--------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 155 OLD CARS Ref: DD500002 Date: 09/04/96 From: BILL CLARK Time: 05:30pm \/To: JOHN DEMOTT (Read 3 times) Subj: Chevrolet SS On (30 Aug 96) John DeMott wrote to Mike Mueller... JD> The 1965 Chevelle SS-396 was the first true Chevy muscle car. With a JD> big Holley, 11:1 compression and hi-lift cam, it was one mean machine JD> that could finally out shine the Pontiac GTO which started the muscle JD> car era. What do you call a '57 chev with Duntov cam, dual 4's, 512's, close ratio box, etc... or perhaps a blown '57 ford or studebaker... Chopped Liver. These were all factory options... Maybe I don't understand what the world means by "muscle car" as these were around before the goats were a gleam in somebodies eye. -bc- bclark@rochgte.fidonet.org --- PPoint 2.00 * Origin: Wow... I just had a V8! (1:132/180.1) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 155 OLD CARS Ref: DD500003 Date: 09/05/96 From: MICHAEL JONES Time: 12:45am \/To: JOHN L. CRANE (Read 3 times) Subj: 350 vs. 400 * In a message originally to Mike Eyre, John L. Crane said: > ME> Anyone wanna take a swing at this one? > Sure... 383 it... that way you get a little of both. ;)John > --- > . SLMR 2.1a . Nothing is so smiple that it can't get screwed > up. > * Origin: Wheels BBS - Beast and a half! (1:289/86) but still you must rev the 383 a little higher to equal power of a 400 --- FMail/386 1.0g * Origin: People in Union City, CA sure do love their old cars! =) (1:215/201) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 155 OLD CARS Ref: DD500004 Date: 09/05/96 From: MICHAEL JONES Time: 12:58am \/To: ALEXANDER BILAN (Read 3 times) Subj: Engines > > of the displacment (harmonic balancer on the 260). I know intake > > manifolds > > are split into small block/big blocl (330-403 and 400-455 respectively) > Then we can use the intake manifold as our deciding factor > for big > block/small block, regardless of what displacement it may > have. > No more late night arguments with people wether its a big > block or a small > block, just figure out what intake manifold you have and > there ya go. Case > closed. =) I even got part numbers (edelbrock part #s from their '96 catalog) Performer olds 350 (330-403 V8) #3711 (have that one tatooed on brain) Performer Olds 350 RPM (330-403 V8) #7111 (has extra flange above the runner for use with 455 heads!) Performer Olds 455 (400-455 V8) #2151 Torker 455 (400-455 V8) #2730 too bad ony #3711 is the only manifold out of all of these that can be called a 'replacment' manifold (Damn california C.A.R.B.) --- FMail/386 1.0g * Origin: People in Union City, CA sure do love their old cars! =) (1:215/201) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 155 OLD CARS Ref: DD500005 Date: 09/05/96 From: MICHAEL JONES Time: 01:00am \/To: KEN THOMPSON (Read 3 times) Subj: 305/350 > It's always been the case on the engines I've observed that > bigger cubes means more fuel consumption, unless the bigger > engine was mated to a manual transmission or had a big time > advantage on power to wieght ratio. For this reason I always > snicker when someone tells me their Chevy 350 makes 25 mpg on > the road. It can get 25 mpg probably if it had a overdrive tranny, AND a auxillary overdrive tranny, a 2.41 gearset, and a nice flat road. but probably not --- FMail/386 1.0g * Origin: People in Union City, CA sure do love their old cars! =) (1:215/201) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 155 OLD CARS Ref: DD500006 Date: 09/05/96 From: MICHAEL JONES Time: 01:02am \/To: GERRY CALHOUN (Read 3 times) Subj: Oldsmobile Cylinder Heads > Hi Micheal, > MJ> so I try to ID my heads (small > MJ> block olds, 350, stock in a '78 full size RWD) and the 'ID' code on > MJ> my head is an 'A'! Now I am really confused.. > Are you sure you even have an Olds engine? How about posting > the fifth charactor of your VIN and I will check. In '78 Olds > used 350's from Buick, Chev and Olds. I have not seen about > using a Ponitac though. Of course maybe Pontiac had extra > room in