:59am \/To: ROY WITT (Read 0 times) Subj: 396 RW> RW> JS>> (And stock 2 bbl. 265s didn't turn 7000 rpm either .... ) ;-) RW>Tell ya what. Listen to this story and I'll leave you alone. This was The older I get, the faster I was ..... ;-) Jackson --- * SLMR 2.1 * Speed costs money - How fast can you afford to go? --- WILDMAIL!/WC v4.12 * Origin: ELLIOTT'S BBS ORANGEVALE, CA 916-988-0954 (1:203/721.0) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 155 OLD CARS Ref: ECG00001 Date: 08/04/97 From: JACK SCHWENDENER Time: 09:05am \/To: ROY WITT (Read 0 times) Subj: 396 RW> RW>> Not likly. 283's were hard pressed to make it to a 4" bore. That'd RW> JS> Sorry to disagree, but that's just not right. We used to routinely RW> JS> make 301s out of 283s. (You would buy a 327 master kit, the RW> JS> There were hundreds if not thousands of them running all over SoCal RW>That's hard to believe. They were pretty much the generic hotrod motor in the mid- '60s. It was REAL common. I was real rare to have problems with them .... RW> JS> Chevy" class. The entire Junior Fuel class was designed around the RW> JS> 283 punched to 301, although most guys went to a 327 with RW> JS> a 283 crank when they became more available (in the mid- '60s), RW>I'd believe the 327 with 3" crank before I'd believe anyone would punch a RW>283 and take that chance. The destroked 327s were used in a nitro class (unblown). For street use, nobody ever went that route unless they happened to have the parts sitting around (why give up the inches ... ?) We routinely bored 265s to 283s and 283s to 301s. And there were a few guys running welded stroker 400 ince 327 (now that was tight .... ) Jackson --- * SLMR 2.1 * Speed costs money - How fast can you afford to go? --- WILDMAIL!/WC v4.12 * Origin: ELLIOTT'S BBS ORANGEVALE, CA 916-988-0954 (1:203/721.0) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 155 OLD CARS Ref: ECG00002 Date: 08/04/97 From: JACK SCHWENDENER Time: 09:14am \/To: ROY WITT (Read 0 times) Subj: Mopar or Walk? RW> JS> No they weren't 5/16" they were 11/32 (a real orphan). RW>BS, I'm a machinist/tool maker and know what size it was. No, you don't .... (Hint, check an ARP catalog ... ) RW>You're wrong there, Jack. I did it. I built it, I know better. So how did you put both small journal rods and big journal rods on the same crank ... ? Jackson --- * SLMR 2.1 * Speed costs money - How fast can you afford to go? --- WILDMAIL!/WC v4.12 * Origin: ELLIOTT'S BBS ORANGEVALE, CA 916-988-0954 (1:203/721.0) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 155 OLD CARS Ref: ECG00003 Date: 08/11/97 From: DAN BAKER Time: 11:14am \/To: ROY WITT (Read 0 times) Subj: Daytona RW> I'll bet that was a nitemare...kinda like that Turbo Trans AM that RW> Pontiac built around then. Just a little nastier, after all the name YENKO alone stikes fear in the "True" gearheads heart when mentioned, of course the owner of one gets a little gleam in his eye, and a very evil grin on his face.. --- PB 2.16/FE 1.46/IM 2.50 * Origin: Stimpy's Sandbox | Lemoyne, Pa | 717.730.8504 (1:270/722) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 155 OLD CARS Ref: ECG00004 Date: 08/11/97 From: DAN BAKER Time: 11:17am \/To: RUSTY DODSON (Read 0 times) Subj: Daytona RD> A guy at the local shows has a damn slick 79 Z-28 with a turbo and ground RD> effects. Super sharp car esp for that year! I'm pretty sure this was all RD> after market stuff though. I wish I could scan that picture.. Found it.. unfortunately it's a full size poster in a magazine. It's about 2 foot, by 3 foot large.. --- PB 2.16/FE 1.46/IM 2.50 * Origin: Stimpy's Sandbox | Lemoyne, Pa | 717.730.8504 (1:270/722) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 155 OLD CARS Ref: ECG00005 Date: 08/11/97 From: DAN BAKER Time: 11:23am \/To: ROY WITT (Read 0 times) Subj: Daytona RW> Mr Norm, Now there's a name I haven't heard in a couple of decades... RW> Yenko built some fast Camaro's in the late 60's and early 70's, but I RW> wasn't aware of any performance from late 70's cars. He built Yenko Nova's in the Early to Mid 70's, I think he also built a car on the Monza platform. Somewhere I recall a Vega also getting the Yenko treatment. He also built Yenko Chevelle's in the Late 60's early 70's --- PB 2.16/FE 1.46/IM 2.50 * Origin: Stimpy's Sandbox | Lemoyne, Pa | 717.730.8504 (1:270/722)