thier casting plant and made the castings for the > Olds heads. I sure Olds was busy making the 350 diesel for > every other division that year so maybe they farmed the gas > 350 head casting out. I am sure I have a olds engine.. i've had to replace the water pump on the thing and the mounting is different than the Buick, chebby, or pontiac.. and my manifold looks like any other 330-403 olds manifold i've seen on other oldsmobiles --- FMail/386 1.0g * Origin: People in Union City, CA sure do love their old cars! =) (1:215/201) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 155 OLD CARS Ref: DDA00000 Date: 09/04/96 From: JIM MATHER Time: 07:16pm \/To: RICHARD DOHERTY (Read 4 times) Subj: Old Cars Hi. RD> Ontario plants not the Turbo-Fire 197 hp version out of Detroit) RD> and for the higher levels of pontiac's they had the (chevy, all chevy) RD> 350, 327 or the Big block (VERY rare option) 427. OOps, forgot the SD 396! Where are you from? ..Jim. ... nfx v2.0 [C0000] Member, Canadian Classic Chevelle/Beaumont Club --- QScan/PCB v1.17b / 01-0313 * Origin: Encode Online Orillia,Ont.705-327-7629 (1:252/305) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 155 OLD CARS Ref: DDA00001 Date: 09/04/96 From: LORI HARVEY Time: 08:32pm \/To: KEN THOMPSON (Read 4 times) Subj: Re: Availability of trim p Do you have a Western Auto or a Parts America near by? They might have what you are looking for. --- MsgToss 2.0c (r) * Origin: The Proteus BBS - V.34+\8CDS\OS2v3 - 1.515.432.1965 (1:290/118) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 155 OLD CARS Ref: DDA00002 Date: 09/04/96 From: SEAN BUTLER Time: 08:01pm \/To: MIKE MUELLER (Read 4 times) Subj: Re:Old Cars MM>-> My uncle told me about Hemmings motor news. I've never seen it on the WM>-> newstand. Anyone have suggestions on what store would have one? WM>-> Mike Mueller Any good book store will have it in the magazine section, barnes & noble, waldon, b. dalton. etc....] Sean --- OLX 2.2 I'm in shape ... round's a shape isn't it? --- WILDMAIL!/WC v4.12 * Origin: Brewer Field 206-792-5284 FidoNet Bremerton, Wa. (1:350/47.0) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 155 OLD CARS Ref: DDA00003 Date: 09/05/96 From: ELVIS HARGROVE Time: 11:31am \/To: BILL CLARK (Read 4 times) Subj: Chevrolet SS -> What do you call a '57 chev with Duntov cam, dual 4's, 512's, close -> ratio box, etc... or perhaps a blown '57 ford or studebaker... -> Chopped Liver. But Bill, there was some sophistication involved with these options. The 396 SS's were just plain brute force and awkwardness. (AND the goats.) In my opinion the much maligned 348 was the real start of the "Muscle cars" which to me meant raw torque and neck snapping punch off the line. I had both, the 348 and the 396 SS and I LOVED 'em! (I also had souped up small displacement Studebakers, (2 13/16" Stroke) with factory Duntovs that would scare the hell out of Chevy 265's and 283's but they were not Muscle cars, they were 'sprinters'.) I'm now sadly reduced to a 3.8 liter forked six that won't get out of its own way, but lets just say my priorities have changed.... ^..^ --- FidoPCB v1.5 beta-'j' * Origin: BOO! Board Of Occult, Rio Grande Valley Texas (1:397/6) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 155 OLD CARS Ref: DDA00004 Date: 09/04/96 From: PETER K. HANSMA Time: 10:50pm \/To: MIKE MCCANN (Read 4 times) Subj: New Crossing Penalti *Quoting Mike Mccann @1:116/305 Vi to Ken Freeman @{echomail}*4* MM@V> I will shortly post the text of the new CSXT Police commission cards, MM@V> which explains there officers have interstate authority to enforce MM@V> laws, etc of ALL political subdivisions in which they have property or MM@V> business interests. Add to that fully marked emergency vehicles and I MM@V> would predict even more enforcement activities. Trooper on Train and MM@V> Operation Lifesaver and near miss programs will continue NS has a handout like that now. ... Norfolk Southern milepost...156.7.................No Defects. ___ Blue Wave/DOS v2.21 [NR] --- VFIDO 7.13 * Origin: The Plantation (1:151/503)